Sign of the Times.

[Smudge]

Must say I am very disappointed with the turnout at Guildfords FREE DAY in AID OF HELP FOR HEROES,think the crowd was 121,but even more disappointing was the amount raised under £300.That equates to about £2.50 per head.This beggars the Question,do the people of Guildford and surrounding areas,deserve a First Class Club in their area,that supports a very worthwhile cause.Maybe next time charge them to come in,£6 and £3 that way by even getting 80 people,you would raise £400,and the Club could donate that.

[MiddleMan]

Must say I am very disappointed with the turnout at Guildfords FREE DAY in AID OF HELP FOR HEROES,think the crowd was 121,but even more disappointing was the amount raised under £300.That equates to about £2.50 per head.This beggars the Question,do the people of Guildford and surrounding areas,deserve a First Class Club in their area,that supports a very worthwhile cause.Maybe next time charge them to come in,£6 and £3 that way by even getting 80 people,you would raise £400,and the Club could donate that.

 

 

My wife & I were at the Guildford City v Sandhurst Town game and I commented on the very low turnout. I would be surprised if there were more that 80/90 actual spectators. We donated £12, so based on the published attendance this must mean a number of spectators probably paid nothing. I have no axes to grind, but must say surprised the Arena has achieved a step 4 grading, given the general standard of facilities. There is zero atmosphere at this venue which does not help.

[Krooner]

Difficult one to do. Where did the guys from Guildford expect to get the extra people from ? Where did they market it ? Did they engage with the local community ?

 

I am not having a go am just interested as to what Guildford put into it.

[Green_Fingers]

Difficult one to do. Where did the guys from Guildford expect to get the extra people from ? Where did they market it ? Did they engage with the local community ?

 

I am not having a go am just interested as to what Guildford put into it.

 

Now if only they had advertised it as much as your 10k fun run yesterday Kroons. Great time incidentally

[Smudge]

Never heard it on Eagle Radio,10K in under 1 hr impressive Kroons.That fitness training was all worthwhile.Marathons next will be the order of the day,not the ones you eat (SNICKERS),the London Variety.Hope you raised loads,and wore a hat, it was very hot yesterday .Can cause SUNBURN to exposed skin.Oh and plasters over your nipples.

Edited April 11, 2011 by Smudge

[NICE GUY]

Must say I am very disappointed with the turnout at Guildfords FREE DAY in AID OF HELP FOR HEROES,think the crowd was 121,but even more disappointing was the amount raised under £300.That equates to about £2.50 per head.This beggars the Question,do the people of Guildford and surrounding areas,deserve a First Class Club in their area,that supports a very worthwhile cause.Maybe next time charge them to come in,£6 and £3 that way by even getting 80 people,you would raise £400,and the Club could donate that.

 

 

My wife & I were at the Guildford City v Sandhurst Town game and I commented on the very low turnout. I would be surprised if there were more that 80/90 actual spectators. We donated £12, so based on the published attendance this must mean a number of spectators probably paid nothing. I have no axes to grind, but must say surprised the Arena has achieved a step 4 grading, given the general standard of facilities. There is zero atmosphere at this venue which does not help.

 

WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED MIDDLEMAN THAT THE SPECTRUM ARENA HAS ACHIEVED STEP 4 GRADING ? ANYTHING SPECIAL OR JUST IN GENERAL ?

 

DID YOU GO INTO THEIR PORTACABIN CLUBHOUSE AND WHATS IT LIKE ?

 

EXACTLY..NO ATMOSPHERE MIDDLEMAN, THATS WHY I DON'T LIKE GOING THERE AND CROYDON ARENA SO SOUL;ESS. THATS PROBABLY WHY GUILDFORD DON'T GET THAT MANY SUPPORTERS WHEREAS AT ANOTHER VENUE I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULD GET A LARGER SUPPORT ?

[Medic]

Must say I am very disappointed with the turnout at Guildfords FREE DAY in AID OF HELP FOR HEROES,think the crowd was 121,but even more disappointing was the amount raised under £300.That equates to about £2.50 per head.This beggars the Question,do the people of Guildford and surrounding areas,deserve a First Class Club in their area,that supports a very worthwhile cause.Maybe next time charge them to come in,£6 and £3 that way by even getting 80 people,you would raise £400,and the Club could donate that.

 

 

My wife & I were at the Guildford City v Sandhurst Town game and I commented on the very low turnout. I would be surprised if there were more that 80/90 actual spectators. We donated £12, so based on the published attendance this must mean a number of spectators probably paid nothing. I have no axes to grind, but must say surprised the Arena has achieved a step 4 grading, given the general standard of facilities. There is zero atmosphere at this venue which does not help.

 

WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED MIDDLEMAN THAT THE SPECTRUM ARENA HAS ACHIEVED STEP 4 GRADING ? ANYTHING SPECIAL OR JUST IN GENERAL ?

 

DID YOU GO INTO THEIR PORTACABIN CLUBHOUSE AND WHATS IT LIKE ?

 

EXACTLY..NO ATMOSPHERE MIDDLEMAN, THATS WHY I DON'T LIKE GOING THERE AND CROYDON ARENA SO SOUL;ESS. THATS PROBABLY WHY GUILDFORD DON'T GET THAT MANY SUPPORTERS WHEREAS AT ANOTHER VENUE I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULD GET A LARGER SUPPORT ?

 

I would think that a town of Guildford size (around 67,000) would and should expect more that 121 people turning up to the match on Saturday. I would have expected them to advertise in the Surrey Ad (local paper) and maybe have contacted the local schools (at least 4 or 5 within 2 miles of the Spectrum), also maybe match day posters in the Spectrum? Maybe they did all this, and this shows the lack of interest by the general population of Guildford, which is a shame!!

Edited April 11, 2011 by Medic

[SPIRIT OF NICE GUY]

hi i echo all your comments the match was well advertised in local press and radio ,the surrey ad have been brilliant in giving the guildford public the run down over the weeks on the spectrun arena improvements ,i must admit my first city game was the free one last season at home to north greenford ,as a armchair follower of the club in its different guises over the years i decided to get of my [****!!****] and support my local club (ive only missed 4 games this season ) my point is a few hundered more footy fans like me would be great for the club ! yes the town does deserve a first class club ,maybe a bit more publicity would help weve had some good turnouts in the vase and fa cup games this season ! but as smudge has said maybe it is a sign of the times ive noticed some step 4 gates are no better then the ccl this season .

[VPCTFC]

maybe it is a sign of the times ive noticed some step 4 gates are no better then the ccl this season .

 

And yet some step 5 clubs are seeing massive increase and are getting hundreds in a week. St Neots v Kings Lynn had 1500 at the game, the return match next week is expected to have a 2000 attendance and that's at the most expensive step 5 club in the country (£8 for an adult).

If only we knew the magic formula of how to make our clubs fashionable.

Loads of clubs have tried all sorts to get the punters in. It works for some teams, it doesn't work for others. Mansfield Town tried a 'pay what you like' day earlier this season. The attendance was up by thousands on their average but the gate receipts were down. It was reported some people only paid 25p instead of the usual £17 or whatever they charge. Even with all the stuff those extra people may have bought inside the ground it clearly didn't work as they've not repeated the exercise although they are having a £5 entry day soon.

And of course Conference crowds are at an all time high and crowds in the top four divisions are at historical highs at the moment. And people say that level of football is overpriced. If the likes of Arsenal can sell 60000 tickets for every game at their prices and have 40000 people on their season ticket waiting list then that's clearly not true.

I'd like to blame the culture of watching football from an armchair or down the pub as the reason people won't go and watch their local teams at lower levels any more but I'm not sure that's the only reason.

Edited April 12, 2011 by VPCTFC

[Smudge]

V.P.C.T.F.C.,Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts,or maybe my days of watching Crystal Palace and Dulwich back in the 60's were just a dream.Yeah record (lowest) attendances broken every week in Div 4 now.Bet even,the likes of Luton ,Mansfield,in the Conference are pleased with their 6000 crowds they get now,rather than their 15/20,000 they used to get.

[Regan]

Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts

 

Non-league football is getting more coverage now than it probably ever has, but I say that as someone brought up on the Premier League etc.

 

Here's a statistic for you; Guildford City's average home attendance is up by over 30% on last season. That is thanks largely to some big crowds for the FA Cup and Vase, but bear in mind that we had a few 100+ attendances last season as well.

[Medic]

V.P.C.T.F.C.,Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts,or maybe my days of watching Crystal Palace and Dulwich back in the 60's were just a dream.Yeah record (lowest) attendances broken every week in Div 4 now.Bet even,the likes of Luton ,Mansfield,in the Conference are pleased with their 6000 crowds they get now,rather than their 15/20,000 they used to get.

 

I understand what your saying Smudge, but if Luton and Mansfield are getting crowds at 6000 a week, at £15iish a ticket that's £90k per game, so no wonder they are happy. It would be interesting to see who the best supported team in the CCL are in terms of crowds per week. I know it's on the CCL website but is that up to date?

[The KnapMeister]

V.P.C.T.F.C.,Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts,or maybe my days of watching Crystal Palace and Dulwich back in the 60's were just a dream.Yeah record (lowest) attendances broken every week in Div 4 now.Bet even,the likes of Luton ,Mansfield,in the Conference are pleased with their 6000 crowds they get now,rather than their 15/20,000 they used to get.

 

I understand what your saying Smudge, but if Luton and Mansfield are getting crowds at 6000 a week, at £15iish a ticket that's £90k per game, so no wonder they are happy. It would be interesting to see who the best supported team in the CCL are in terms of crowds per week. I know it's on the CCL website but is that up to date?

 

I can give you a full run down of the average gates up to date, when I get home tonight. Off the top of my head in Div 1, Bedfont Sports are averaging about 65 per game, Knaphill are fifth in the table averaging about 49. Farnham Town are well down the table, Westfield are in the top 6 along with Warlingham (I think).

Feltham, Hayes Gate & FNE are all towards to bottom at around 20. I'll post full details tonight and on the Prem as well.

[NICE GUY]

V.P.C.T.F.C.,Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts,or maybe my days of watching Crystal Palace and Dulwich back in the 60's were just a dream.Yeah record (lowest) attendances broken every week in Div 4 now.Bet even,the likes of Luton ,Mansfield,in the Conference are pleased with their 6000 crowds they get now,rather than their 15/20,000 they used to get.

 

I understand what your saying Smudge, but if Luton and Mansfield are getting crowds at 6000 a week, at £15iish a ticket that's £90k per game, so no wonder they are happy.

It would be interesting to see who the best supported team in the CCL are in terms of crowds per week. I know it's on the CCL website but is that up to date?

 

THINK YOU WILL FIND ITS CHERTSEY MEDIC

[Medic]

V.P.C.T.F.C.,Crowds are at historical highs at the moment,what a load of nonsense.Prove that statement with facts,or maybe my days of watching Crystal Palace and Dulwich back in the 60's were just a dream.Yeah record (lowest) attendances broken every week in Div 4 now.Bet even,the likes of Luton ,Mansfield,in the Conference are pleased with their 6000 crowds they get now,rather than their 15/20,000 they used to get.

 

I understand what your saying Smudge, but if Luton and Mansfield are getting crowds at 6000 a week, at £15iish a ticket that's £90k per game, so no wonder they are happy.

It would be interesting to see who the best supported team in the CCL are in terms of crowds per week. I know it's on the CCL website but is that up to date?

 

THINK YOU WILL FIND ITS CHERTSEY MEDIC

 

Think you maybe right NG, one things for sure it's not Cove!

[The KnapMeister]

As promised Average Gates for Div 1

 

Bedfont Sports 66.2

Warlingham 57.3

Westfield 51.4

South Park 51.3

Knaphill 49.5

Worcester Park 45.4

Eversley 44.8

Chobham 42.8

Hartley Wintney 40.5

CB Hounslow 40.1

Frimley Green 39.7

Farnham Town 38.2

Staines Lammas 35.9

FNE 35.1

Sheerwater 32.4

Cobham 31.5

Farleigh Rovers 26.5

Feltham 21.4

Hayes Gate 21.3

 

Best Gates:

 

1 WestfieldvSheerwater 175 19/11/2010

2WarlinghamvFarleigh Rovers 154 18/03/2011

3Bedfont SportsvHayes Gate 144 30/08/2010

4EversleyvFarnborough NE 108 30/08/2010

5KnaphillvEversley 97 06/04/2011

 

Lowest Gates:

 

1Hayes GatevBedfont Sports 3 26/03/2011

2Hayes GatevWorcester Park 4 12/03/2011

3Farleigh RoversvBedfont Sports 6 11/12/2010

3FarnboroughNEvFarleighRovers 6 05/02/2011

 

I'll do the Prem shortly

Edited April 12, 2011 by The KnapMeister

[The KnapMeister]

Prem Average Gates: (Sorry not in order)

 

Ash United 74

Badshot Lea 52

Banstead Athletic 48

Bookham 44

Camberley Town 100

Chertsey Town 131

C & H Utd 79

C W Utd 58

Cove 28

Croydon 41

Dorking 65

Egham Town 75

E & E 53

Guildford City 68

Hanworth Villa 93

Horley Town 58

MVSCR 31

Molesey 76

RPV 51

Sandhurst Town 57

Wembley 43

[johnnojudo]

Nice to see Cove winning something again this season.

2 seasons ago it was the Southern Combination cup, last season was the league cup and this season it is the worst supported award!

[Wattsy]

As promised Average Gates for Div 1

 

Bedfont Sports 66.2

Warlingham 57.3

Westfield 51.4

South Park 51.3

Knaphill 49.5

Worcester Park 45.4

Eversley 44.8

Chobham 42.8

Hartley Wintney 40.5

CB Hounslow 40.1

Frimley Green 39.7

Farnham Town 38.2

Staines Lammas 35.9

FNE 35.1

Sheerwater 32.4

Cobham 31.5

Farleigh Rovers 26.5

Feltham 21.4

Hayes Gate 21.3

 

Best Gates:

 

1 WestfieldvSheerwater 175 19/11/2010

2WarlinghamvFarleigh Rovers 154 18/03/2011

3Bedfont SportsvHayes Gate 144 30/08/2010

4EversleyvFarnborough NE 108 30/08/2010

5KnaphillvEversley 97 06/04/2011

 

Lowest Gates:

 

1Hayes GatevBedfont Sports 3 26/03/2011

2Hayes GatevWorcester Park 4 12/03/2011

3Farleigh RoversvBedfont Sports 6 11/12/2010

3FarnboroughNEvFarleighRovers 6 05/02/2011

 

I'll do the Prem shortly

Interesting stats there! I do find it hard to believe that those lowest attendances are correct. Bedfont take a decent support with them and their game against Hayes and being a pretty local game, well 3 people is staggering. As is the Farleigh V Bedfont match, two teams in the top 7 pretty much through the season will obviously be a decent game and again attract more than 6!

 

I know these can't be 'officially' proved but if clubs are inputting wrong false attendances then surely make them believable haha.

 

Thanks for posting Knapmeister

[The KnapMeister]

As promised Average Gates for Div 1

 

Bedfont Sports 66.2

Warlingham 57.3

Westfield 51.4

South Park 51.3

Knaphill 49.5

Worcester Park 45.4

Eversley 44.8

Chobham 42.8

Hartley Wintney 40.5

CB Hounslow 40.1

Frimley Green 39.7

Farnham Town 38.2

Staines Lammas 35.9

FNE 35.1

Sheerwater 32.4

Cobham 31.5

Farleigh Rovers 26.5

Feltham 21.4

Hayes Gate 21.3

 

Best Gates:

 

1 WestfieldvSheerwater 175 19/11/2010

2WarlinghamvFarleigh Rovers 154 18/03/2011

3Bedfont SportsvHayes Gate 144 30/08/2010

4EversleyvFarnborough NE 108 30/08/2010

5KnaphillvEversley 97 06/04/2011

 

Lowest Gates:

 

1Hayes GatevBedfont Sports 3 26/03/2011

2Hayes GatevWorcester Park 4 12/03/2011

3Farleigh RoversvBedfont Sports 6 11/12/2010

3FarnboroughNEvFarleighRovers 6 05/02/2011

 

I'll do the Prem shortly

Interesting stats there! I do find it hard to believe that those lowest attendances are correct. Bedfont take a decent support with them and their game against Hayes and being a pretty local game, well 3 people is staggering. As is the Farleigh V Bedfont match, two teams in the top 7 pretty much through the season will obviously be a decent game and again attract more than 6!

 

I know these can't be 'officially' proved but if clubs are inputting wrong false attendances then surely make them believable haha.

 

Thanks for posting Knapmeister

 

 

That's alright Wattsy, all these figures are taking from the CCL weekly bulletins.