08/03 half times and full times

[Terrence Collina]

Camberley Town 3 Sandhurst Town 0.

The ref tonight was a lot better than the ref we had on Saturday! At least tonight's ref was confident in his decisions unlike the ditherer we had last game. He got some things wrong - some horrendously wrong but I've never known a Sandhurst side to whinge as much as this lot did tonight. Funnily enough, after another whinge at the ref all their players were strangely silent when two of their players did hopeless passes that went nowhere near any of their players but went sailing out for throw ins instead during the second half.

As for the penalty - well, that was shocking. It was dubious in the first place, we had a much better call a bit later that wasn't given but the ref really did make a howler. If the game had finished 0-0 we'd be going up the wall now. As it is, he's got off with it.

Bear in mind the FA, in their infinite wisdom, have failed to mention that goalnets are needed in anything other than FA competitions. They're not a requirement in non-league football from steps 1 to 6. Don't believe me? Check the rules.

Joe Paris took the penalty which clearly went in but the ball went through a hole in the net, hit the wall behind the goal and came back out again. TRS filmed a similar incident a few weeks back. The stand-side lino couldn't have possibly known which side of the post the ball passed but the ref was standing on the 18 yard line on that side of the goal. How he didn't see it as a goal is anyone's guess.

First thing - CTFC will be buying new goal nets this week.

Second thing - lino's never really check these things properly. They just have a cursory look and that's it. It's alleged the lino did mention to the ref there was a hole before the game but the ref didn't tell the club so we didn't know. This is just hearsay though

Third thing - as I've already said - goal nets aren't a requirement in the laws or rules so refs should position themselves accordingly and not assume things based on who shouts the loudest.

 

Anyway, good to see Jock is well and I still hope Sandhurst get to the League Cup final.

 

Before I start, Camberley fully deserved the win and I am not blaming the referee for the defeat, but his incompetence did not help the cause. The way we played for most of the game last night, we would have lost anyway, regardless of who was incharge.

 

The game started even, and Sandhurst were pleased with the start but then after 20 mins the game turned into a fiasco. Dubious penatly awarded for a tackle just inside the box under the nose of the assistant and I don't think the referee was best placed to award it. As VP has said, the penalty was converted, but because Camberley have been spending money on the new ground proposal rather than maintaining the equipment in the current ground, the ball came back out and a goal kick was awarded, both sets of players had started to set themselves up for the restart. Cue 6 or 7 Camberley players rounding the referee. Unbelivably, the ref then went to speak to his Assistant and both concured that they we both looking for encroachment (ref - players, assistant - goalie) and neither were looking to see if the ball went in. The ref then decides that the net needs reparing - if the ball went wide then why check? 5 minute hold up for that.

 

Camberley then had a far better penalty shout waved away before they took the lead.

 

The next crazy decision was when the Cambo right winger started chasing after a ball down the right wing. Our left back got there just in front of the winger who then shoved our left back to get past. The assistant started waving his flag to award a free kick to Sandhurst, but as he had is flag in the wrong hand, the ref thought he was awarding a free kick to Cambo and played the advantage before coming back to caution our full back to the bewilderment of most.

 

Later on, one of the Sandhurst players went down with a head injury and the referee stopped the game. He restarted with a drop ball and the Cambo player on it said he would kick it back to our goalie but his teammate said 'we were in possesion so keep it'. So all of a sudden from an unchallenged drop ball, the referee just went 'ok' and droped it on the foot of the Cambo player who went to dribble forward. Our CB came in, swung a leg for the ball, got a touch on the ball and missed the player with the follow through of his swing (not attempting to get the play, just the natural action), ref awards a free kick and cautions our CB.

 

Camberley were equally fustrated by the referee when they tried to take quick free kicks because the ball was 3mm from where it should have been.

 

I think before the half closed, both sides had another player cautioned when the award of the free kick was dubious.

 

Into the second half and Camberley went two goals in front from a corner that Sandhurst fell asleep for.

 

When then had out Right Back sent off for two yellow cards, the first for a foul, fine, the second again for a foul, but this time two players competed for a loose ball, the Cambo player got there milliseconds before our RB, a coming together and at worst a freekick only if it warranted one. If Rooney last week was just a coming together, then this could only be described as a tickle. Anyway, the referee couldn't have got his red card out any quicker.

 

It may have been at this time that our other CB picked up a yellow for dissent (no excuse for dissent cautions in my mind).

 

The third goal had a huge suspician of off-side. Cambro player tried to chip the goalie who did well to tip the ball onto the bar and the rebound fell at the feet of the cambo striker with no-one around him and put the ball in. To most in the ground it looked like he was offside from the original shot. Our CB who was cautioned in the first half gave too much verbal and got himself a second yellow card (again, no excuse for it, but I will say that if he is cautioning for dissent, he shold have showed a couple to the Cambo players that surrounded him after the goal from the penalty was not given).

 

Camberley had one of their strikers cautioned for kicking the ball away which was even more harsh than Van Persie's last night.

 

The final silliness from the referee that I can remeber is late on we were awarded a free kick which the referee said in your half for. The ball was placed just inside our half and then the ref shouted come on I said inside your half - the ball was - and then made us move the ball back 6 yards. Something trivial, but given how bad he was, the smallest thing was winding Sandhurst up (again, should not be affected by it, but human nature dictates it sometimes). If he had said 6 yards inside your half, everyone knew where they were standing.

 

The referee was being assessed and it would have been interesting to find out what he made of the performance, although why the assessor decided to sit in the stand for the whole of the game, rather than wander around the ground as 99.9% of other assesors do, is a mystery. The referee was doing lines on division one 3 or 4 seasons ago, so he has obvously been fast-tracked and again this was an example of the Surrey FA pushing someone who is not quite ready yet. The league should also take some flack here for appointing a new-ish referee for a local derby. You won't see the FA give Stuart Attwell or even Michael Oliver (who is far better than Attwell) a Merseyside derby just yet.

 

Those who know me know that I rarely rant on about referees (more the assistants) and in fact I am normally the one explaining to my team why the referee gave the decision (ask Surrey Legend), but this guy last night was hopeless. It may have just been a bad game for him that everyone has, but I know both teams are writing a letter to go with the low marks.

 

As I started, Camberley deserved the win, supported by the fact that we only made the Camberley goalkeeper work once and that was a shot straight at him. Other than that the closest we came to scoring was a shot late on which went just over. The penalty incident spured Cambo on and seemed to knock the wind out of our sails. Some of the cautions were not needed, but if decisions go against you, you cannot keep moaning at the refs because they will start cautioning and they are cheap needless ones that end up causing problems for your team-mates.

[inbetweener]

have to agree jurgs farnham had quite a bit of possesion in good areas in the 2nd half but wasted it with long shots or choosing the wrong option , but either team could have nicked it

[Strawman]

what has happened to badshot lea ?

 

 

SIMPLE............ EXACTLY, CAN'T WIN THE LEAGUE AND CAN'T GET RELEGATED SO NOTHING TO PLAY FOR...............RINGS A BELL ???

 

BUT OF COURSE I'M WRONG !!!

 

Of course you are wrong!

 

You are being disrespectful to a much improved Hanworth Villa side who also can't win the League or get relegated - how do you explain their immense desire to win

 

NO I'M NOT GF

 

ITS BECAUSE BADSHOT LEA CAN'T BE ASKED. LOOK AT THEIR RECENT RESULTS AFTER BACK-TO-BACK DEFEATS BY CHERTSEY AND GUILDFORD THE FOLLOWING WEEK WHICH THEY HAD TO WIN, THESE LOSSES FINALISED THEIR TITLE HOPES !

 

HANWORTH VILLA ON THE OTHER HAND ARE ON A GOOD RUN ALBEIT BEATING LOWER OPPOSITION SINCE THEIR DEFEAT OF CHERTSEY, BUT DO HAVE MOMENTUM AT THE MOMENT..... SO ARE THEY PUSHING TO GET 4TH PLACE SO TO GET INTO THE 1ST ROUND PROPER OF THE VASE ?

 

BADSHOT LEA'S PLAYERS ATTITUDE COMES TO MIND ! TRUST ME GF THIS HAPPENS IN FOOTBALL...............

 

 

Call me a radical if you want but maybe Hanworth were just better.

 

You could do worse than watching them one day soon, they have improved a great deal in the 2nd hald of the season. As many people on this forum can testify to.

[Green_Fingers]

what has happened to badshot lea ?

 

 

SIMPLE............ EXACTLY, CAN'T WIN THE LEAGUE AND CAN'T GET RELEGATED SO NOTHING TO PLAY FOR...............RINGS A BELL ???

 

BUT OF COURSE I'M WRONG !!!

 

Of course you are wrong!

 

You are being disrespectful to a much improved Hanworth Villa side who also can't win the League or get relegated - how do you explain their immense desire to win

 

NO I'M NOT GF

 

ITS BECAUSE BADSHOT LEA CAN'T BE ASKED. LOOK AT THEIR RECENT RESULTS AFTER BACK-TO-BACK DEFEATS BY CHERTSEY AND GUILDFORD THE FOLLOWING WEEK WHICH THEY HAD TO WIN, THESE LOSSES FINALISED THEIR TITLE HOPES !

 

HANWORTH VILLA ON THE OTHER HAND ARE ON A GOOD RUN ALBEIT BEATING LOWER OPPOSITION SINCE THEIR DEFEAT OF CHERTSEY, BUT DO HAVE MOMENTUM AT THE MOMENT..... SO ARE THEY PUSHING TO GET 4TH PLACE SO TO GET INTO THE 1ST ROUND PROPER OF THE VASE ?

 

BADSHOT LEA'S PLAYERS ATTITUDE COMES TO MIND ! TRUST ME GF THIS HAPPENS IN FOOTBALL...............

 

 

Call me a radical if you want but maybe Hanworth were just better.

 

You could do worse than watching them one day soon, they have improved a great deal in the 2nd hald of the season. As many people on this forum can testify to.

 

Precisely Strawman - NLS points out in another thread that in his view Hanworth have the best defence he has played against this season. Bet they won't be too happy at the suggestion their opponents last night couldn't be asked!

[PaGey87]

Having planned hanworth villa on a number of occasions over the past couple seasons they just seem to get stronger, I feel this is due to stability within the management and players, they've bought in minimal players and thats a good foundation to build upon. Going to hanworth is not the easiest place to go as they proved by comfortably beating us 2-0 in December and with their 2 big forwards they will give any defence in the league problems. For me I say top 3 next year for them If they can keep their squad.

[Ftfc]

Smudge wouldn't say feeling the pressure, lol Saturday was a bad day at the office last night we had enough chances to win it but we played well and thought we wer unlucky makes the league even more interesting now I think it'll go right down to the last game.

[duncs]

Epsom 0 Cove 2 great display from us last night with everyone playing well JJ was mom,our form away from home recently has been exceptional,our first goal was a worldy from Duffs 1 minute before half time and the 2nd was a great team effort from Jack Naegar,Epsom had some really good approach play but our goalkeeper didn't have one shot to save all night,officials were very good(it's funny how the officials are very good when you've won ).

[Smudge]

Yeah even if they make horrendous decisions,ask v.p.c.t.f.c.

[Farnborough fc manager]

I've slept on last nights game but having tried to restrain myself I will join the debate about the refs.

 

Chertsey Town will be making a complaint/report about Ian Kitchen last night as his performance and more importantly his attitude are not acceptable.

 

The game was a typical March CCL match on a very difficult pitch against a very determined Ash utd team that was far different in personnel and attitude from the team I saw against Banstead on Sat. The first half we had the better of it and created numerous half chances but we werent playing well and on about the half hour Ash caught us on the break with an excellent cross and goal. They then had only their second chance of the half but it was actually the best chance of the game but it was a fairly even contest on a very uneven pitch where it was difficult to string passes together. The ref was already being ridiculous on nearly every decision and wanted to speak to both teams at every opportunity which made the game so slow and all about him.

 

However the game was to turn at half time. As we came off one of my players was going nuts about racial comments made to him by one opposing player. This player is one of my Mr nice guys and I have no doubt that is what happened and I have never seen him so annoyed and generally disturbed. After trying to calm him down the teams went out and the ref had already gone in to speak to the Ash management. When he came out at the start of the second half I asked him what he had done. He said he had not heard it himself but there was 'an issue'and he had spoken to Ash but there was nothing he could do. I told him that it was totally unacceptable behaviour and he 'told me to do my job'. At which point my coach told him to 'f..... stop the racist comments'. I do not condone the language but it was an opinon in a tunnel. He then sent off my coach. He then face to faced me and told me to control my coach and told me arrogantly ' You're supposed to be qualified to do your job, I AM qualified to do mine' I told him to do his job then and he sent me off too! I am sure I will get the usual comments about his statement but what an arrogant ..... He then ordered me to walk around the pitch and ordered my coach out of the dugout and told him he couldnt stand next to me (I was out of the technical area) and when asked by my coach where to go was told to 'get in his car and go home!'

 

The game continued and we picked up and scored almost immediately and within ten minutes of the second half were 2-1 up. The ref continued to stop every piece of play and speak to players booking them for ridiculous things-EIGHT in total and the players thought it was a joke. One of ours was for timewasting when having won a free kick instantly we kicked the ball forward in play 20 yards and were hauled back, it makes Van Persies look fair! They had just as ridiculous bookings-it was all about the ref. I bet he loved it when the crowd starting singing that he was 'worse than Mark Halsey!' His arrogance is complete when I hear this morning from one of my players that came on as a sub at the hourmark. He fell in the box and when getting up my player alledged he was fouled by an Ash player. He asked the ref and was told 'talk to me when you are good enough to start!'

 

For the record we fell asleep and passed the ball straight to their centre forward that was brought down for a penalty that was thankfully missed and despite us missing three or four gilt edged chances to put the game to bed we had to rely on a good save from Bradders at the end to secure the points in a tough encounter

 

The racism thing is one thing and totally out of order and this is the second time in two weeks and on two different players. I didnt hear it but there is no place for it and the ref did nothing and he could have at least tried to calm the situation, there were also loads of Ash Utd kids watching. To be fair there was Aan incident alledged that one of my players retailiated in the second half and I dont condone that either. It was the far side of the pitch and the lino saw it and discussed it with the ref who just spoke to two players so I dont know if it was as serious as the Ash bench believed it was.

 

The game was a typical CCL winter match that was ruined by a very poor, arrogant official. Eight cards and two 'sending officials' off in a game without one seriously bad tackle. It was all about him and his arrogance is amazing. He should know that RESPECT is both ways and I hope the assessor that was there and is very well respected deals with his performance although he surely cant help with the verbal comments that he didn't hear.

 

Besides the racism allegation I thought the Ash players were fair and determined and just as flabaghasted at the refs performance and the officials of Ash were as polite and welcoming as usual both before and after the game. It's never a dull game when Chertsey visit Ash but last night was and for the wrong reasons and rather than just ignoring it we will be making a full report and complaint.

 

 

[aupostie]

I've slept on last nights game but having tried to restrain myself I will join the debate about the refs.

 

Chertsey Town will be making a complaint/report about Ian Kitchen last night as his performance and more importantly his attitude are not acceptable.

 

The game was a typical March CCL match on a very difficult pitch against a very determined Ash utd team that was far different in personnel and attitude from the team I saw against Banstead on Sat. The first half we had the better of it and created numerous half chances but we werent playing well and on about the half hour Ash caught us on the break with an excellent cross and goal. They then had only their second chance of the half but it was actually the best chance of the game but it was a fairly even contest on a very uneven pitch where it was difficult to string passes together. The ref was already being ridiculous on nearly every decision and wanted to speak to both teams at every opportunity which made the game so slow and all about him.

 

However the game was to turn at half time. As we came off one of my players was going nuts about racial comments made to him by one opposing player. This player is one of my Mr nice guys and I have no doubt that is what happened and I have never seen him so annoyed and generally disturbed. After trying to calm him down the teams went out and the ref had already gone in to speak to the Ash management. When he came out at the start of the second half I asked him what he had done. He said he had not heard it himself but there was 'an issue'and he had spoken to Ash but there was nothing he could do. I told him that it was totally unacceptable behaviour and he 'told me to do my job'. At which point my coach told him to 'f..... stop the racist comments'. I do not condone the language but it was an opinon in a tunnel. He then sent off my coach. He then face to faced me and told me to control my coach and told me arrogantly ' You're supposed to be qualified to do your job, I AM qualified to do mine' I told him to do his job then and he sent me off too! I am sure I will get the usual comments about his statement but what an arrogant ..... He then ordered me to walk around the pitch and ordered my coach out of the dugout and told him he couldnt stand next to me (I was out of the technical area) and when asked by my coach where to go was told to 'get in his car and go home!'

 

The game continued and we picked up and scored almost immediately and within ten minutes of the second half were 2-1 up. The ref continued to stop every piece of play and speak to players booking them for ridiculous things-EIGHT in total and the players thought it was a joke. One of ours was for timewasting when having won a free kick instantly we kicked the ball forward in play 20 yards and were hauled back, it makes Van Persies look fair! They had just as ridiculous bookings-it was all about the ref. I bet he loved it when the crowd starting singing that he was 'worse than Mark Halsey!' His arrogance is complete when I hear this morning from one of my players that came on as a sub at the hourmark. He fell in the box and when getting up my player alledged he was fouled by an Ash player. He asked the ref and was told 'talk to me when you are good enough to start!'

 

For the record we fell asleep and passed the ball straight to their centre forward that was brought down for a penalty that was thankfully missed and despite us missing three or four gilt edged chances to put the game to bed we had to rely on a good save from Bradders at the end to secure the points in a tough encounter

 

The racism thing is one thing and totally out of order and this is the second time in two weeks and on two different players. I didnt hear it but there is no place for it and the ref did nothing and he could have at least tried to calm the situation, there were also loads of Ash Utd kids watching. To be fair there was Aan incident alledged that one of my players retailiated in the second half and I dont condone that either. It was the far side of the pitch and the lino saw it and discussed it with the ref who just spoke to two players so I dont know if it was as serious as the Ash bench believed it was.

 

The game was a typical CCL winter match that was ruined by a very poor, arrogant official. Eight cards and two 'sending officials' off in a game without one seriously bad tackle. It was all about him and his arrogance is amazing. He should know that RESPECT is both ways and I hope the assessor that was there and is very well respected deals with his performance although he surely cant help with the verbal comments that he didn't hear.

 

Besides the racism allegation I thought the Ash players were fair and determined and just as flabaghasted at the refs performance and the officials of Ash were as polite and welcoming as usual both before and after the game. It's never a dull game when Chertsey visit Ash but last night was and for the wrong reasons and rather than just ignoring it we will be making a full report and complaint.

 

 

ChertseyTown..first anyone on the committee heard about the half time incident was when the officials came into the boardroom, & i know everyone within the club do not accept that behaviour & on behalf of the club like to apologise. However as we didnt hear or see anything its hard to take action but will be having a word with the management side.

 

 

We all wish at the club that the pitch was a little flatter but after recently being cut up badly after the Dorking game been hard to repair the damage properly as first its been too wet & now the its dried to quickly so a roll would have seen no improvement.

 

Will agree with you about our attitude so much better than saturday.

 

On your teams performance, it looked liked your team first half showing was that we are down the bottom & they will roll over for us, however after your halftime team talk, attitudes changes & played some neat & quick football scoring two good goals, however still gutted we missed that penalty, but good luck for the remainder of the season

 

 

[duncs]

The rascist comments are unacceptable CT and should be dealt with but the Ref thing sounds like a good old bit of banter,the thing with the sub is the sort of thing we all say maybe he got some of the bookings wrong i don't know I wasn't there, but 8 come on.I don't think we should stop the refs from talking to the players theres nothing worse than if a ref says feck all,your coach was sent off for foul and abusive language the same as happened to me last season it cost me 50 quid and when you think about it there's no argument.

[Farnborough fc manager]

I appreciate and thankyou for your comments Aupostie and as I said the Ash officials were genuine as usual all night. I wasnt critizing the pitch either as ours has cut up too, time of the year I'm afraid, it just made it difficult to play decent football. We knew you wouldnt roll over but we struggle to get going for 7.30pm KO at Ash with a numbor of our players only having a ten minute warm up due to travelling distances. Credit to your team, when you have a side out like last night you will give anyone a good game and we are just grateful to get away with the 3 points and onto the next one....

 

Oh and Duncs, I didnt swear at him at all-if it is a fine of £50 I would rather pay it and give him as much verbals as possible, it would have been worth it! First time removed from playing are or dugout in 25 years and just for telling a ref to do his job when he is giving me abuse-pathetic. If it is just banter as you say , it must be a two way thing with the Ref and this clearly was not

Edited March 9, 2011 by chertseytown

[duncs]

I didn't say it was you CT read your own post you said your coach swore at the Ref thats foul and abusive language, oh and I also got a 3 match ban so he's got that to look forward to as well.

[aupostie]

sorry CT got on my high horse about the pitch, but after Dorking moaning about it, just being a little protective as personally not seen many pitches as good looking as ours (maybe not playing that well tho) & with the amount of games on it & only having one game called off on it (& that's the other saturday when we should have played the game). However have to say yours was one of the best & its proves that as we both only have 3 homes games left to play, so we must be both doing something right.

 

i wont comment about the referee but did hear something that were very surprising, but then again some players just dont know when to shut up

[Mewcenary]

I was not present and can make no real comment other than from reading the above, but...

 

Please note that if the referee has not heard the rascist comments, there really is nothing that he can do. I'm sure you can appreciate that he can't dismiss on the say-so of the opposition team. Believe me, this frustrates referees a lot: I've done games where a player has slapped another away from play, but as I had not seen it... I could take no disciplinary action.

 

It sounds like the referee did take note of the agitation and speak to the team in question though, which seems suitably proactive in trying to manage the situation the best he could with the tools available.

 

However, I applaud you in doing the right thing in putting a report in with your feelings about the referee's management of the game. If that, combined with the report of the assessor, results in things moving in the right direction then that is best for everyone involved.

 

 

[duncs]

Who looks after your pitch AU is it still Jamie or have you got somebody else doing it and whats his/her secret,mind you knowing you its probably you.

[aupostie]

Its not Jamie who left a season ago after doing a really excellent job at the club for many many years without getting the proper rewards for his efforts

 

Got a new groundsman in just before the start of the season after the one that replaced Jamie just wasnt upto scratch. I dont know his secret but glad we've got him tho, so its not me duncs, im just left to paint the lines

[VPCTFC]

Camberley Town 3 Sandhurst Town 0.

The ref tonight was a lot better than the ref we had on Saturday! At least tonight's ref was confident in his decisions unlike the ditherer we had last game. He got some things wrong - some horrendously wrong but I've never known a Sandhurst side to whinge as much as this lot did tonight. Funnily enough, after another whinge at the ref all their players were strangely silent when two of their players did hopeless passes that went nowhere near any of their players but went sailing out for throw ins instead during the second half.

As for the penalty - well, that was shocking. It was dubious in the first place, we had a much better call a bit later that wasn't given but the ref really did make a howler. If the game had finished 0-0 we'd be going up the wall now. As it is, he's got off with it.

Bear in mind the FA, in their infinite wisdom, have failed to mention that goalnets are needed in anything other than FA competitions. They're not a requirement in non-league football from steps 1 to 6. Don't believe me? Check the rules.

Joe Paris took the penalty which clearly went in but the ball went through a hole in the net, hit the wall behind the goal and came back out again. TRS filmed a similar incident a few weeks back. The stand-side lino couldn't have possibly known which side of the post the ball passed but the ref was standing on the 18 yard line on that side of the goal. How he didn't see it as a goal is anyone's guess.

First thing - CTFC will be buying new goal nets this week.

Second thing - lino's never really check these things properly. They just have a cursory look and that's it. It's alleged the lino did mention to the ref there was a hole before the game but the ref didn't tell the club so we didn't know. This is just hearsay though

Third thing - as I've already said - goal nets aren't a requirement in the laws or rules so refs should position themselves accordingly and not assume things based on who shouts the loudest.

 

Anyway, good to see Jock is well and I still hope Sandhurst get to the League Cup final.

 

Before I start, Camberley fully deserved the win and I am not blaming the referee for the defeat, but his incompetence did not help the cause. The way we played for most of the game last night, we would have lost anyway, regardless of who was incharge.

 

The game started even, and Sandhurst were pleased with the start but then after 20 mins the game turned into a fiasco. Dubious penatly awarded for a tackle just inside the box under the nose of the assistant and I don't think the referee was best placed to award it. As VP has said, the penalty was converted, but because Camberley have been spending money on the new ground proposal rather than maintaining the equipment in the current ground, the ball came back out and a goal kick was awarded, both sets of players had started to set themselves up for the restart. Cue 6 or 7 Camberley players rounding the referee. Unbelivably, the ref then went to speak to his Assistant and both concured that they we both looking for encroachment (ref - players, assistant - goalie) and neither were looking to see if the ball went in. The ref then decides that the net needs reparing - if the ball went wide then why check? 5 minute hold up for that.

 

Camberley then had a far better penalty shout waved away before they took the lead.

 

The next crazy decision was when the Cambo right winger started chasing after a ball down the right wing. Our left back got there just in front of the winger who then shoved our left back to get past. The assistant started waving his flag to award a free kick to Sandhurst, but as he had is flag in the wrong hand, the ref thought he was awarding a free kick to Cambo and played the advantage before coming back to caution our full back to the bewilderment of most.

 

Later on, one of the Sandhurst players went down with a head injury and the referee stopped the game. He restarted with a drop ball and the Cambo player on it said he would kick it back to our goalie but his teammate said 'we were in possesion so keep it'. So all of a sudden from an unchallenged drop ball, the referee just went 'ok' and droped it on the foot of the Cambo player who went to dribble forward. Our CB came in, swung a leg for the ball, got a touch on the ball and missed the player with the follow through of his swing (not attempting to get the play, just the natural action), ref awards a free kick and cautions our CB.

 

Camberley were equally fustrated by the referee when they tried to take quick free kicks because the ball was 3mm from where it should have been.

 

I think before the half closed, both sides had another player cautioned when the award of the free kick was dubious.

 

Into the second half and Camberley went two goals in front from a corner that Sandhurst fell asleep for.

 

When then had out Right Back sent off for two yellow cards, the first for a foul, fine, the second again for a foul, but this time two players competed for a loose ball, the Cambo player got there milliseconds before our RB, a coming together and at worst a freekick only if it warranted one. If Rooney last week was just a coming together, then this could only be described as a tickle. Anyway, the referee couldn't have got his red card out any quicker.

 

It may have been at this time that our other CB picked up a yellow for dissent (no excuse for dissent cautions in my mind).

 

The third goal had a huge suspician of off-side. Cambro player tried to chip the goalie who did well to tip the ball onto the bar and the rebound fell at the feet of the cambo striker with no-one around him and put the ball in. To most in the ground it looked like he was offside from the original shot. Our CB who was cautioned in the first half gave too much verbal and got himself a second yellow card (again, no excuse for it, but I will say that if he is cautioning for dissent, he shold have showed a couple to the Cambo players that surrounded him after the goal from the penalty was not given).

 

Camberley had one of their strikers cautioned for kicking the ball away which was even more harsh than Van Persie's last night.

 

The final silliness from the referee that I can remeber is late on we were awarded a free kick which the referee said in your half for. The ball was placed just inside our half and then the ref shouted come on I said inside your half - the ball was - and then made us move the ball back 6 yards. Something trivial, but given how bad he was, the smallest thing was winding Sandhurst up (again, should not be affected by it, but human nature dictates it sometimes). If he had said 6 yards inside your half, everyone knew where they were standing.

 

The referee was being assessed and it would have been interesting to find out what he made of the performance, although why the assessor decided to sit in the stand for the whole of the game, rather than wander around the ground as 99.9% of other assesors do, is a mystery. The referee was doing lines on division one 3 or 4 seasons ago, so he has obvously been fast-tracked and again this was an example of the Surrey FA pushing someone who is not quite ready yet. The league should also take some flack here for appointing a new-ish referee for a local derby. You won't see the FA give Stuart Attwell or even Michael Oliver (who is far better than Attwell) a Merseyside derby just yet.

 

Those who know me know that I rarely rant on about referees (more the assistants) and in fact I am normally the one explaining to my team why the referee gave the decision (ask Surrey Legend), but this guy last night was hopeless. It may have just been a bad game for him that everyone has, but I know both teams are writing a letter to go with the low marks.

 

As I started, Camberley deserved the win, supported by the fact that we only made the Camberley goalkeeper work once and that was a shot straight at him. Other than that the closest we came to scoring was a shot late on which went just over. The penalty incident spured Cambo on and seemed to knock the wind out of our sails. Some of the cautions were not needed, but if decisions go against you, you cannot keep moaning at the refs because they will start cautioning and they are cheap needless ones that end up causing problems for your team-mates.

 

Just one thing I have to disagree with you on - the football club aren't spending any money on the ground development. At least, not to my knowledge. The applicants who have spent a considerable sum so far are Fusion X Soccer Centres. And, as I mentioned earlier, there's no requirement ot have goal nets for CCL football so why should we maintain them? Obviously last night proved it's in our interests to get them sorted out though.

There was a Witham fan at the ground last night who's also a groundhopper. It's always good to see indepnedant reviews. he said:- The main reason for the late finish tonight was simply refereeing incompetence! Following the award of a dubious penalty which was scored by Camberley the referee chose to believe the ball had not entered the net when to everybody else it clearly had! Eventually he was persuaded to inspect the net and shown the gap which the ball had obviously escaped through, repairs were made and the result of all this.... goal disallowed?

There then followed a number of crazy decisions, needless bookings, and understandably a loss of temper with some of the players eventually leading to two red cards for the away team for second bookings in the second half, by which time the home side were 3-0 up and deservedly so.

[Terrence Collina]

You got reeled in on that one VP.

 

And talking to your Vice-Chairman last night, a considerable amount of money has already been spent on the new ground.

[tempestward]

MVSCR 1 Egham Town 0. Decent wallop from Fennessey, from about 30 yards, for the only goal of a scrappy game. We forgot we were playing in blue and MV weren't a lot better. Bloody silly fracas at half time. I know who I blame for starting it and it wasn't MV. The reaction was a tad over macho, but thankfully it blew over. MV have done the double over us, which makes us knocking them out of the Surrey Senior Cup only some small consolation. We had one "shot" on target all night. Even I could have saved it.

 

 

Tempestward,I must correct you on your spelling it was Fennessy,back to the classroom young man.

 

Smudge, you, of all people, are in no position to correct someone's spelling. For your information I took the spelling from the crappy, overpriced excuse for a programme. I know what bad programmes are like; I produced enough in my time as editor. However, we never had the barefaced cheek to charge £1.50 for them. As for corrections, where do I start with your punctuation? It is probably best to leave this alone before some pillock accuses me of being "too highbrow" becaue "this is not Countdown". How is this for a useful contribution to the forum, generating more posts?

Edited March 9, 2011 by tempestward