Budgets

[The Detective]

This continual debate and denial of who has a budget and who does not is only relevant in the opinions of people who believe it to be a greater achievement to win the ESL without one. A few years ago I believed the scale of monies paid per week to get out of a league were, ESL=£500.00, R1=£1,500.00, RP= £3,000.00. Are these still about right? Not saying winning the league cannot be achieved without money as I believe Stansted will prove again.

[Eastside Urchin]

Sutton are apparently on around 5-6k a week to get out of the ryman prem

Lowestoft last year was around 3K i heard to get out ryman one north bunt reckon it was probably nearer 2.5

Edited February 16, 2011 by Eastside Urchin

[Beachboys]

Put 20% on and then there all achievable !

[Mark Hoffman]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

[johnny bell]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

[Sorry]

TTB - I don't really care who has a budget or not. I just know that we have nothing at Burnham.

 

At the end of the day regardless of whether people are getting paid or not the team that wins the league are always the best team.

 

Obviously if anyone wants to give £500 a week towards a playing budget .... I promise not to tell any of my players

 

 

[BIGBADBUDDHA]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

 

Not been on here for a long while cos all the crap people post but let me tell ya the bowers EXPENSES are £300 pound a week,the starting 11 on a sat get £20 the subs get £10 physio gets £20 and I give £10 to get kit washed ,no money is paid for midweek games,That includes Craig Gillam big mouth now wether u believe me or not I dont give a toss,so get ya facts right before gobbing off

[coach et 64]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

Southend Manor £400??? I always knew it!!!Thanks Hoff

[Basil-Don]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

 

Not been on here for a long while cos all the crap people post but let me tell ya the bowers EXPENSES are £300 pound a week,the starting 11 on a sat get £20 the subs get £10 physio gets £20 and I give £10 to get kit washed ,no money is paid for midweek games,That includes Craig Gillam big mouth now wether u believe me or not I dont give a toss,so get ya facts right before gobbing off

 

youre getting ripped off on the kit wash ours is £8-50.

[BIGBADBUDDHA]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

 

Not been on here for a long while cos all the crap people post but let me tell ya the bowers EXPENSES are £300 pound a week,the starting 11 on a sat get £20 the subs get £10 physio gets £20 and I give £10 to get kit washed ,no money is paid for midweek games,That includes Craig Gillam big mouth now wether u believe me or not I dont give a toss,so get ya facts right before gobbing off

 

youre getting ripped off on the kit wash ours is £8-50.

 

Errrrr Rich yours is a lot cheaper than that, cos allegedly the bill has not been paid all season according to the launderette u use,but im sure u will correct me if im wrong ???

[Basil-Don]

no comment.

 

 

[WTF]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

 

Not been on here for a long while cos all the crap people post but let me tell ya the bowers EXPENSES are £300 pound a week,the starting 11 on a sat get £20 the subs get £10 physio gets £20 and I give £10 to get kit washed ,no money is paid for midweek games,That includes Craig Gillam big mouth now wether u believe me or not I dont give a toss,so get ya facts right before gobbing off

 

Gaffer, given that every time someone says that money is being paid to players at a club then someone from the club comes on and says there is no money at their club can we assume that by you saying that there is money being paid at Bowers actutally means that there is no money?

 

Also,can you confirm that Wishy Washy will be doing our kit in future?

 

 

 

 

 

[BIGBADBUDDHA]

Witham £1500

Enfield £1000

Bethnal Green £0

Stansted £0

Bowers £200

Southend Manor £400

Burnham Ramblers £0

Basildon Utd £0

Barkingside £0

 

These are the facts so please let's move on.

 

Whether a team achieves success with a budget or without, it is irrelavent. The facts are the facts and the league table at the end of the season will show that every team has played the same amount of games and whoever gets the most points will win the league. There are no added bonuses for doing well without a budget and there is no penalty for winning the league when you pay your players.

 

Let's concentrate on the important side of the game, like corruption.

 

 

bowers £200 that prob goes straight in gillams pocket :smilewinkgrin: the enfield and witham i would believe burnham ,stansted and bethnal green not to sure about and before never been and sorry get on here saying we pay i can tell u we used to give expenses to a few boys at the begining of the season who were traveling down from london but instead of making the team better they destroyed the team sprite and as the league showed before christmas 2nd bottom they were well worth it (not!) now we have local boys who just want to play for the club for the love of football and not money

 

Not been on here for a long while cos all the crap people post but let me tell ya the bowers EXPENSES are £300 pound a week,the starting 11 on a sat get £20 the subs get £10 physio gets £20 and I give £10 to get kit washed ,no money is paid for midweek games,That includes Craig Gillam big mouth now wether u believe me or not I dont give a toss,so get ya facts right before gobbing off

 

Gaffer, given that every time someone says that money is being paid to players at a club then someone from the club comes on and says there is no money at their club can we assume that by you saying that there is money being paid at Bowers actutally means that there is no money?

 

Also,can you confirm that Wishy Washy will be doing our kit in future?

 

 

Lol Mikey u nearly lost me there,Really pi sses me off when t wats come on here bad mouthing people when they aint gotta a clue what they talking about (which is why i dont really use the forum now) I cant understand why people are bothered about who pays what. Wishy Washy aint that from a pantomime ? oh yeah Basildon,lol ,Not gonna come back on here again but seems funny a no comment from Rich Mann which has never been known before,Im sure I heard the words small claims court somewhere, and the launderette in question saying they want to sponser Bowers next season,Mind you Rich Mann can always come on here and say Im wrong Hmmmmm

 

 

[Insular and Overrated]

Yet for all the petty bitching on this thread about Basildon from people who should know better they are above Bowers. And having played against both teams I know which team it was easier to get anything out of. Anyway back on subject money is irrelevant, drive costs nothing, commitment costs nothing and if you don't have any of that it doesn't matter how skilled you are or what money is paid out you ain't gonna win anything.

[ESL Observer]

I agree insular you can have all the ability in the world but you can't buy commitment and passion. Very touchy from BBB, Takeley's comment must of touched a nerve to draw him out of forum semi-retirement

[jackility]

I agree insular you can have all the ability in the world but you can't buy commitment and passion. Very touchy from BBB, Takeley's comment must of touched a nerve to draw him out of forum semi-retirement

 

BBB is obviously bored and fed up of games being called off week in week out, he has realised this is the closest any of us can get to ESL football at present! lol

[The Detective]

Interesting comments!

One of the things I have come to realise about football at this level is that the most important asset any club can have is a manager/coaching staff who have the contacts to bring in good quality players with little or no budget, create a sense of togetherness and a will to play for each other. He does not even have to be a great tactician! For any ESL club, the coaching staff is where their limited budget should be spent or as in most cases, simply appreciated. We all know of a few teams in the ESL who have created exactly that atmosphere. Some people are in denial. They claim "they must have a budget". Its not called a budget. Its more precious than that!

[Hookey]

Interesting comments!

One of the things I have come to realise about football at this level is that the most important asset any club can have is a manager/coaching staff who have the contacts to bring in good quality players with little or no budget, create a sense of togetherness and a will to play for each other. He does not even have to be a great tactician! For any ESL club, the coaching staff is where their limited budget should be spent or as in most cases, simply appreciated. We all know of a few teams in the ESL who have created exactly that atmosphere. Some people are in denial. They claim "they must have a budget". Its not called a budget. Its more precious than that!

 

Interesting point re the coaching staff, especially as at this time of the season. Even if clubs have the facilities to train/coach, when most training pitches are like bogs, the games come so thick and fast that coaching is more or less restricted to theory rather than practice.

[The Detective]

Interesting comments!

One of the things I have come to realise about football at this level is that the most important asset any club can have is a manager/coaching staff who have the contacts to bring in good quality players with little or no budget, create a sense of togetherness and a will to play for each other. He does not even have to be a great tactician! For any ESL club, the coaching staff is where their limited budget should be spent or as in most cases, simply appreciated. We all know of a few teams in the ESL who have created exactly that atmosphere. Some people are in denial. They claim "they must have a budget". Its not called a budget. Its more precious than that!

 

Interesting point re the coaching staff, especially as at this time of the season. Even if clubs have the facilities to train/coach, when most training pitches are like bogs, the games come so thick and fast that coaching is more or less restricted to theory rather than practice.

 

Sorry, I meant to say I dont see your point! What as that got to say with with regards to managers,coaching staff?????

Edited February 20, 2011 by The Detective

[johnny bell]

Look let's sum this up there r teams that pay there r teams that say they dont but everyone knows they do and there is the teams that don't pay nothing, let's be honest no one cares really its just were all p**sed off that there is no football cos of the weather and cos none off us want to go shopping with the misses we all come on here to have s chat and banter, at the end off the day all we want is our football back please mister weather man !