Arlesey Town A-A Slough Town

[GarySTFC]

http://twitter.com/sloughtown has all the detail of the line ups from our matches.

 

Woozley came in with the number 4 shirt, replacing Logie, and was partnering Perkins at centre back with Seeby moving forward alongside Coyne in the middle of the park.

[GarySTFC]

Footage from the game today now online (including Swift's "goal")

 

http://www.sloughtownfc.net/

[chris sliski]

On the point of us providing a lineman at a game last season ,This was on the proviso that he was quailfied , and we were lucky in this case that we had a qualifyied

person in the ground ..or else this may have been called off , That was because the referee insisted that on that occassion.

 

Now reading Gary's notes on the league ruling... all very well now ...but this may allowed Aylesey to not even pay for the vouchers if not used ! this can not be so I hope they deem fit

to ensure when the claim is made that they think of the away supporters who travelled in numbers and were the only ones left at the ground...who should have been dealt

with better thoughtfulness and not made up answers that we received.

 

Our supporters who travelled by coach today, received full refunds on the way back to Slough...as Trust membership includes cancellation match clause to ensure no one is left out of pocket ...on these type of occassions..(only if you travel by a organised supporters coach) sadly.

 

chris sliski personally

Edited February 5, 2011 by chris sliski

[readingrebel]

I'm afraid I'll have to agree with the game being called off.

 

Apart from the farcical windy conditions which would have made the outcome of the game a lottery, to have an un-qualified Arlesey official run the line in such an important game was IMO a complete non-starter.

 

 

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

i think the league might think of there being a requirement in the future for a fourth official to be in attendance yes i know that this is going to be extra expense and that some clubs might find it difficult to absorb this or maybe the clubs should agree on a spare official agreeable to both sides before the match starts ,could be someone nominated by the home club and notified to the league and refs association and issued with a tempory ticket signed and agreed by the officials and team managers at the beginning of each match and obviously only valid at each match, only ideas but at possibility no! and maybe stop the shambles suffered today.

Edited February 5, 2011 by HEAVY TRUCKER

[Fuzzy Royal]

You've got a very good defender in Woozley, he'll do a good job for you. If you manage to go up this year he looks very good at Premier level as well.

[HorshamRebel]

Our supporters who travelled by coach today, received full refunds on the way back to Slough...as Trust membership includes cancellation match clause to ensure no one is left out of pocket ...on these type of occassions..(only if you travel by a organised supporters coach) sadly.

 

chris sliski personally

 

 

This is another very good reason to travel on the coach (as trust members) for the longer trips.

 

For me, the coach is a great help when we have matches that far north. Unfortunately I couldn't do the coach this time, so had a long car journey.

 

 

 

See Alan Harding at matchdays to get a place on the coach. Deatails are also on the website

 

If you are not yet a member of the trust, go to the Trust hut at home matches, or go to Mark Hunter, Mike Lightfoot, Alan Harding, Sue, or myself, and we can help you join.

Edited February 6, 2011 by HorshamRebel

[Windsor_Sec]

Unfortunately, and I hope the league do not invoke the rule, both clubs could be heavily fined or have points deducted for failing to fulfil the fixture as league rule 15.3 states:-

 

' In the event of any of the Match Officials for a match not being in attendance or becoming unable to complete the match it shall be completed under the control of the remaining Match Officials unless the competing clubs are able to agree upon a substitute who is acceptable to the Match Referee'.

 

I'll miss the next bit as it's irrelevant then it closes with:-

 

' In the event that a club causes a match to be abandoned in relation to the operation of this Rule then that club shall be charged with failing to fulfil a fixture'.

 

So there are several issues here,

[1] The referee is at fault for not knowing he can complete the game without appointing a replacement and can actually over-rule both clubs' protestations. This rule was brought in I believe following a test case in the Ryman League to stop any silliness where clubs don't like someone who steps in to help.

[2] by not agreeing a replacement, when it seems from comments previously that at least two were were willing to do so, both clubs may have opened themselves up to the charge of failing to fulfil the fixture.

 

My guess is the league will not be that severe but I would suggest to Gary that you get a claim in for your coach expenses asap because if you are ordered to replay the game on cup-tie terms and most of the crowd have got tickets for free entry then there won't be enough funds to pay your coach costs on the night !

 

Let's hope common sense prevails.

[brighton_rebel]

I just felt ripped off. As a goodwill gesture i think Slough supporters should have been given a refund, but it was very apparent they didn't want to give us our money back. Officials talked to me about costs, but Slough supporters were drinking in the bar and stuffing their faces in the tea hut so i'm pretty sure we covered all their costs. One committee member apologised and bought me a drink and also said that despite the rumours they weren't a rich club and couldn't afford to be promoted!

[A Rebel and a Saint]

If Arlesey are that worried about costs that they could not give us a refund, how do they plan on making enough money to pay officials in the replayed game, with any visiting fans turning up and not paying? And on that same note, how do they pay the officials and costs without travelling support there in any other game?

 

It seems that if the league chooses to invoke the rule that Windsor Sec pointed out above, both clubs will suffer as a result of not being able to make a simple decision.

 

On the talk of the weather conditions, that is completely irrelevant, as every game across a large proportion of the country will have been played in similar strength winds.

[staines_rebel_Jr]

Surely the wind cant be an issue as both teams have to play in it and at half time you have to change halves so you have to expect the wind will be in your favour in one half. Also isnt this one of the main reasons of having a coin toss to see which side has the advantage in the first half?

[readingrebel]

Surely the wind cant be an issue as both teams have to play in it and at half time you have to change halves so you have to expect the wind will be in your favour in one half. Also isnt this one of the main reasons of having a coin toss to see which side has the advantage in the first half?

 

 

My point about the wind was that, given a choice, I'd rather play an important game, such as yesterday's, where the wind wasn't such a major factor in deciding the outcome of the game.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

I think the wind was a big factor to our advantage as it evened out the play and being a goal up we had a very real chance of getting something out of this game - how our management failed to see this just goes to show the poor decision making of the bench.

 

When was the last time we put one past Richard Hayward? and then we say no lets cancel out that goal and give the advantage back to Arlesey

 

Now we must start the game a fresh without that 1-0 lead and we are therefore less likly to get anything out of the replay.

 

I feel we were robbed both on and off the pitch!

 

This game will come back to haunt us!

Edited February 6, 2011 by Staines-upon-Thames Rebel

[HorshamRebel]

The match write up on the Arlesey site :

 

 

 

With a fierce gale blowing down the pitch the game started with a minutes silence for former Arlesey club chairman John Milton who very sadly died during the week.

 

 

With Slough starting with the wind at their backs they pushed forward from the start forcing Arlesey back into defence. An early free kick in by Stuart Swift from the right was picked up by the wind flying over everybody and the bar.

 

Arlesey were struggling to clear the ball up field against the wind and were trying to grapple control in the middle, Joe Reynolds just clipped a Slough player in the centre, the ref played on with the Slough player on the floor and after several good passes the ball came to Steve Sinclair on the edge of the Arlesey area who shot wide of the post. As the ball went out of play the ref booked Joe Reynolds for the earlier foul.

 

Arlesey were starting to break out, a free kick in by Lee Allinson was defeated by the wind and cleared, and a good ball forward by Allinson was well collected on the edge of the area by Charlie Fanner just before Zema Abbey could make up the ground. Arlesey had a good chance as Stuart Sinclair fed the ball out to Aston Goss who crossed the ball into Joel Mason who headed just past the post.

 

Allinson gave away a free kick with a clumsy challenge on to edge of the Arlesey area on the edge of the “D” in a central position. With Arlesey lining up their wall Stuart Swift fired in a great free kick that flew with the wind behind it through the wall and past the diving Richard Hayward to give the visitors an early lead with 16 minutes on the clock

 

Just two minutes later a long ball up was kicked by Fanner straight at Joel Mason who had closed him down very quickly, the ball bounced across the goal and Fanner made a despairing dive at the ball and Mason pulling him back, with the crowd and everybody at that end calling for a penalty that would have surly have sent the Slough keeper off all eyes looked at the ref who was on the floor holding his leg.

 

With the game stopped for the ref to receive treatment it was found that he was unable to continue, and after an appeal to the crowd for a replacement linesman eventually Arlesey’s youth team coach Paul Ison volunteered but this was deemed unsuitable by Slough Town and they refused to continue with him on the line and left the pitch. With no other course open the match was abandoned on 23 minutes.

 

 

This could have further repercussions following the refs report and deliberations from the F.A. and the League. Next Tuesday Arlesey are away to Northwood and they need to get a result as Hitchin have now played 5 games more than them.

 

 

 

 

[Ian]

What a ridiculously one-sided view of events making it sound like our fault. We proposed an alternative to their U12 coach (Dave Anderson) which they declined and the Arlesey players left the pitch minutes before Slough's.

[Martin]

Well that is a hilariously one sided and inaccurate account. The referee had clearly decided no penalty long before he clutched his calf and couldn't continue. As Ian says the Arlesey players left the field first en masse and neither side were prepared to agree on a replacement.

 

I also don't think Swifty's free kick was wind affected - just pure class.

 

Still either way suspect that both sides may regret calling this game off.

 

BTW RR I don't think the wind played a factor in the home game where Arlesey caned us three nil with ten men so to call it off when the wind was working to our advantage still seems a bit daft to me.

[readingrebel]

Well that is a hilariously one sided and inaccurate account. The referee had clearly decided no penalty long before he clutched his calf and couldn't continue. As Ian says the Arlesey players left the field first en masse and neither side were prepared to agree on a replacement.

 

I also don't think Swifty's free kick was wind affected - just pure class.

 

Still either way suspect that both sides may regret calling this game off.

 

BTW RR I don't think the wind played a factor in the home game where Arlesey caned us three nil with ten men so to call it off when the wind was working to our advantage still seems a bit daft to me.

 

 

 

Correct Martin, the wind did not play a factor when they caned us 3-0. What played a factor in that defeat was our inability on the day to pass the ball to each other over any length of distance and giving the ball to the opposition when in possession.

[readingrebel]

I think the wind was a big factor to our advantage as it evened out the play and being a goal up we had a very real chance of getting something out of this game - how our management failed to see this just goes to show the poor decision making of the bench.

 

When was the last time we put one past Richard Hayward? and then we say no lets cancel out that goal and give the advantage back to Arlesey

 

Now we must start the game a fresh without that 1-0 lead and we are therefore less likly to get anything out of the replay.

 

I feel we were robbed both on and off the pitch!

 

This game will come back to haunt us!

 

 

We only played 22 minutes, who knows what team would have made the most of the conditions.

 

Also sounds like we'ed be better off not bothering to turn up for the re-scheduled game because we have no chance of beating them.

[A Rebel and a Saint]

So by that logic, we should have looked to continue the game yesterday as we were passing it well and holding onto it in the windy conditions and had the lead.

[Sue]

I think the way the we were treated on Saturday was very thoughtless and totally unprofessional!

 

It took ages for them to finally give us vouchers for the replay and then the guy giving them out was putting his signature on each one, what was that all about, good god this is a game in non league football not the champions league, did he think we were planning to sell them on ebay for christ sake, and then when there were only a few of us left another person came out and said if the FA say they dont have to let us in with the vouchers we will have to pay, nice one very kind and caring people.

 

There may be rules and regulations but a bit of consideration and sympathy for the away fans would of been nice, manners maketh the man!!

 

I dont believe for one minute they dont have much money and cant afford to get promoted, I am sure Mr Hayward doesnt come cheap along with the rest of their squad !