Southill Alexander

[and1inthetree]

shame, but seemed inevitable that the experiment would be doomed to fail once the novelty factor wore off for the investors, board, fans, players etc.

 

i thought ken painted the clubhouse and didn't charge a penny. remember the don being there as he had nothing else to do and was sulking with his club for some imagined slight, possibly even to do with southill alexander... anyway, thought he received some other sort of payment...?

[theboybuzzer]

Not me and my son - it's either AFC Hornchurch or, if we're desperate, Basildon United.

[missunderstood]

>>>>Rushden and Diamonds, MK Dons and to an extent Dagenham and Redbridge don't seem to be doing to badly.

 

 

You might find that supporters of Rushden Utd, Irthlingborough Diamonds, Wimbledon, Milton Keynes City, Walthamstow Avenue, Ilford, Leytonstone, Redbridge Forest and Dagenham FC may not agree.

 

>>>>>Mergers and ground shares are the only way clubs at our level will be able to survive IMO.

 

just think - Canvey, Concord and Benfleet could all merge - they would of course be called Benfleet Island Rangers, and would most likely play at Benfleet's ground.

 

 

Apart from Wimbledon, non of the other clubs had many supporters and I would think they are delighted with the level they now watch their football, and the fans from Northants must love Rushdens fantastic stadium which is something they couldn't even have dreamt of before the merger.

 

I have Watched Dagenham five times this season and every supporter I have spoken to is currently "living the dream" even though they will probably be relegated come April.

 

With the vast majority of clubs at our level struggling financially due to a total inability to attract new supporters in enough numbers, groundshares and mergers are the only way we can hopefully leave our local non league football clubs for the next generation.

 

Unfortunately, progress always seems to be hindered by Luddites and geriatric lemmings in replica shirts who prefer to keep their prejudices and tribal differences intact for their own selfish ends.

Edited January 13, 2011 by missunderstood

[Eastside Urchin]

I see another thread on this has been locked on the General non league forum even though there was just good honest discussion,this is all too common lately on this subject and why i believe fans focus is nowhere near as busy as it used to be,in certain forums.

[Hasbeen]

I see another thread on this has been locked on the General non league forum even though there was just good honest discussion,this is all too common lately on this subject and why i believe fans focus is nowhere near as busy as it used to be,in certain forums.

 

 

Open discussion is always good so lets keep the debates going. I for one am totally against ground share unless absolutely necessary. At the moment although things are tough I believe we as a club are making progress so hopefully we don't have to enter any ground share. For one thing we have all seen how the pitch has suffered due to the poor weather lately and additional games on it would have made things even more difficult.

[Eastside Urchin]

The other thread has been re opened,I believe it may of been a technical issue

[Hornchurch "O"]

Does that mean you threatened the moderator, Rob.

[Eastside Urchin]

No,just thought it odd it was locked

[cup of tea]

It seems inevitable in the current economic climate and with Sky's influence on football generally that you are going to get more groundshares and mergers - if' it's the option of that or oblivion then there's no choice really.

In Hornchurch's case - Well I think we've got a good chairman in charge - a proper footballing man and in terms of playing staff we seem to be doing well at the moment.

A groundshare will mean that the pitch is going to be put under a lot more pressure and will either need a lot more money spent on it or it will become unplayable.

On the plus side, costs will be shared.

I'd prefer, if possible for Hornchurch to stay as it is. Not my call though.

[missunderstood]

It seems inevitable in the current economic climate and with Sky's influence on football generally that you are going to get more groundshares and mergers - if' it's the option of that or oblivion then there's no choice really.

In Hornchurch's case - Well I think we've got a good chairman in charge - a proper footballing man and in terms of playing staff we seem to be doing well at the moment.

A groundshare will mean that the pitch is going to be put under a lot more pressure and will either need a lot more money spent on it or it will become unplayable.

On the plus side, costs will be shared.

I'd prefer, if possible for Hornchurch to stay as it is. Not my call though.

 

Apart from the cost saving advantages ground sharing also guarantees that the two clubs who are competing for the same (neutral) supporters will never be at home on the same day, which should mean an increase in gate revenue for both clubs, especially now that the cost of travel, and petrol is making it prohibitively expensive for many of us to attend away fixtures.

Edited January 14, 2011 by missunderstood

[Hasbeen]

It seems inevitable in the current economic climate and with Sky's influence on football generally that you are going to get more groundshares and mergers - if' it's the option of that or oblivion then there's no choice really.

In Hornchurch's case - Well I think we've got a good chairman in charge - a proper footballing man and in terms of playing staff we seem to be doing well at the moment.

A groundshare will mean that the pitch is going to be put under a lot more pressure and will either need a lot more money spent on it or it will become unplayable.

On the plus side, costs will be shared.

I'd prefer, if possible for Hornchurch to stay as it is. Not my call though.

 

Apart from the cost saving advantages ground sharing also guarantees that the two clubs who are competing for the same (neutral) supporters will never be at home on the same day, which should mean an increase in gate revenue for both clubs, especially now that the cost of travel, and petrol is making it prohibitively expensive for many of us to attend away fixtures.

 

 

I'm not sure many supporters of either club would patronise each others games when their 'own team was away and I don't believe there are that many floating supporters? If I remember when the teams shared previously the supporters of RFC boycotted the bar I can hardly see many of them paying money to watch Hornchurch? And as previously mentioned the additional games on the pitch would take its toll

 

I personally don't think we should groundshare but if the 'Club' deemed it necessary then so be it but surely this discussion is immaterial as RFC get their own gound up and running?

[Eastside Urchin]

i too can't see many fans from the other club watching the other teams home games.

Personally,many of the fans that don't go to away games,don't do it because they won't travel away as many do the occasional game but because they have different things to do on saturdays

[missunderstood]

i too can't see many fans from the other club watching the other teams home games.

 

 

Not sure if your correct with that assumption Rob. I was thinking of going to Hornchurch last week as I thought Lowerstoft looked an attractive fixture, and if I'm honest, to see what the difference in standards are in the RPL as we will hopefully be promoted this year. In the end though I plumped for Dagenham and I was supprised that less than two thousand people turned up for a match in the third tier of English football.

 

As AFCH only had a gate of just over three hundred for an attractive looking six pointer top of the table clash, it seems to me that clubs in this area are having genuine problems getting enough supporters through the turnstiles and if clubs don't start thinking outside the box, Southill Alexander (and Leyton) wont be the clubs to fold in the not to distant future.

[Romboro]

I thought you was going to say Romford Rob

 

Is that the Romford who beat AFC Hornchurch 3-0 in a 90 minute training session the other Tuesday evening by any chance?

[Hasbeen]

i too can't see many fans from the other club watching the other teams home games.

 

 

Not sure if your correct with that assumption Rob. I was thinking of going to Hornchurch last week as I thought Lowerstoft looked an attractive fixture, and if I'm honest, to see what the difference in standards are in the RPL as we will hopefully be promoted this year. In the end though I plumped for Dagenham and I was supprised that less than two thousand people turned up for a match in the third tier of English football.

 

As AFCH only had a gate of just over three hundred for an attractive looking six pointer top of the table clash, it seems to me that clubs in this area are having genuine problems getting enough supporters through the turnstiles and if clubs don't start thinking outside the box, Southill Alexander (and Leyton) wont be the clubs to fold in the not to distant future.

 

 

Whilst appreciating that any additional revenue helps I don't believe that more than one or two supporters would visit the Stadium to watch both teams so the revenue would be negligible for both and I still maintain not worth the additional traffic on the pitch. I'm not sure if I have misunderstood something misunderstood but I was under the impression that Romford would have a gleaming new ground in the very near future negating any need for a ground share as implied???