Quite Frankly, A Gutless Load Of Tossmonkeys

[EFM Trev]

Absolute rubbish. I pay my money, and I'm frankly let down by a tean that don't seem to appreciate either the value of pulling on a City shirt or the importance of the Canvey matches. Anybody who was there tonight will already know what I'm talking about - and there wasn't any misbehaviour by EFM for the chairman (or indeed the manager) to deflect criticism away from the team. How many more times am I going to have to go all the way down there for an exhibition match against a team that is clearly a class above us? Answers, please.

 

Because on the basis of tonight's performance, I can't think of a single justification for wasting even more of my hard earned by going on Saturday.

[AFF]

Hi Trev.

 

You asked how many more times will you have to go to Canvey. Well, not many. They played super football last night and were full value for a comprehensive win. On that form, with their strenghth in depth, and funded by Mr King, I see them in the Conference [proper] next season.

 

Next Saturday? Well you have to support The Mighty Saints, it's good fun amongst your mates, and you could seek me out for a word or two on 'Blair: Saint or Sinner', '4-4-2 vs. 3-5-1', 'The need for Sky TV in the clubhouse', 'University funding' or anything else you wish to discuss.

 

Thick and thin, Trev. Expectation and Anguish. Grass roots football. Thick and thin.

[HelenC]

I do agree that last night was a let down when you pay your hard earnt money, but I was terribly ambarrassed by the way that some of the supporters conducted themsleves last night. As AFF says you are suppose to support your team through thick and thin, not just when we are good and playing well, as difficult as that is sometimes! The 'singing' that was conducted behind myslef in the first half was as bad as the football infront.

 

Canvey must have had a field day, seeing our team play badly against them, the fans getting on their backs and even players reacting to fans obsence comments. Although no trouble was caused last night the behaviour was disgusting! Lets hope that anybody that does bother to support the lads on Saturday has sobered up and is back to thier ususal supportive self!

 

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[Claire!]

Hmmmm, I wasn't there last night so can not comment on the football that was played. But reading the above explinations, i have to say that if a game isn't being played well, it probably doesn't help if the fans are ridiculing the players. It doesn't give the players very much support or enthusiasm.

 

I mean, yes it better if we win, and when we are winning, the fans spirits get lifted. But if we are not winning, maybe we should turn the senario around so that we, the fans, can lift the players spirits, and subconsiously help the team to play better?

 

Only a suggestion, but i think it is a much better way of supporting the team rather than booing, cussing the team, as done by fans at last nights game, (once again i was not there last night but i ma just going by the comments above).

 

Also, shouldn't the fans show themselves a bit of respect? I mean, if you lot are being idiotic toward that players, doesn't really make you lot look good, the other team are merly taking the mickey, and really do not respect the fans as much as they would do if you got behind the club.

[R Zimmerman]

That's all very well Claire but if people pay good money to travel to a match on a Tuesday night and the players simply don't perform then surely it is within their right to voice their disapproval.

[Claire!]

True, and i see your point, but a party is what you make of it. I know that people pay good money to see the games on a Tuesday, especially when they have to pay for transport to get there, and it does feel like a very big pi** take when the players don't perform as well as they should. I do get your point, and i do understand the majority's opinion, and why do you think i don't go to the games on a Tuesday night? It's not that i don't support the team, but to be quite honest i can't afford to travel/attend away games.

 

But if you do intend on going to away games, on a tuesday night, shouldn't you try to make it as fun as possible even if your team is loosing? Make it fun, have alugh, etc, because you payed good money to, and basically, if yuo start to sulk because your team is loosing, well that isn't going to do much good is it?

[Woody]

Last night. Difficult to know where to start. I just wonder what Awayday made of it all. I look forwardto his/her views with great anticipation.

 

There is no doubt in my mind that Canvey are the best side in this league and on this performance, will win it by some distance. We, on the other hand, were truly dreadful and could easily have lost by seven or eight. I think it probably went wrong from the very outset, by starting with a 4-5-1 set up. By playing this sort of formation, bent on containment, you are inviting yourself to be shot at, which, of course is exactly what happened.

 

With the exception of Wilmot and Deacon of the starting line -up (I am going to ignore the subs, as by then the game was already lost) the team played pitifully and were devoid of any guts and motivation whatsoever. It was simply not good enough. I can accept losing 4-0 but what I cannot accept is the way we lost. Certain players in this side need to take a good hard look at themselves, before deciding whether or not they are earning their keep.

[AFF]

Hi Woody.

 

I notice that Awayday's report is on the site. Once upon a time, Webbo or Rob would put a hand thing on the News section of the site to take the avid reader straight to the Report, but times change and standards slip.

 

Hi Helen and Clair.

 

Quite rightly, Clair declares thathe/she was not at the match last night and her comments on what was said/chanted/sung at the players was based solely upon Helen's summary.

 

Helen refers to 'obscene' comments. I was on the terraces behind the goal last night and I heard the 'usual' singing which was quickly fairly muted. I didn't hear any 'obscene' singing/chanting etc. At the start of the second half, a lone voice sang "You're not fit to wear the shirt, [repeat to fade]" which, whilst critical, could not be described as obscene.

 

Perhaps you could be a little more specific, Helen, [using asterisks etc.] Were you referring to one of the gels who regularly makes the away trips? I didn't hear that kind of thing last night, Helski.

 

 

[Rob_the_Saint]

The words of Awayday are now on the site.

 

I can't comment on last night because I wasn't there, but I can't help thinking the local lads that were released - Moran, Kean and Evans - at least had a sense of pride in playing for the Saints and always gave 100%.

 

The signs were there at the Hitchin game so I'm not altogether surprised.

[AFF]

Hi Rob.

 

The Hitchin game was dreadful football with both sides oplaying the long ball game. Since, the games against Heybridge and Hayes were much better with t'lads keeping the thing on the ground and we looked good in both games.

 

Last night was awful with a marked lack of passion and committment after the first 10 minutes. That chap Awayday has called it right for me.

[EFM's Librarian]

I generally tend to believe that negative comments only have a negative effect on the team. However, I also believe that yesterday was one of the rare occasions when the players needed to be told just how badly they were playing. I don't think anything said was particularly offensive.

 

If the players can't take a little bit of stick when they're playing that badly, perhaps they don't deserve to be paid as much of our hard-earned cash as they currently are? If I was a City player and I heard how annoyed the fans were, I'd like to think it would make me realise how badly I was playing, and would perhaps give me some extra incentive to pick up my game...but I may be wrong.

 

 

[EFM The Firm, The Voice]

I don't mind my team losing if they are giving 100% and getting beaten by a better team!

EFM are as a rule the first people to get behind the team, in fact they are normally the only people to get behind the team. Last night was a [****!!****] discrase and the players don't deserve a penny in wages after that crock'o'[****!!****]!

They don't like being abused, well tough [***!!***], last night they deserved it. We have players out there who have played 100's of games for pro clubs and as far as I can see it's time to put these players out to roost!

If they really have a problem with me having a go (and yes I started the "they are not fit to wear the shirt" chant), then I'll tell them to their faces, bring them on!

 

And fortinantly EFM are all at a wedding on Saturday so we have a bit of time to get over it!

 

If it carrys on like last night, heads will have to roll. We have a squad on paper as good as any in the league (except Canvey maybe), I bet we shell out wages to that effect as well.

Does anyone know Cookys full record as lone manager?

[ESG]

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EFM The Firm, The Voice said:

Does anyone know Cookys full record as lone manager?

yeah fkcuin [***!!***]

anyway u dont count as your a mere supporter!

[monkey boy]

Whats the view on deacon after lasts nite performance??

and Chris seeby? Thought our local boys gave there all where others didnt!!

 

should we start throwing in some Rezzies!!

 

[EFM Trev]

I'll put it this way. This is my 22nd season at Clarence Park. While I know as well everybody else that I'm not an "every game" person (as much these days due to the cost as anything else, but that's a different matter), I have very seldom felt as embarrassed to be a City fan as I did last night. The only thing I'm really pleased about is that I wasn't wearing a shirt myself.

 

I don't hurl random abuse at the players for no reason. If you think for one single second that they didn't deserve every single expletive that they had thrown at them last night, I'd suggest that you contact the Canvey club shop, and ask them to send on a copy of the match on video. City were wretched last night, and their performance made a mockery of all of us that made the trip down there last night. All of us. The team will get the reaction from the crowd that they deserve. Having wasted £13 on getting the train down there and £9 to get in, I am perfectly entitled to criticise them in whatever way I see fit. If the players don't like it, they can either buck their ideas up or make way for players that do care. If we lose with a bit of honour, then I'm as happy as anyone else. Last night, however, they didn't deserve our support.

[YELLOW]

I don't think the Canvey club shop does videos of the game.

 

Have to admit if I was a St Albans fan I would be very worried about the indiscipline of your side. Near the end your number 5 completely lost it with the ref over a petty decision. After getting booked needlessly he carried on arguing and looked at one stage if he was going to deck the ref!!

 

I can certainly understand your anger at your team after you've paid a load of money to travel down to Canvey and to get in and then watch a passionless performance.

 

I'm not sure what it is with St Albans but they seem to be scared of playing Canvey at Park Lane. There must be something wrong if a side loses 5-1, 6-1 and 4-0 in consecutive seasons in the same fixture.

The problem seems to be the negative approach to the game. It's like they know they are going to lose and it's a case of trying to keep the score down.

 

I don't think St Albans are a bad side and I don't really know if the result was done to Canvey being brilliant and St Albans being crap, probably a bit of both.

 

You certainly deserve better, definately with the calibre of players you have.

[CANV EFM]

i think with changing their usual system of play and maybe playing one or two key players out of position they made life very hard for themsleves.. one up front? they wouldnt normally play that way why change to something totally unfamiliar, maybe a goal at 2 nil or even 3 nil would have made a difference, it would at least have given the canvey defence somethign to worry about rather than setting up our next attack.. some teams in this league devote their entire season to one up front and defence, albans dont and shouldnt have on tuesday night.. much like we witnessed at stortford.. you have to keep the pressure on 'better' teams in all areas of the park

[Rob_the_Saint]

Couldn't agree more Canv. I can only assume Martin (who took a bad knock last Saturday) and McDonnell were carrying injuries leaving us with only one recognised striker available, although McDonnell, Jay Murray and Tomlinson were all on the bench. Mystifying, to say the least.

[GHA EFM]

McDonnell and Tomlinson both came on, Rob. McDonnell in the 44th minute, and Tomlinson around the hour mark.

 

The injuries can't have been that bad.

[Woody]

I don't think you'll find Murray was on the bench, Rob. There were only four substitutes - McDonnell, Seeby, Tomlinson and White. You would have thought they might have taken one of the reserves along for the experience to make up the five. Wouldn't have done any harm, in fact it would have been positively useful; there was no reserves game on the night anyway. As for Martin, I was told he had been attending a funeral.