Matches off - 16/11

[Terrence Collina]

 

TC

 

What months are the "fog months"???? Maybe a bell in the ball as well, like the betting advert - just remember to leave the cat at home

 

Apologies for the joint responses - credit crunch and all that so keeping costs down!

 

Don't know really, just thought it sounded good!

[DT10]

Well my youth team goalie who didn't get the message that the game was off turned up at the ground and guess what he said the pitch wasn't that wet!!

[duncs]

but did he say it was playable ?

[johnnojudo]

i doubt he would have been able to make a proper judgement with the lights off!

[Molly11]

Well my youth team goalie who didn't get the message that the game was off turned up at the ground and guess what he said the pitch wasn't that wet!!

 

 

Going to have a little bite here, as its about the 3rd time you've suggested we got the game called off for some other reason than the pitch UNPLAYABLE. 1. What time your keeper get? 4pm? it get dark at 5 and no one would of been there to turn the lights on for him! 2. We had two players injured on Sat but were going to play fringe players anyhow. 3. We're behind on games and need to get this game out of the way so we can concentrate on the league. And finally were in great form at the mo, hitting 25 goals in 4 games so why wouldnt we want to play?.....Maybe you were lucky it got called off.....BITE OVER, much love x

[Terrence Collina]

[DT10]

[duncs]

Molly11 why does everyone when asked this question get so defensive,if it was called off for legitimate reasons then thats the way it is.I still say you called it off to early and thats why some people (especially Sandhurst ) would be a litte sceptical.

[sparky100]

Molly11 why does everyone when asked this question get so defensive,if it was called off for legitimate reasons then thats the way it is.I still say you called it off to early and thats why some people (especially Sandhurst ) would be a litte sceptical.

 

 

The timing of the referees inspection was not our choice. It was down to what time a referee could inspect the pitch. Bearing in mind there are procedures in place set by the league that clubs have to abide by regarding pitch inspections. Having been at the ground at the time of the inspection and then again at 3.30pm there was very little difference in the state of the pitch and still some water lying in the central areas.

 

As Molly said we wanted to play the game as we are already behind other teams in games played in the league and we do not want a fixture pile up at the end of the season.

[duncs]

just say we at Cove really wanted to play a game and the weather forecast was good for the night of the match now to give this game every chance of going ahead I would leave it to the match officials to decide I certainly would not get it called off in the morning if I really wanted it played,who was the Ref who called it off so early there is to much of this going on I suggest the league step in with some up to date guidelines as the pitches nowadays drain away a lot quiker than they did even 10 years ago.

[Molly11]

Molly11 why does everyone when asked this question get so defensive,if it was called off for legitimate reasons then thats the way it is.I still say you called it off to early and thats why some people (especially Sandhurst ) would be a litte sceptical.

 

 

I felt the need to defend the club, as some people think there must be some other reason why a game gets called off. Personally i would rather get told the earlier the better as i have to arrange childcare. I get the point about it getting called off early, but surely its got to be better than leaving it to the last minute or even worst turning up and it being called off.

[duncs]

the trouble is Molly11 people are starting to get a little suspicious about all these games being called off,who am I to argue with a Refs decision but come on 8 hours before a ball was due to be kicked hmm.

[Footy Mad]

the trouble is Molly11 people are starting to get a little suspicious about all these games being called off,who am I to argue with a Refs decision but come on 8 hours before a ball was due to be kicked hmm.

 

Good point Duncs ..... who are you to argue with a refs decision???

[Molly11]

the trouble is Molly11 people are starting to get a little suspicious about all these games being called off,who am I to argue with a Refs decision but come on 8 hours before a ball was due to be kicked hmm.

 

 

Ok you got us, i'll own up we had 64 first teamers out and didnt know what to do, do we play all the Dads? or get the game called off early to really annoy everyone. The Dads said they wouldnt wear shinpads so the Ref had to call it off. I had to come clean it was killing me.

[johnnojudo]

there are arguments for and against for calling a game off very early in the day.

 

not every club has access to a 'local' referee who is willing to come down and make a decision on the pitch.

 

In my opinion, the match should always be given the best chance for it to go ahead. Unless the pitch is swimming in water or the ball doesnt roll properly, the game should go ahead! 8 hours before a game is too early in my opinion. I understand all pitches are different but there has to be a rule in place to stop games being called off too soon!

 

I'm not suggesting any club does this but..... all a club needs to have is a 'local' referee who is willing to take a back hander, and call the game off without actually inspecting the pitch properly and thus giving their injured players time to recover or if short of players that day.

 

Some will say, "whats the difference if a game gets called off, still gotta play it". The difference could be between a Saturday trip with not much traffic or a Tuesday night trip far far away!!

 

The only suitable thing to do would be to cap the time a pitch gets inspected. Say 4pm by a local referee if the pitch is doubtful!

 

This is surely the only way to avoid suspicion!!

[Footy Mad]

I would like to say that the referee who inspected both the South Park pitch and the Merstham pitch did so at that hour of the day because he was unavailable any later than that.

He was happy that given the state of both pitches and the likelihood of very little improvement there would be no chance of either pitch being suitable for football that evening. In an ideal world he would have preferred to inspect the pitches early afternoon but that was not possible.

He did not take the decision to call off either game lightly.

 

The same referee inspected 2 pitches the previous week, passing one pitch fit to play and failing the other one.

 

For travelling and inspecting 4 pitches he was given the grand sum of ..... nothing.

He was asked if he was owed something on 3 occasions but was not even asked on the other occasion.

 

He is more than happy to help clubs out where he can and as normal for a referee he expects to get a lot of stick for doing so

[johnnojudo]

and this is the whole point.....

 

what if a referee can only inspect a pitch the evening before a saturday match due to other commitments??

 

the pitch gets inspected and called off at 7pm friday night. Thats 20 hours before the match....... whats the acceptable cut off time in calling a match off??

 

Tuesday night match gets called off at 10am that morning. Thats 9 and a half hours early!!

 

There has to be some tolerance but surely not 9 hours~????

 

Thumbs up to the ref who did all that for free........ Sounds like a saint or a mug to me!!

 

 

 

[Footy Mad]

and this is the whole point.....

 

what if a referee can only inspect a pitch the evening before a saturday match due to other commitments??

 

the pitch gets inspected and called off at 7pm friday night. Thats 20 hours before the match....... whats the acceptable cut off time in calling a match off??

 

Tuesday night match gets called off at 10am that morning. Thats 9 and a half hours early!!

 

There has to be some tolerance but surely not 9 hours~????

 

Thumbs up to the ref who did all that for free........ Sounds like a saint or a mug to me!!

 

 

 

I agree that there should be criteria in place (if there isn't already) to state how long before a game a pitch inspection can take place

[Krooner]

It is one of the damned if you do and damned if you dont situations. If South Park had got a ref in at 4.30 and called it off there would of been moans about doing it too late. The use of local referees can help as they tend to know their local pitches quite well. If you take Cove and Camberley. If Cove's pitch is waterlogged at 9am there is a good chance it will be still at 3 whereas Camberley could well dry out. Not a go at Cove that is just how the respective pitches drain. So if Cove call a game off at 9 in the morning waterlogged I would not be at all suspicious but if Camberley did then I would be !!!

 

South Park did what they thought was best. Be interesting what they do next time !

[johnnojudo]

thats cos the water just sits on our FLAT but very bobbly, muddy, wet, pitch.

 

The rain water runs off the 45 degree slope at Krooner Park....