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[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

To not win against a side who are bottom of the table is bad.

 

To lose against a team who got beat 8-0 at the weekend is poor.

 

But tonights performance was totally shambolick.

 

We have now only picked up 1 point from the last 6 leauge games and all of them have been mid or lower leauge oposition.

 

It is now time for Bateman to go.

Edited November 9, 2010 by Staines-upon-Thames Rebel

[Irishadrian]

Yes I have to agree Just to recap on where we are We have now slipped down the league to 15th We havent kept a clean sheet all season No team in the league has lost more home games than us Our next opponents North Greenford have now overtaken us in the league and havent lost in their last 6 games including 4 clean sheets and just 2 goals conceded Anyone fancy our chances? before tonight Burnham had managed just 9 goals from 12 league games 3/4 of A goal per game and we concede 3 Bateman was quoted in last weeks press as saying the team he had assembled was capable of winning 10 on the trot He lives in a deluded fantasy world and should now consider his position

[Reading Rebel]

To not win against a side who are bottom of the table is bad.

 

To lose against a team who got beat 8-0 at the weekend is poor.

 

But tonights performance was totally shambolick.

 

We have now only picked up 1 point from the last 6 leauge games and all of them have been mid or lower leauge oposition.

 

It is now time for Bateman to go.

 

 

Was it Steve Bateman's fault that at least 2 of the 3 goals came from player errors and the other one from a handball?

 

At 2-1 I thought we started to play some good stuff until another mistake knocked us back.

 

If Bateman goes what would be the likely scenario?

 

At least 3 or 4 of the players will leave with him which would leave us even shorter than we are currently on player numbers.

 

You've then got the time factor of getting a new manager in and for that manager to bring in some new players. By that time we could be staring relegation in the face and there's no guarantee that the new manager would do any better and then it could be certain relegation.

 

IMO we need to give Steve Bateman the chance to turn things around and if it doesn't work out this season there's always the summer to change things.

 

We need a bit of common sense thinking rather than rash decisions.

[Matt]

Spot on Reading. Steve Bateman may well be considering his position after virtually promising play-offs again. But how would it really help us?

 

I'm as shocked as anyone at the moment. I don't know how things have gone so badly wrong after a good start. Something is wrong in the dressing room and needs to be put right. Having said that, I don't think anyone could have predicted that we'd give three gifts away to hand Burnham the win.

 

I personally thought tonight was a must-win to save our season. I think the playoffs are almost beyond us now as I don't think we can afford to lose more than 3 or 4 more league games in the rest of the season. And the way we're going at the moment, not only is scoring goals an issue, but we can't buy a clean sheet!

[Chris]

Lets be honest, Tuesday was very poor as has it been for quite a few games now.

 

I'm not sure anyone expected us to be sitting 15th in the league at this stage of the season and that's clearly not good enough. Should we not make play-off's this season it's a shambles to be honest. The probable truth at the start of the season is we were not good enough to win the league as Hitchin are the best team by a country mile in this division, but with the squad we have a second or third placed finish should be minimum for the quality of player we have in our squad compared to others. In my opinion the lack of quality in the division this year (no Bury, Chesham, Sutton, Burnham not what they were) it should have been between us and Arlesey for second. It will not be easy next year as well with the likes of St Neots & Chalfont probably coming into this league next season as well.

 

Tuesday frustrated me for a number of reasons. One of the main ones being the lack of fight a derby. I can't help thinking of the likes of Darron Wilkinson and Steve Daly in a game like this. It was crying out for someone to make a crunching tackle like Wilko to get us going, or a Steve Daly voice on the pitch to bellow 'Come on,not good enough' several times during the game, but it was just SO quiet and a bit of a non-event. That would have got the fans going as well.

 

I think Bates has put together a fine squad (and IMO is the right man for the job) but for some reason it's not gelling at all. Look at our players individally and i'm not sure that you could turn round and say 'rubbish player' to any of them, they are all good - but as a team not working at all.

 

Think people were so excited about this season as we made play-off's last year and there did not seem to be the need for wholesale changes. The obvious problem last season was central midfield. We got bullied there in many a game and that's one of the main reasons we lost the play-off final last year as Obeng, Talbot and Fotheringham were all over us like a rash. Bateman saw this and brought in the likes of Swift, Coyne and Logie this season. All high energy, tempo players that could fit into what we already have in place so many thought they were the missing pieces.

 

But that said, we did stumble to the play-off's a bit in the end. We were good up until xmas last year then lost the likes of NBH, Graeme Edwards and Chris Herron and then just about made it. Then we had the loss this season of Elliot was a huge factor. He not only scored goals, but held the ball up well which i'm not too sure that our other strikers are great at doing, so it comes back far too easily imo.

 

Long way in the season to go and plenty to fight for, but need to start winning and winning soon.

[Nathan]

I would like to clarify my position regarding my thoughts about the management, players, and my actions from behind the goal and on this forum.

 

I believe that getting rid of the management at this moment is not necessarily the right thing to do, BUT, how much longer should Bateman remain in the job if things carry on the way they are? We are certainly on relegation form at the moment, and are imminent danger of being dragged into a relegation dogfight (giving that we are on worse form than those beneath us). Bateman's time, whilst not up yet, is certainly runing out fast UNLESS he can show what he's shown little sign of doing so far and turning it around (and I really do hope he does for everybodies sake).

 

I mde my comments about some players not playing for the club again in anger, but I do stand by them as they didn't show any willing on Tuesday (albeit with 2 exceptions - Seeby and Sonner) for a crunch local derby that we really needed to win.

 

I understand that some people on this forum may think I do nothing but moan and be negative from behind the goal during games. Nothing could be further from the truth. I rarely shout in anger at some of the players during the game (and as I said on the other thread, I only ever shout at the players for a lack of effort). If however people want me to say only positive things, tell me what I am supposd to be positive about over the past six weeks and I will happily focus on only the positives.

 

I am also aware of how my posting when starting the other thread about the Burnham game can across as aggressive, but this I believe only shows how passionate I am about the team. I understand that I posted that with alot of emotion, but again I stand by what I said in the post.

 

NB - Windsor Rebel, I am sorry if you take offence about the way I express my opinions, but am I not entitled to express them every bit as much as everyone else? If you don't like what I say, by all means feel free to disagree , but please keep you posts objective, and I'll do the same. Please do not single me out for abuse, especially when they are several other posters on this forum saying broadly similar things to what I'm saying.

[Windsor Rebel]

I would like to clarify my position regarding my thoughts about the management, players, and my actions from behind the goal and on this forum.

 

I believe that getting rid of the management at this moment is not necessarily the right thing to do, BUT, how much longer should Bateman remain in the job if things carry on the way they are? We are certainly on relegation form at the moment, and are imminent danger of being dragged into a relegation dogfight (giving that we are on worse form than those beneath us). Bateman's time, whilst not up yet, is certainly runing out fast UNLESS he can show what he's shown little sign of doing so far and turning it around (and I really do hope he does for everybodies sake).

 

I mde my comments about some players not playing for the club again in anger, but I do stand by them as they didn't show any willing on Tuesday (albeit with 2 exceptions - Seeby and Sonner) for a crunch local derby that we really needed to win.

 

I understand that some people on this forum may think I do nothing but moan and be negative from behind the goal during games. Nothing could be further from the truth. I rarely shout in anger at some of the players during the game (and as I said on the other thread, I only ever shout at the players for a lack of effort). If however people want me to say only positive things, tell me what I am supposd to be positive about over the past six weeks and I will happily focus on only the positives.

 

I am also aware of how my posting when starting the other thread about the Burnham game can across as aggressive, but this I believe only shows how passionate I am about the team. I understand that I posted that with alot of emotion, but again I stand by what I said in the post.

 

NB - Windsor Rebel, I am sorry if you take offence about the way I express my opinions, but am I not entitled to express them every bit as much as everyone else? If you don't like what I say, by all means feel free to disagree , but please keep you posts objective, and I'll do the same. Please do not single me out for abuse, especially when they are several other posters on this forum saying broadly similar things to what I'm saying.

 

Nathan: I have taken on board the points stated above. Lets all hope for a win tomorrow, then hopefully we can put this bad run behind us and push on up the table,

as I am sure deep down thats what we all want, although we both express our views in different ways.

[Reading Rebel]

I would like to clarify my position regarding my thoughts about the management, players, and my actions from behind the goal and on this forum.

 

I believe that getting rid of the management at this moment is not necessarily the right thing to do, BUT, how much longer should Bateman remain in the job if things carry on the way they are? We are certainly on relegation form at the moment, and are imminent danger of being dragged into a relegation dogfight (giving that we are on worse form than those beneath us). Bateman's time, whilst not up yet, is certainly runing out fast UNLESS he can show what he's shown little sign of doing so far and turning it around (and I really do hope he does for everybodies sake).

 

I mde my comments about some players not playing for the club again in anger, but I do stand by them as they didn't show any willing on Tuesday (albeit with 2 exceptions - Seeby and Sonner) for a crunch local derby that we really needed to win.

 

I understand that some people on this forum may think I do nothing but moan and be negative from behind the goal during games. Nothing could be further from the truth. I rarely shout in anger at some of the players during the game (and as I said on the other thread, I only ever shout at the players for a lack of effort). If however people want me to say only positive things, tell me what I am supposd to be positive about over the past six weeks and I will happily focus on only the positives.

 

I am also aware of how my posting when starting the other thread about the Burnham game can across as aggressive, but this I believe only shows how passionate I am about the team. I understand that I posted that with alot of emotion, but again I stand by what I said in the post.

 

NB - Windsor Rebel, I am sorry if you take offence about the way I express my opinions, but am I not entitled to express them every bit as much as everyone else? If you don't like what I say, by all means feel free to disagree , but please keep you posts objective, and I'll do the same. Please do not single me out for abuse, especially when they are several other posters on this forum saying broadly similar things to what I'm saying.

 

 

Nathan,

 

from my point of view, I have no problem with supporters venting their anger on this forum after another defeat, everyones entitled to their opionion. What I think does get up peoples goat is when after match views just seem to be blurted out without seemingly much thought behind the comments.

 

Your original headline was 'utter crap' and (correct me if I'm wrong) was all doom and gloom. It certainly wasn't a good performance on Tuesday but certainly not the worst of the season and but for some poor goalkeeping we would have got something from the game.

 

Again, you say only Seeby and Sonner showed any willing. What about MoM Steve Sinclair do you not think he showed any willing?

 

I still maintain that the players are giving 100% but their confidence at the moment is rock bottom and when they read comments like they are utter crap and don't care if they win or lose will only make matters worse.