Rebels 2-3 Burnham

[Nathan]

Worst I display I have seen since the days of Steve Browne, and that includes the utter cluelessness and inactivity of the management.A very poor game fought by 2 very poor teams, with Slough being the worst team.This has gone on for far too long now. Bateman;s old boys are exactly that; OLD!!! Bateman has shown that he hasn't the ability to get in new ones, or mould them into a good team.Make no mistake, losing at home to the bottom team (who are pottless and crap themselves) is nothing short of an absolute disgrace, especially considering the manner of the defeat. After tonights display, there are certain players I won't shed any tears over tif they never played for the club again - absolutly NO passion, NO committment and NO desire.

[Mr Rebel]

well well well. simply stunned though whats new

 

in most part Burnham simply wanted it more than us like almost every team we play seems to. however at 2-1 they looked near enough out of it. their 2nd came from nowhere. blame will go with Perks BUT I and many i spoke to believed it was a blatant handball by Romeo for that goal. excuse but when so short of confidence that sort of thing turns the game completely

 

yet again though its ridiculous mistakes that has stolen points away from ourselves. how many times can a team shoot themselves in the foot??

 

both teams were dreadful for almost the whole game. basically a game of which keeper would make the most clangers and unfortunately Perks just edged it

[Ted]

We were the worse of 2 poor sides.

 

5 goals, all goalkeeper errors, little skill and a lack of passion from our players made it a poor match to watch, and the difference between the 2 sides came down to a mixture of who wanted it more, combined with a portion of 'which keeper would make the most [****!!****] ups'.

 

I've seen worse Slough sides over the last decade, but at least they tried. Too many of this lot are living off their reputations, or at least thats the way it seems to me as Burnham were poor, but somehow we managed to be worse as too many players just don't seem to be up for it.

 

Just when you thought that we couldn't possibly get a shorter line up of strikers, we somehow manage it. Now I'm sure Ben Abbey is a good player, but when we already have 3 short strikers, and it is clear we need some height and muscle, do we really need a fourth?

[Martin]

Compared to how clueless we were at times under the leadership of West, Wilko, Betts and Sweetman that performance wasn't that bad.

 

It was a game in which two sides low on confidence and short of form battled it out to be least worst. The reason we lost is three goal keeping howlers albeit one which was seemingly influenced by a handball.

 

Maybe we need a reality check. This time two seasons ago we were relegation fodder scrapping around lucky to get a point. We have since had a run to the playoffs which has raised expectations and now there has been a sharp down turn in performances. But we have to get real these players perform at this level for a reason they are not going to be able to perform consistently week in week out or year to year.

 

I am not trying to be an apologist for the players or management but they will have poor runs of form. I am extremely wary of a knee jerk reaction to this, it will lead to massive disruption and another two years floundering around at this level. All the best teams whether in the top leagues or around this level have stability and consistency in their management. Just look at the likes of Staines and Hampton. Steve has managed to get teams promoted consistently and he could still turn this round.

 

 

The next two games are massive and we need six points. Lets concentrate on getting behind the boys and cliche though it now is try and be positive rather than trying to dissect what is going wrong.

 

Come on Rebels!

 

 

[Reading Rebel]

Compared to how clueless we were at times under the leadership of West, Wilko, Betts and Sweetman that performance wasn't that bad.

 

It was a game in which two sides low on confidence and short of form battled it out to be least worst. The reason we lost is three goal keeping howlers albeit one which was seemingly influenced by a handball.

 

Maybe we need a reality check. This time two seasons ago we were relegation fodder scrapping around lucky to get a point. We have since had a run to the playoffs which has raised expectations and now there has been a sharp down turn in performances. But we have to get real these players perform at this level for a reason they are not going to be able to perform consistently week in week out or year to year.

 

I am not trying to be an apologist for the players or management but they will have poor runs of form. I am extremely wary of a knee jerk reaction to this, it will lead to massive disruption and another two years floundering around at this level. All the best teams whether in the top leagues or around this level have stability and consistency in their management. Just look at the likes of Staines and Hampton. Steve has managed to get teams promoted consistently and he could still turn this round.

 

 

The next two games are massive and we need six points. Lets concentrate on getting behind the boys and cliche though it now is try and be positive rather than trying to dissect what is going wrong.

 

Come on Rebels!

 

 

Totally agree Martin as I've stated on the other Slough/Burnham thread.

 

 

 

 

 

[Sue]

Well said Martin totally agree

 

 

[mrgh]

Didn't go last night, thankfully, wasn't too well and not too enthusiastic.

 

Compared to last season we have been poor and that is tremendously disappointing but I think Martin has made a very valid point rather well.

 

Keep the faith and come on you Rebels!

Edited November 10, 2010 by mrgh

[Rebel Yeller]

A few observations on last night :-

 

It must be obvious to even our management team now that neither of our keepers are much good. How many points have they cost us over the last two seasons between them. But for Perks we would have won last night but Jackson is equally culpable. Dodgy keeping contaminates the whole defence. I think a lot of our problems would be solved by simply getting a good keeper.

 

Ben Abbey - I was amazed when we ran out and was so small. Why is everyone who turns up to play for Slough so little. It cannot surely be difficult to find a tall forward or two. Lord knows every other team around seems to manage it. I'd love for Bateman to explain what he has against tall players. Is he size-ist ?

 

Towards the end of the game i distinctly heard Steve Perkins shout and encourage his team mates. I think that since Bateman arrived this is the first time i have heard a player or someone on the bench do this. Does Perkins not know that we don't do this. By doing this he was in severe danger of showing he cared about the result, which would never do. I'm sure Bateman took him to task after the game.

 

So what happens now ? No point sacking Bateman - all his mates would go as well and we would be worse off so he's here for the rest of the season. Carry on as we are and hope for a turn round in form - an option but how long can we wait. Or Bateman could carry out his programme threat of getting rid of some players and getting replacements. Trouble is that he wouldn't get rid of his mates so the likes of Coyne, Swift, Logie, Seeby would go and the replacements are likely to be more old mates, probably midgets, dwarfs and OAP's.

 

Still there is one crumb of comfort - well, no, there isn't actually

 

See you at North Greenford then.

[Mark44]

The point is we have been shown what sb is capable of from last season and what the team are capable of with these players.

 

 

Anyone who thinks bateman should go is an idiot. (however i do think Darren Salton was the brains )

 

Bateman has turned this team around from the hopeless derek sweetman era and I for one think the team will turn it around again. So we may not make the playoffs but so what, without a ground and a team nowhere near Slough would we really survive.

 

Probably not

 

All we want is a football ground in Slough, a football ground in Slough, a football ground in Slough

 

Then we can think of going up.

[Windsor Rebel]

Well said Martin and Mark44, some people on here have short memories. After what we achieved last season I am convinced Steve and the team will turn it around.

Anyone who knows anything about football (and that does not include you Nathan) would realise the stupidity of change at this point in the season.

[Matt]

Agree with most of the above, but not Mark's point about promotion. Just because we don't play at "home", I don't see why we shouldn't have the ambition to get promotion. Our crowds are decent enough, if not all that impressive these days. I think we'd survive perfectly well. Steve Bateman and the chairman obviously thought we were in a position to challenge - look at last season. Also the manager came out and said he was looking at finishing in the top 5 "at least" before the start of this season, so the ambition is there.

Edited November 10, 2010 by Matt

[HorshamRebel]

IMO we mainly have the right players and a management that CAN do the job.

 

What we don't have at the moment is the confidence to play as a team, especially when the opposition have the ball.

When confidence is low, the stuff learnt in training can be quickly forgotton as soon as a goal goes in against you.

 

Any team, at any level will revert to the "long ball" to get a goal back, even if they have dominated beforehand by passing the ball around.

 

 

When we have played well, we have kept our shape and players off the ball have been getting into positions to help out the player with the ball.

When we are playing well, that doesn't happen, and the player on the ball has no options, and therefore loses it.

 

 

This confidence can come from BOTH having a good team game, and from the supporters vocally supporting and encouraging them

[Mark44]

Hi Matt

 

I too agree that we are good enough to survive in the level above and my wording was probably wrong in the above post.

 

What I was trying to get across is that if we dont get promoted its not the end of the world but if we had a stadium and more income then I would expect us to get promoted easily.

[chris sliski]

For the last 15 mins I just could not bear to watch anymore ...

 

I went into the club Office ..and put the kettle on !

 

To say disapointed would be an under statement !

 

The embarrasement and the local pride has been dented ....

 

I know when things are going against you ..they really hit you ..

 

But what Martin has stated is so so true ...We have got to open our eyes and thank

 

our Chairman ..for getting us into a more sure footing and a possible future ..that we

 

will be all proud of , the paitence shown is second to none and we must try and keep our heads...

 

The team must start believing in themsleves and start playing as a team , like the supporters we also

 

are a team and must stick this horrendous patch of results out together...

 

Up the rebels..... Chris S

 

 

[A Rebel and a Saint]

It's just getting more and more frustrating. 6 points from the next 2 games are a must if we are to turn this season around. Yes expectations were raised after last season, but that is to be expected, especially with the better players that were brought in to improve the squad.

 

By the time we play the way we know we can (and we do for short spells of most games) we are either a goal or two down or something then happens where we concede a goal.

 

The ambition may be there, the playing squad is certainly there as possibly one of the best we have had in a long time, but the actual team is lacking. Last night we needed a win, but the defeat was so demoralising and you could see it on the faces of every supporter, player and the management team.

 

 

 

 

[grandad]

Whilst agreeing that a change of manager now would be futile, seeing some players out there who actually gave a damn would be nice. Sonner ran his socks off, and imo was mom by a country mile. Sincs ran alot. Abbey tried first half. That's about it for the positives. Three keeper errors for their three goals. Before anyone says it was a blatant handball, that is no excuse! I was wrong end to see, but you do not just stop and appeal for crying out loud, you play to the bloody whistle - thats schoolboy errors! Do not know how many of the players are local, I assume not many, but the management should have told them it was a local derby. To show what appeared to be a total lack of pride and commitment is bad enough, but in a derby is even worse. The badge says serve with honour......................

[Mark44]

I am not sticking up for the bad performances but i keep hearing people saying we have a better team now than last season. If we compare like for like from last nights game compared with a team who we could put out at the end of last year we have lost vital players who have not been replaced. The thing is i believe that the group we have now is good but we have lost so much height from our team. Looking before the game at the line ups I was wondering how we were ever going to win a header all night.

 

Anyway judge for yourself below:

 

Jacko for Perks

Sweeney for Perks

Perkinsfor NBH

Seeby for Seeby

Murphy for Murphy

Sincs for Sincs

Coyne for Edgeworth

Sam for Martin

Swift for Sharif

Sonner for Sonner

Abbey for Buchanan

 

I am not singling anyone out or saying anyone is [censored] but are we expecting too much

[hotspur]

It all about pride and attitude, if you call yourself a footballer then every time you take the field you should be trying, no matter how limited you are. If not then you should be replaced. As for small forwards, being small to my way of thinking means you have to be good to succeed at any level.I would think all the tall forwards that are good are at " good money paying clubs ". Having said that Ben Abbey was being courted by loads of clubs when at Crawley a few years back.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

A number of people are saying that we need six points from the next two games - what if that does not happen?

[Matt]

If I was a neutral looking at our situation, I'd wonder what the hell happened to a team who were challenging for promotion last season. Yes some good players have gone, but to me it's clear the problem is a mental one. Too much pressure perhaps, and a severe lack of confidence. This is an issue within the dressing room which only the management can address. I still have no doubt that most of the players are good enough individually - but the issue is whether SB and DA can get their minds sorted.