Burnham Game

[Mark44]

Ok guys so we all think that the team being played is wrong (including me) so who would we stick out against Burnham and why

 

My team would be as follows:

 

Jacko (Perks has not done anything wrong but Jacko would be more passionate in a local derby as he is from Slough)

 

Sweeney Seeby Yeboah Murphy (I do not think that our defence should be questioned and I think that the formation and way we play is hurting them)

 

Sinclair Bateman Coyne Swift Sonner (5 man mid to get the ball on the floor and play it about)

 

Thomas (big bulky striker who can hold up the ball and bring the likes of sincs and sonner into play )

 

I think we need to win by at least 2 goals so a confortable win and then we can get back on track

[Tom]

Your team is wrong as Thomas' loan has expired.

[Mark44]

Ok then Simon Martin or maybe Ben Abbey. Both are players who can hold the ball up well and bring others into play.

[Ian]

Your team is wrong as Thomas' loan has expired.

 

Our team was wrong with Thomas in it anyway.

[Mark44]

would you care to enlighten us as to who the right team is Ian?

[3spirit]

Ok guys so we all think that the team being played is wrong (including me) so who would we stick out against Burnham and why

 

My team would be as follows:

 

Jacko (Perks has not done anything wrong but Jacko would be more passionate in a local derby as he is from Slough)

 

Sweeney Seeby Yeboah Murphy (I do not think that our defence should be questioned and I think that the formation and way we play is hurting them)

 

Sinclair Bateman Coyne Swift Sonner (5 man mid to get the ball on the floor and play it about)

 

Thomas (big bulky striker who can hold up the ball and bring the likes of sincs and sonner into play )

 

I think we need to win by at least 2 goals so a confortable win and then we can get back on track

 

 

As we are at home and against the bottom side regardless of the 'derby' factor,we should be more adventurous than just playing one up front,as you're suggesting.

 

I would play a 3-5-2 which changes to a 5-3-2 when being attacked.My team would be:-

Perks.

Yeboah,Perkins[sweeper],Seeby -centre halves

Sweeney and Murphy -right and left wing backs.

Bateman,Coyne[holding midfield],Logie - midfield players.

As no Burnell,I would make an unusual move and play Stuart Swift with Simon Martin up front. Swifty knows how to score goals and I'm sure could be a handful to his ex-team. Simon Martin offers us an aerial threat/strong presence to Burnham's defenders.

Subs: Jackson,Sonner,Sippetts,Sinclair,Gumbs.

[Ian]

would you care to enlighten us as to who the right team is Ian?

 

I just know that it's wrong to have players who clearly do not want to be playing for the club and who tell supporters to "f**k off".

[Mark44]

I totally agree with you Ian but there is nobody else.

 

Does anybody know whats happened to Tom Windsor and Ben Abbey? why havent they been given a chance yet? surely if we signed them they are good enough or else if we signed them as fringe players we would prob be better off keeping robbie kean and Coc?

[Rebel Yeller]

I think the above posts show just why we are struggling. It's a lack of resource.

 

When you look who we have in the 3spirit team above we have :-

 

Perkins - has I think yet to complete a whole game. Looks completely unfit and appears to be struggling all the time

 

Coyne - a huge disappointment. Cannot pass to his teammates more than 2 times out of ten.

 

Martin - as was recently posted, can be outjumped by Sonner.

 

Gumbs - with due respect to Roy he's a coach, he shouldn't need to be selected, let alone called on to play.

 

Sinclair -3spirit puts him on the bench but pre-Erith he was the one on fire. Has he fallen so far down the pecking order.

 

Unfortunately this year's youth side don't appear to be as good as last year's. Maybe some were put off when no first team chances came their way.

 

If funds don't stretch to more players then someone at the club should say so. Supporters would understand - most of us have cheered the team in 8-0 and 9-0 defeats. If what we have is what we'll have for this season then fine, we'll make the most of it. Expectation has made us want for better, but if better is not available then just say so.

[Sue]

Dont agree thought Perkin's played well on Sat.

 

I also thought we played well in the first half, so just goes to see we all see game differently

 

 

 

 

 

[Tom]

Agree with Sue. Perkins performance in midfield was particularly good in the first half and I think went part way to explaining the good performance and period of dominance in the first half on Saturday.

[Mr Rebel]

any win will do regardless of it being bottom of the league and Burnham. the fact is we are leaking goals so maybe a more cautious formation to get a proper footing would be a good idea i dont know.

 

i too thought Perkins did pretty well although clearly not at top fitness. we already had a striker on the wing and the only other option with what we had was to play Seeby there with Perkins in defence so why so many were on Perkins back i have no clue.

 

Perks

Sweeney Yeboah Seeby Murphy

Logie Coyne Bateman

Sinclair and 2 of Sippetts/Martin/Sonner

 

at the end of the day whatever we say on here won't matter for what happens on the pitch. something different has to be done though i suppose as what we have been doing hasnt worked for some time now.

 

if Logie is fit hopefully we can get him sitting and Bateman and Coyne supporting the attack. Swift may play if around though i guess

 

don't know why i posted really as like i say it won't improve our performances and whoever we pick tomorrow i will be right behind the lads hoping and wishing we can get a win

 

COME ON YOU REBELS!!!

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Its not a lack of funds, it is Bateman bringing in his "old boys" on top dollar money and them not playing to that level.

 

This also causes divisions in the dressing room.

 

How many ex Hemel players, and players Bateman has managed before are in the team?

 

He only works within his comfort zone, and does not strive to move forward - we have reached his upper limits at the end of last season and he has now run out of new ideas, i.e. no "plan B".

 

Unless he has had a rocket from the chairman expect more of the same old "plan A" tommorrow!

[3spirit]

I think the above posts show just why we are struggling. It's a lack of resource.

 

When you look who we have in the 3spirit team above we have :-

 

Perkins - has I think yet to complete a whole game. Looks completely unfit and appears to be struggling all the time

 

Coyne - a huge disappointment. Cannot pass to his teammates more than 2 times out of ten.

 

Martin - as was recently posted, can be outjumped by Sonner.

 

Gumbs - with due respect to Roy he's a coach, he shouldn't need to be selected, let alone called on to play.

 

Sinclair -3spirit puts him on the bench but pre-Erith he was the one on fire. Has he fallen so far down the pecking order.

 

Unfortunately this year's youth side don't appear to be as good as last year's. Maybe some were put off when no first team chances came their way.

 

If funds don't stretch to more players then someone at the club should say so. Supporters would understand - most of us have cheered the team in 8-0 and 9-0 defeats. If what we have is what we'll have for this season then fine, we'll make the most of it. Expectation has made us want for better, but if better is not available then just say so.

 

 

Just to add to your points,I only put Gumbs on my subs bench because I couldn't think of anyone else available.Forgot Tom Windsor,but would stick with Roy for the Burnham game,due to the fact,he may score us a goal and the notion that we have cover for most positions.As mentioned before Robbie Kean or Craig O'Connor or Dean Harper would have been a better bet,if we hadn't let them go so prematurely.

Still of an opinion though,that we should have some younger,cheaper options for subs bench[one or two] .

Roy Gumbs and John Lawford shouldn't be an option.

 

Steve Perkins is/was a class player but the severity of his injuries have stacked up against him and he's finding it hard to complete games.Playing in the centre of midfield is probably where you have to be at your fittest.This is why I think he would make an ideal sweeper especially with his experience,playing the Gary McGinnis role like Slough's successful Conference side under Brian McDermott.This would also counteract the fast direct attacking opposing forward,getting between our centre backs,Yeboah and Seeby,plus help our defence cope with our sometimes missing midfield !.

 

I like Steve Sinclair but sometimes get frustrated with him when he holds onto the ball too long and greedily takes on too many players too often.Nobody minds his skill, if only he could vary his play from time to time,he would definitely be in my team.However,what a great player to come on,if needing an impact,just like Sean Sonnor and Gary Sippetts are.

The best thing about this current Slough squad is that most of the players can play in different positions if needed ie Simon Sweeney as a centre -half or Adam Logie as a centre half or sitting behind the front two,as could Steve Sinclair playing a floating role rather than being stuck on the wing.

 

You say,Rebel Yeller,that Sean Sonner regularly outjumps Simon Martin but to my mind,they both bring different talents/dimensions to the team.Unfortunately,both are suffering from a lack of confidence in putting the ball in the net. There understandably seems to be a crisis of confidence throughout the team due to our recent results but a slight tinkering with our shape and tactics and the odd change of personel could soon alter this.The team/management and the supporters need to stand together and encourage from the sidelines rather than criticizing,if we are to get out of this free fall.

This forum's the place to do the moaning and place our opinions!

Come on you,Rebels ! Onward and upward !

[Irishadrian]

Just to add an extra bit of interest to tomorrows game There are currently just 2 teams in the whole league who have failed to keep a single clean sheet in the league so far this season Yes youve guessed it Burnham and Slough Lets hope we can bring that down to 1 tommorrow

[Ian]

The subject of managers using the same players at various clubs is interesting. It certainly isn't limited to Steve Bateman. Steve Browne had a whole host of players who followed him about as has Jarvis and others too.

 

What's intersting though is why we cannot keep a squad together that provides us with sufficient cover. It shouldn't be hard surely so why can't we do it? Maybe the point several people have raised here about being too loyal to players is the problem. For example, would Dean Harper, Craig O'Connnor and others have hung around if they thought they'd get their chance or did they ask to move on because they knew the same players would always get picked irrespective? It baffles me why we cannot put together a big enough group of players which means we don't have to have coaching staff warming the bench.

 

Surely sqaud players, young or old have to believe that if they get a chance they'll be picked and if they perform they'll stay in the team. Otherwise, why bother staying? Maybe that's why we struggle?

 

PS. Huge credit to Simon Martin in this respect who knows he isn't first choice but always tried his best when given the occasional opportunity.

 

 

[Reading Rebel]

Agree with Sue. Perkins performance in midfield was particularly good in the first half and I think went part way to explaining the good performance and period of dominance in the first half on Saturday.

 

 

As Sue said it's all about opinions.

 

I thought Perkins did reasonably well, dwelt on the ball a few times and lost it as a consequence and was generally a bit slow around the pitch.

 

I also thought the mid-field was again, wide open at times with Rugby having plenty of time and space when on the counter attack.

[Sue]

Just another thought, some players that people have mentioned on here that could of played i.e Tony Mendy Tom Windsor etc

 

Maybe just maybe they couldnt make Sat for some reason or didnt turn up. Remember these guys are just like us and they might have work or family comittments. I think sometimes we need to give Steve Bateman the benefit of the doubt that he just didnt have players available to him.

 

 

[Mark44]

Im willing to give Steve Bateman a chance for the odd game but in truth this has been going on for weeks where out of form players are being played and players like Mendy are not getting a look in.

 

I think we need to have more squad rotation to make competition for places as at the moment I can pick the starting 11 tonight and probably get 9 or 10 right. The problem comes because this is the same starting 11 who have won 3 games in 13 and two of those have been cup games!!!!!!!!