Remember the name

[Mewcenary]

Hi,

 

http://extricate.org/2010/09/09/remember-the-name/

 

This is an article on names which is really for referees but you may find it of interest.  A combination of tips on memory (to actually remember the damn things!) and when it is good to be using them.

 

Players, how do you tend to feel when referees are using your name?  Over familiar?  A good idea?  It varies?  What style are you after anyway?

 

Over to you...

 

 

[The Fan]

I have always found that when refs use 1st names, all is well until, said player scores. then the oppo start to call your impartiality into question.

[Terrence Collina]

its a risky one, especially if the ref knows the names of one side, but not the other. Captains names is fine and I go back to the guy for the FA Cup match at Walton and Hersham. The ref introduced himself as Mo and said I am happy for you to address me as Mo. Its nice so that you are not shouting Ref and likwise the Ref is not shouting back Skip.

 

What I hate the most is Fella. 99% of the time said in the wrong tone and makes the official come across as arrogant and treats the players as beneath them.

[Mewcenary]

Ah, impartiality.  That is a great point that I should have mentioned.  That's why I love this forum and so many different opinions coming through!

[Krooner]

Is that right TC ? I tend to use fella quite a lot. Would be interested to know other players views as I may have to try and change if I can as it is habit.

[steve]

Names,fella or anything else was fine with me as a player but as a manager i react better when a referee uses my first name.

The main issue is the tone the refereee speaks to a player in not what he calls him.

You will get some players that this does not adhere to but human nature usually means you will react and behave differntly depending how your spoken to or treated. (not just in football)

The phrase to commonly heard from "officials is shut up and go away". This only infuriates a situation.

At our recent game against Hanworth Villa one of their subs appealed a decision and the ref came across and booked him. After doing this he then said "now shut your mouth and sit down"

The hanworth manager then reacted by saying "dont talk to my player like that " and was sent off ! A situatuion that should never have happened and given the right verbal approach would not have.

The best ref's and officilas are the ones that speak to you in the right way. Even if you dont agree with the decision it is much easier to except.

 

Good examples: The ref last night gave a very harsh penalty against us and when talking to him at half time although i did not agree i excepted his opinion because he gave an honest view and spoke to me in a very polite manner (as did i )

 

The ref Saturday against Epsom (also the lino last night) Spoke in the right manner, spoke to the players the right way and had quite good banter. Decent bloke and very good ref.

 

Last year against Colliers Wood: Disputed a decsion and the ref came over and said " for what its worth i think i got that wrong"

The only response i gave was "fair play ref" He gained instant respect for that

 

As you all know i am no angel on the touchline and sometimes can get caught up in the heat of the moment but an official that has good cummunication skills makes a big difference.

It certainly works with me

[johnnojudo]

Agree with Steve.

 

There's never any need for rudeness in the way you speak to somebody. When i make a mistake on the field i would usually put my hand up as a sign of an apology to my team mates.

 

When a ref makes a mistake or knows he may have got something wrong it's good when he admits his error. It also works much better if a referee tries to explain why he gave his decision. If there is a break in play i would expect him to speak to me as captain. I would also prefer a referee to be honest and say that he didnt have a good view or didnt see the incident rather than not say anything or make up some crappy excuse!! Good communication with the players goes a long way.

 

I also have no problem with the referee referring to us by our name or nick name. It very much helps to diffuse a situation.

 

I dont like to be called fella on the pitch, just as a ref doesnt like to be called cheat! My name or my number will do thanks!

[Smudge]

Agree with Steve.

 

There's never any need for rudeness in the way you speak to somebody. When i make a mistake on the field i would usually put my hand up as a sign of an apology to my team mates.

 

When a ref makes a mistake or knows he may have got something wrong it's good when he admits his error. It also works much better if a referee tries to explain why he gave his decision. If there is a break in play i would expect him to speak to me as captain. I would also prefer a referee to be honest and say that he didnt have a good view or didnt see the incident rather than not say anything or make up some crappy excuse!! Good communication with the players goes a long way.

 

I also have no problem with the referee referring to us by our name or nick name. It very much helps to diffuse a situation.

 

I dont like to be called fella on the pitch, just as a ref doesnt like to be called cheat! My name or my number will do thanks!

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Rehab for Kroons it seems,Padraig Harrington needs to go as well.erm,erm, erm,YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,another hard one to eradicate.Kroons wont be down Dorking Ladies officiating,come here fella would not go down well.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Smudge

[Krooner]

I started using Fella cos I found using a number a little impersonal. From this point I will do my utmost not to use Fella. Thanks for that guys.

 

In return I will give you my bug bear. I alway stry and be polite with players. What I really do not like is when I am asked a question. As I try to answer it the player will just start arguing, a good deal of them politely but as I had listened to their question they should have the politeness to hear my answer. The quesiton, more often than not, is asked because they do not like the decision and we are never going to agree. If you ask a question allow me to answer and then do not ask the same question straight away

 

 

[steve]

I started using Fella cos I found using a number a little impersonal. From this point I will do my utmost not to use Fella. Thanks for that guys.

 

In return I will give you my bug bear. I alway stry and be polite with players. What I really do not like is when I am asked a question. As I try to answer it the player will just start arguing, a good deal of them politely but as I had listened to their question they should have the politeness to hear my answer. The quesiton, more often than not, is asked because they do not like the decision and we are never going to agree. If you ask a question allow me to answer and then do not ask the same question straight away

 

 

Nice post Fella !

[johnnojudo]

cheat !

[MiddleMan]

I have refereed for 25+ years, including on CCFL when they were knowm as the 'Dan Dare League'. I have been through the whole gambit of referring to players as 'fella', 'chap', 'friend', 'mate', or by their christian name. Regretfully the kind of response I had was 'I'm not your mate/friend' or similar. I now refer to players as 'red 10' etc. Sounds very impersonal, I agree, but removes a lot of the adverse comments received over the years. Unfortunately some players think you are trying to 'wind them up' by being too familiar. The more important point is to treat players with respect, and hope you can earn their respect by officiating in a firm but fair way.

[Terrence Collina]

My personal opinion for fella, especially when a snotty 18 yr old busy lino uses it. I think most players expected to be called by their number (apart from the goalie).

[Big J R]

'Excuse me Sir, would mind awfully if I asked you to pop over here, in your own time, so that we might have a nice little chat ?'

 

 

[Footy Mad]

I was on the line once for a referee who was displeased by the challenge of the full back.

 

He shouted at him "Oi number 3, get your [****!!****] over here".

 

No one battered an eyelid except me. Think I was the most shocked person there

[Weeble]

I think "fella" is looked upon as a "hard nut " option and I prefer 1st name terms for the management and skipper and numbers for all others..