Make Your Mark on Hartsdown Park

[Wellsie]

Margate Football Club are re-launching Make Your Mark on Hartsdown Park and looking to validate the purchases of bricks under the previous scheme. See margate-fc.com for details.

 

 

[michael]

A really first class PR move from the club imo.

 

I seem to recall a few threads on here about 6 months ago 'doubting' the club over this.

 

top knotch effort to restore the faith

[marksandwell]

Will we still be able to buy now??

[Wellsie]

My understanding is yes but the first stage is to validate all previous purchases.

[Brickie]

A really first class PR move from the club imo.

 

I seem to recall a few threads on here about 6 months ago 'doubting' the club over this.

 

top knotch effort to restore the faith

 

 

Considering the initial offer turn out to be a massive own goal i can't see how finally reassuring the original buyers some seven years later can be considered a first class PR move, the best thing the club could have done would have been to refund those people until they knew things would happen and to expect people to produce a reciept after all this time is hardly great PR either, are we to assume from that they've not keep the records of whos money they took themselves?

 

Hardly an exercise designed to restore faith imo.

[Benjammin]

Totally agree with brickie.

 

It appears the club don't even have a record of those who purchased a brick the first time round (as i did).

[Wellsie]

So here's your chance to put things right - that's certainly what the club are trying to do. All you need to do, is register the details of your orighinal purchase in the way we have asked, and we'll hopefully sort it out. Surely it's better than just ignoring it?

 

And actually, it IS one of many things going on, to not only try to restore faith, but build it too. More important annoncements (on the back of a lot of hard work) to come over the next few weeks to demonstrate that.

 

 

[margateshot]

Good post Steve

[Benjammin]

So here's your chance to put things right - that's certainly what the club are trying to do. All you need to do, is register the details of your orighinal purchase in the way we have asked, and we'll hopefully sort it out. Surely it's better than just ignoring it?

 

And actually, it IS one of many things going on, to not only try to restore faith, but build it too. More important annoncements (on the back of a lot of hard work) to come over the next few weeks to demonstrate that.

 

 

 

Ok I agree that it's better than just ignoring it and I will put things right (if I can find some proof of purchase after all these years).

 

Maybe it's just me but they way I read your post wellsie and apologies to you if you didn't mean it to sound this way, but you sound like your doing me a favour by letting me finally have something I paid for many years ago and the club did ignore.

 

Anyway good luck with future projects for the club.

[Brickie]

Its not just you Benjammin, it does kinda read that way, especially the "So heres your chance to put things right" statement which to me implies that they still don't see that its down to them and the "we'll hopefully sort it out" one doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either.

I'm amazed to see how the club has put the onus the fans to validate their order when proper records obviously haven't been kept by the club.

Probably left it a little late to try and restore faith in this venture and the way its been handled over the last seven years would definately have discouraged others from putting their money into similar fund raising ideas.

[Franny]

So here's your chance to put things right - that's certainly what the club are trying to do. All you need to do, is register the details of your orighinal purchase in the way we have asked, and we'll hopefully sort it out. Surely it's better than just ignoring it?

 

And actually, it IS one of many things going on, to not only try to restore faith, but build it too. More important annoncements (on the back of a lot of hard work) to come over the next few weeks to demonstrate that.

 

 

If the redevelopment of the ground wasnt going ahead I have no doubt that the scheme would have been ignored though. It seems now the club feel they may have to right a wrong before being in a position to ask the fans to put more money in via this and other schemes. I doubt many people have details of their original purchase ( I know I dont ) , a couple of people I have spoken to said they might just want their money back instead, which understandable in the circumstances.

[michael]

Everyone has their own view-unfortunately-we don't live in a perfect world-and i don't know too many businesses which are perfect.

 

We all get things that rub us up the wrong way-so i can understand that on this matter-some are maybe more uptight than others like me who are fairly relaxed over this.

 

whats my worst way 'loss' ?- (and to me the implication is that i won't have a loss anyway )The cost of one brick/donation to the club at whatever was paid 6 years ago-can't remember-was it about £15.

whats the worst we have done-donated £15 to the club we all support ?

 

if i or your good selves were really worried about it-would we not have been doing something about it over the last 6 years-so when 'reminded' by the club-is it fair to now make an issue of it ?

 

I read the message somewhat differently-seems to me the club is saying-'so we don't get our leg taken up by too many people-can you help us out a bit here,and if you have got details-that would really help'.

 

Is that too much to ask from ourselves when the club relies mainly on its administration from volunteers; and when there have been a few other things going on it the last 6 or so years?

 

Is the ever so slightly bigger picture/message here that maybe just maybe-some development work may occur in the next 6 months or so.

Edited June 19, 2010 by michael

[Wellsie]

My comment; "so put things right" is about putting things right for yourselves, not the club. If you don't have "proof" of purchase, that doesn't stop you making a claim using as much info as you have. The club will do what it can to match claims with their own records. But, we will also do what we can to make sure fruadulant claims are ignored.

 

I say again, if you did purchase a brick under the original sheme and you would like that recognised in the new development, make the claim. If you did, and you don't, then frankly why complain. The original scheme was put in place in good faith. At last, we have a development that looks set to take place. Now the club are trying to make good the original scheme. I don't understand why that's not seen as a psoitive step. But there we go; whatever the club tries to do, some people seem set to look for faults and problems. Thankfully, they seem to be a very small minority.

[Brickie]

My comment; "so put things right" is about putting things right for yourselves, not the club. If you don't have "proof" of purchase, that doesn't stop you making a claim using as much info as you have. The club will do what it can to match claims with their own records. But, we will also do what we can to make sure fruadulant claims are ignored.

 

I say again, if you did purchase a brick under the original sheme and you would like that recognised in the new development, make the claim. If you did, and you don't, then frankly why complain. The original scheme was put in place in good faith. At last, we have a development that looks set to take place. Now the club are trying to make good the original scheme. I don't understand why that's not seen as a psoitive step. But there we go; whatever the club tries to do, some people seem set to look for faults and problems. Thankfully, they seem to be a very small minority.

Your comment was" Your chance to put things right" implying fault on the fans part and as holders of the money and as you claim their own records shouldn't the club be contacting those who's money they'd have taken themselves?

Surely if there are proper records available how can anybody make a fraudulant claim?

The fact that the club are finally trying to make amends for the shoddy way this has been handled in the past is more down to the fact that it wants to restart the scheme and probably realises that previous buyers could put a spanner in the works.

The news that the redevelopment may now finally go ahead is a positive step but as you'll understand many here will take that news with a pinch of salt.

If you think that by alienating those that express an opinion on this matter the club will seem blameless, it won't and maybe you should look a little closer to home for those you described in your last sentence, a close friend perhaps!

[Broadstairs Dave]

This thread is like a game of tennis serves and return but not going anywhere.

 

IMO it was just a polite request to put the record straight.

 

Lets do the simple thing and do just that.

 

We are all here to support the Club!

 

Up the Gate

[marksandwell]

If anyone has a spare brick, i might need it next wednesday at arond 4.45pm. Thanks......

[Benjammin]

My comment; "so put things right" is about putting things right for yourselves, not the club. If you don't have "proof" of purchase, that doesn't stop you making a claim using as much info as you have. The club will do what it can to match claims with their own records. But, we will also do what we can to make sure fruadulant claims are ignored.

 

I say again, if you did purchase a brick under the original sheme and you would like that recognised in the new development, make the claim. If you did, and you don't, then frankly why complain. The original scheme was put in place in good faith. At last, we have a development that looks set to take place. Now the club are trying to make good the original scheme. I don't understand why that's not seen as a psoitive step. But there we go; whatever the club tries to do, some people seem set to look for faults and problems. Thankfully, they seem to be a very small minority.

 

Believe me i'm an easy going guy and i'm not looking for faults and problems, and as michael rightly says it's not the amount of money I spent (The bricks were £35 pounds I puchased two lol).

 

In fact the whole brick business has been a running joke between me and friends who attend the matches and we've had a good old laugh about the whole thing over the years (Although i've taken more stick over buying the life-time season ticket for £1000 that was on offer around the same time as buying the bricks, but i don't regret it for one moment).

 

I want nothing but success for Margate FC and have never suggested that the move by the club is not a positive step but once again I'm slightly puturbed by the 'i should be greatful or keep my mouth shut' tone in wellies post.

 

I'll leave it now and will continue to support Margate FC and any schemes to move the club forward.

Edited June 20, 2010 by Benjammin

[Wellsie]

Point of clarification on this - perhaps my original release was not clear enough. The club does have a record of who we believe purchased a brick but want to make absolutely sure we don't miss anyone out; hence the request. If someone does make a claim that isn't on the list, then clearly it would be helpful to have some sort of evidence of purchase.

 

On a pesonal note, I realise this is an open forum and long may it continue. The "I should be greatful or keep my mouth shut tone" was certainly not intended but I stand by my personal opinion - to which I think I'm equally entitled - that "some people seem set to look for faults and problems." And in that - based on my assumption about who you're are talking about Brickie, yes, I think JJ's post on here is illjudged.

 

In the meantime, more very good news follows later today. Watch this ..... well, another space.