Trivial Pursuit

[EUFC superb]

Do you mean final as in final round. Or final as in the big tournament after the qualifying rounds?

[Stu M]

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gnfc superb said:
Do you mean final as in final round. Or final as in the big tournament after the qualifying rounds?

Indeed, I'm a bit stumped, cos unless there's a bit of a trick question going on and I'm too dim to see it (which is VERY possible!), the Italians were the first team to play in two finals - 34 and 38.

[Yellow Bungle]

I mean the final, as in the game where the winners get the cup, as opposed to the final tournament or the final game - sometimes the third place match. For 1950 this would be the Uruguay v Brazil game rather than the Final Pool.

 

There is no trick, and yes, Italy were the first country to play in two finals, but there is an obvious answer as to why the first player to play in two finals did not necessarily play in both these matches.

[cantos]

Enrico Guaita --Argentina 1930 Italy 1934

[Yellow Bungle]

Close, but Guaita didn't paly in 1930.

[cantos]

Raimundo Orsi -Argentina 1930 Italy 1934

[EUFC superb]

But on a website it said that Giuseppe Meazza played in both I myself am stumped

[cantos]

Am i right bungle

[Yellow Bungle]

You've missed the third Italian Argentine, the one who played in 1930.

[Yellow Bungle]

Meazza played in 1934 & 38, as did Ferrari, but not in 1930. You looking for a "disabled" Argentine.

[cantos]

My mistake Orsi played for Argintina in Olympics.

 

Luisito Monti

[Stu M]

So what's going on? Some Italians swapping sides and vice versa?! Funny that!! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Harry J Allstars]

The answer is in fact Monti. I don't know his first name.

 

Coincidently Raimondo Orsi was born in Argentina but scored the goal to level the score for Italy against Czechoslovakia.

 

Does that make it my turn?

 

EDITED: No becuause Cantos got in there before me.

[cantos]

Assuming i'm correct i'll set a question.

 

What is the oldest surviving Test Cricket Record and what other exsisting record happened in the same match?

[Yellow Bungle]

Yes, Luisito Monti. Apparently he was missing part of his arm.

[Martin]

The oldest surviving record I can find is narrowest winning margin by wickets which was a 1 wicket victory by England against Australia in 1902 at the Oval although this has subsequently been matched several times.

[cantos]

Incorrect

[EUFC superb]

Says all the records here - thats the most I can find ass well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_cricket_records

[cantos]

They are both individual records and before 1902.

 

Not listed on link website but are in the Wisden Almanak.

Not the most obvios records.

[Martin]

Ok thank god for the internet.

 

The oldest debutant was J Southerton for Eng v Aus at Melbourne in 1876/77 at 49 years and 119 days.

 

In the same match Charles Bannerman scored 165 not out which was the highest individual score at the time and in scoring 67.3% of the Australian runs in the innings he holds the record for greatest percentage contribution for a completed innings.