Todays game

[Woody SUFC]

We didnt score. They did. But thats only half the story!

 

They had so many yellow cards that i wouldnt be susprised if they get some sort of fine and how that 9 stayed on is beyond me. If he was a windsor player i certainly would never applaud him off the pitch.

 

The ref bottled it. Never had game in control. If he did i dare say it would of been a different result.

 

Next game...

[sparksy]

i agree the ref was poor and missed some big decisions mainly the challenge on bully which should have seen a red! There were some really poor challenges and the ref should have been stronger. But that said todays performance was the worst that i can remember from Windsor! We didn't win hardly any challenges in the air or on the ground and when we did get the ball we simply failed to hold on to it! Shouldn't complain to much its been such a great season and no doubt we'll be back on track tuesday!

[Rother]

Bullivant's absence could well unsettle the team - could get real scrappy from here on in.

 

Anyone hear an early prognosis on how many weeks he might miss?

[cirenpylonsider]

Bullivant's absence could well unsettle the team - could get real scrappy from here on in.

 

Anyone hear an early prognosis on how many weeks he might miss?

 

Talked to Mr Bullivant on my way out of the ground this evening - not comfortable he was, he said it was likely ligaments. Not good news for youse because he twice made very important stops first half and if he is out for some time you obviously will miss him. Good keeps, him. BUT, we'se play Totton next week and believe me if there is any team we really want to beat it is them. We shall see.

 

One point on the comments - when Bullivant was injured Bevan was chasing a through ball, Bullivant was first but he got hit by Bevan purely because at the critical moment Bevan was shoved in the back by Wharton - the 4. Both got caught in the collision. To be honest I could not see exactly cos it happened so fast, though I was level with the penalty area that end, who really did get the ball first and who collided with whom.

 

But, the reality is if Wharton had not got involved with a shove maybe the collision would not have happened. Silly on his part because before it all happened there was no way Jody was going to get there first. Bless, he is not that quick! Eager, yes. That Quick, no.

 

On a side note thanks to Woody for the Albert alert - we had a good prematch in there, in spite of half a dozen others finding themselves in the Duke of York wot with them being slow off the coach and blindly following Keith the Coach Driver .....

 

Right - home now; got to get me head together and find some words for the press reports. Should have our web one done late Sunday, when my niece has finally got her bits and pieces together and gone.

 

ps Youse will still nick it - by far the best team in the league this year - but I do hope you don't have a crisis of confidence now, with so few games to go

[Stag Whippet]

See you next week, do you speak english ?

[sparksy]

Can someone please explain to me why we don't have a reserve goalkeeper on the bench! I find it stange that we risk putting an outfield player in goal if Bully gets injured. I know its a case of after the horse has bolted this morning but i have commented before about it and now its actually happened! I'm not saying it cost us the game in itself but i'm sure it was on the players minds in the second half. To be fair to the [sub keeper] he did produce the most entertaining moment of the match with the triple save two of them with his feet! I think the ball bobbling on the divet when Chenns was clean through just about summed the day up. It just waqsn't meant to be yesterday.

[Woody SUFC]

Can someone please explain to me why we don't have a reserve goalkeeper on the bench!

 

The fact his hand is broken might have something to do with it!! As far as i know the 'ressie' side is really a youth team so they are not ready yet for the step up.

 

The triple save was indeed one of the funiest moments down the meadow for a while! I was walking behind the goal when he was warming up at half time and i thought he was joking about gaining some confidence as he wasnt even diving for the ball. Turns out he didnt need to bother with such things to make a save!

 

I really hope Cirencester dont make the playoffs. Out of all the sides we've played around the playoffs and indeed in this league they were the most dirty.

[cirenpylonsider]

Can someone please explain to me why we don't have a reserve goalkeeper on the bench!

 

The fact his hand is broken might have something to do with it!! As far as i know the 'ressie' side is really a youth team so they are not ready yet for the step up.

 

The triple save was indeed one of the funiest moments down the meadow for a while! I was walking behind the goal when he was warming up at half time and i thought he was joking about gaining some confidence as he wasnt even diving for the ball. Turns out he didnt need to bother with such things to make a save!

 

I really hope Cirencester dont make the playoffs. Out of all the sides we've played around the playoffs and indeed in this league they were the most dirty.

 

I'm not sure 8 yellows necessarily equals 'most dirty in the League'. I was genuinely puzzled about some of the cautions and after the match asked the assessor to go through them with me. In sequence, 7 mins Welsh turns on loose ball to hook it upfield, Windsor lad comes from behind him to try and get there, Welsh is already connecting when he 'charges' it down. Connection, no doubt high boot - assessor says Reckless challenge. Hmm? You've got to have eyes in the back of your head, realise somebody is coming in so don't go through with the play? Dubious.

 

15 mins Westlake goes in as Chandiram pushes the ball too far ahead, slides in, gets ball, Chandiram goes over him - assessor says Reckless challenge. Raised eyebrows from me, assessor says he followed through with his left leg. Debatable but OK, it was right in front of the assessor, I'm 50 yards away in the corner. Was tempted to ask assessor why therefore was Seedel not cautioned when Hoskin spun onto ball on 22 mins and was taken out two footed from behind ... but held my tongue.. No point arguing.

 

26, Wood told by ref to change his undershirt. The lad is daft enough not to go off to do it so duly cautioned - clearly dirty play, that one. 32 Hoskin dives in and Fagan steps inside him - no argument there. Deffo reckless. 39 Windsor attacking up left after corner half cleared, just about contained, ball goes out, Bevan thinks it is still in play and puts it over the sideline. Assessor - delaying restart. Of Ciren throw in. Ridiculously dirty play there!

 

66 Chennels just been victim of awful bobble, 20 yards away Reid cautioned. Assessor tells me it is dissent. OK, that was daft but I'm now trying not to laugh. 68 Thompson dives in, tumbles Wilson. No argument, dived in. 80 Tomkins cynical trip as Chennell finally gets away on a run and is going clear. Deffo a yellow that.

 

Did push me luck, checking my notes, and asked his opinion of 48 mins, Hoskin gets in front of Butler near the touchline, shows left, goes right and is going away when a combination of a left leg through him and a right arm swung at his nut puts him down. Ref has a chat, free to Ciren but ... assessor says it was in 'that corner where I could not see, sorry.' Pfft.

 

86 mins, just before Westlake stormed past him to put in the cross for the winner, Westlake is past Parsons deep on the Ciren right just in front of me and the lino. Dives in, catches him late, follows through with his right boot. Lino waggles flag; ref insists on throw in. Assessor - 'I did not see that'

 

As Mr Bullivant said to our Flag Gang behind the goal, just after Bevan had been booked on, 'Sorry lads, this is embarrassing' or something like that. To be blunt, 3 of the cautions were a joke, one was harsh (Welsh high boot), one avoidable (just get off the pitch, lad) and 3 were IMHO fully justified. Which is why I am still puzzled that the ref did not apply the same criteria to the 3 Windsor 'tackles' that could well have been classified as Reckless challenge. But, nowt anybody can do about it.

 

If I may venture an opinion, I do think the match changed when Bullivant was injured. He had already made 3 solid stops and I suspect if he had stayed on the fact that he is a real keeper (so to speak) may well have forced Ciren into trying to force the issue and leave themselves open at the back. However, I have now seen Windsor play 6 times this season and notice that as well as pressing all over the park you use Fagan and Parsons a lot for the outball and can build up pressure on other teams by keeping the ball. Yesterday, for whatever reason (and I do think the defence stayed pinned back to try and prevent anything coming in on the sub keeps) the accuracy disappeared.

 

Never seen Parsons and Fagan drift the ball into touch so much, never seen Seedel positioned so badly. It meant Chennells was isolated, never except twice got a pass in dangerous space. And, after showing first half, Smith disappeared. Hey, we'll take that good fortune but I think it is fair to say Ciren played a lot more accurately than they have done for the past four weeks and kept the pressure on yr backline. And exposed Wharton big time! Anyways, we'll see how we do against Totton now. And I'm sure Mr Scott will find a keeper for yr next match.

 

You've got the points on the board, the Goal Difference into the stratosphere; still have the edge so don't panic. If any of the chasers win the rest of their matches then fair play to them, that will be some achievement. Sorry to be chuntering but clearly I disagree with the assessment as 'dirty' ! Meanwhile, an Arteta moment from the smilies - I like it

[Woody SUFC]

If i was a cirencester fan i'd be abit gutted to of only got one against a 'keeper' like we had. Gutted to let one slip so late on. We had to change shape to protect the goal and that cost us the game.

 

The 9 deserved his booking, i was right by him. and he deserved to be sent off also! All game he was gobbing off and there was no need for it. Leave that to us fans!! He'd of got himself talked into the book if he hadnt been already. Should of been booked for celebrating the goal aswell by the book!!

[jenthecri]

We didnt score. They did. But thats only half the story!

 

They had so many yellow cards that i wouldnt be susprised if they get some sort of fine and how that 9 stayed on is beyond me. If he was a windsor player i certainly would never applaud him off the pitch.

 

The ref bottled it. Never had game in control. If he did i dare say it would of been a different result.

 

Next game...

what really gets me is the way the fans acted. they were as uncontrolled and as stupid as the ref. they were arrogant and rude and the club should be ashamed of them.

the fact that a supporter AND A PLAYER swore openly at my daughter and the ballboy is digusting enough but the way they spoke to Vic on the way out is just purile.

Windsor played badly but to be able to pick up 15 yellow cards in 2 games surely raises the question of how dirty a team can play?

[Mrs_Cat]

To be fair to them we didn't really work their keeper at all and they had a few decent chances, so on that basis they probably did deserve the win.

 

Although a couple of the bookings seemed quite harsh, especially the one where the no2 put in a good tackle in front of the stand, I thought in general they were a pretty dirty side. You have to wonder how many of their bookings can be attributed to their no9. He spent the whole game from the very first whistle gobbing off to the ref. Its only human nature that the ref is going to take a dim view of that sort of thing and deny that team any benefit of the doubt.

 

We just never seemed to get going yesterday. It felt like some of the games towards the end of last season where the confidence had gone. Hopefully we can get back on track with a couple of wins this week. Even 4 points wouldn't be too bad, we're still in the driving seat, Totton have a really tough run coming up and I still fancy us to pick something up at their place.

 

There seemed to be an element of doom & gloom around the club last night, we've only lost 2 games there is no need to panic! Apart from Newport County every other side in the country would kill to be in our position.

 

Hopefully Bully's injury isn't as bad as first feared and we might see him back for next season. Up until now we've been really lucky with injurys this season.

[filmwefc]

If you defend well even if you dont score you dont deserve to get beat and i dont believe we did deserve to lose. Their fans behaviour at the end was appalling but to be fair the language coming out of some windsor fans was pretty bad as well. No need to push the panic button yet we are still 10 points clear at the moement. Totton have to earn the points as they are not on the board. Its times like this when you really see how much Bully inspires his defence with confidence as a normal briliant defence seemed to go to pieces. Hey ho. We will bounce back.

[Windsor_Sec]

Some interesting comments there from both sides.

Apart from Tom McNeill we do also have Mark Banfrey as goalkeeping cover and he's done very well in the Capital League side considering it's been mostly youngsters in front of him this season - yes I agree with whoever said we should have a 'keeper on the bench especially for the last few games when it could prove to be vital.

Time will tell but Bullys' injury will probably keep him out for the rest of the season - stranger things have happened though so we'll keep everything crossed for a speedy recovery. We have signed another 'keeper in James Courtnage who many will remember from our Ryman League days as he's appeared in opposition colours many a time - he joins us a on a dual-registration with Staines, I just hope he's available for all our games with Banfrey on the bench!

I think Cirenpylonsider analysed our performance just about as accurately as you can get but I didn't agree with his defence of the bookings [apart from the shirt one!] and I was convinced Butler was booked after the incident he spoke about [again he wasn't as the man rightly pointed out!]. He even got the Bully incident spot on from my point of view [by the tunnel looking side-on] and it was definitely Ryans' shove that forced the collision!

Jenthecri, I'm sorry if your daughter was sworn at but if I hear another peep from the ballboy he'll be an ex-ballboy as he's been told about his gob before! I'm afraid it wasn't only the away supporters whose behaviour needs addressing in fact any reaction Vic may have received might well have been in reaction to some stupid provocation received from our supporters by the tunnel [people, who I will add, should know better!], it wasn't their supporters who dictated their style of play so why be abusive to them?

Mrs Cat as usual gets things pretty spot-on as well, particularly the 3rd and 4th paragraphs.

So to sum up, yes it's disappointing to have lost two games but it's in our hands and no-one elses' to sort things out, Totton can't win it as long as we don't lose it!

[Doris Wanderer]

Away from the game yesterday (and I didnt think they were "dirty" - although the 9 would have been introduced to a set of six down the calf and achilles if I'd have been involved), and just to highlight what Mrs Cat said, have a flick through your programmes from earlier in the season, read the interview with Jim Melvin. It will just give you that little bit of reassurance you might need. We are in good hands. 8 games to go 10 points clear...everyone knows what is needed.

[Rother]

When the bookings were mounting up my 11yo turned to me and said "Dad, I know I'm a Windsor supporter but what the hell is the ref playing at, he's booking players after they've made good tackles."

 

I had to agree with him.

 

Cirencester were not a dirty team. Physical yes, strong yes, but like teams do to Arsenal, they got in our faces and made it very difficult for us.

 

I didn't see / hear their fans after the game but, as often happens, the reaction of some of our fans (and that definitely includes the ballboy) during and at the conclusion of games we don't win, was embarrassingly OTT.

[Woody SUFC]

Whilst passions run high, indeed mine did yesterday which hardly ever happens, some of the langauge behind the goal was shocking. I was stood behind the goal for a 'change' and was promptly told to go forth and multiply when i said "this is a family club" when someone was effing and blinding! I thought we'd stamped it out. Clearly not. What made it worse was the fact there was 5 or so little girls running around behind the goal at the time!! I certainly wouldnt want my kids subjected to that and goes against everything we are trying to do at the moment.

 

In my view swearing at the top of your voice so ALL can hear is not on!

[dansilk]

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15 mins Westlake goes in as Chandiram pushes the ball too far ahead, slides in, gets ball, Chandiram goes over him - assessor says Reckless challenge. Raised eyebrows from me, assessor says he followed through with his left leg. Debatable but OK, it was right in front of the assessor, I'm 50 yards away in the corner. Was tempted to ask assessor why therefore was Seedel not cautioned when Hoskin spun onto ball on 22 mins and was taken out two footed from behind ... but held my tongue.. No point arguing.

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On this one, we were close by it so I saw more clearly (as did the lino): the tackle might have been OK but the follow-through wasn't - your guy's foot came down hard on the back of Joe's ankle, we heard the contact from 15 feet away... if deliberate, it would have merited an immediate brandished red, and as it looked we thought it fortunate to 'only' get yellow.

the ref was pretty poor though. Never seemed to have good control of the game. Unfortunately, nor did Windsor.