Does Jarvis have a point?

[Chris]

http://www.maidenheadadvertiser.com/sport/article-14974-jarvis-slough-is-not-a-derby/

 

Not with the fact it's not a 'derby' - course it is, but the last two lines of the story. Raises an interesting debate.

 

“If we can keep a clean sheet for 80 minutes their fans wll get on their backs.

 

“I know what they’re like.”

 

Ganna be a bit controversial and personally think he's right actually here. On Saturday and in some cases Monday there were far too many moans and groans at the team and players and it's also something Sweetman mentioned last season.

 

Don't get me wrong when the fans are behind the team and were doing well there are no fans better in this league, but when were losing and things are not going well some of our some fans I find to be a bunch of 'moaners' and comments on this forum are sometimes laughable and pretty pathetic at times.

 

Thought's anyone?

Edited February 18, 2010 by Chris

[Windsor Rebel]

http://www.maidenheadadvertiser.com/sport/article-14974-jarvis-slough-is-not-a-derby/

 

Not with the fact it's not a 'derby' - course it is, but the last two lines of the story. Raises an interesting debate.

 

“If we can keep a clean sheet for 80 minutes their fans wll get on their backs.

 

“I know what they’re like.”

 

Ganna be a bit controversial and personally think he's right actually here. On Saturday and in some cases Monday there were far too many moans and groans at the team and players and it's also something Sweetman mentioned last season.

 

Don't get me wrong when the fans are behind the team and were doing well there are no fans better in this league, but when were losing and things are not going well some of our some fans I find to be a bunch of 'moaners' and comments on this forum are sometimes laughable and pretty pathetic at times.

 

Thought's anyone?

 

I agree, if you read the first two lines of the article anyone who goes to Holloways Park next Tuesday will be able to have a good moan allright- on their own!

Edited February 18, 2010 by Windsor Rebel

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

http://www.maidenheadadvertiser.com/sport/article-14974-jarvis-slough-is-not-a-derby/

 

Not with the fact it's not a 'derby' - course it is, but the last two lines of the story. Raises an interesting debate.

 

“If we can keep a clean sheet for 80 minutes their fans wll get on their backs.

 

“I know what they’re like.”

 

Ganna be a bit controversial and personally think he's right actually here. On Saturday and in some cases Monday there were far too many moans and groans at the team and players and it's also something Sweetman mentioned last season.

 

Don't get me wrong when the fans are behind the team and were doing well there are no fans better in this league, but when were losing and things are not going well some of our some fans I find to be a bunch of 'moaners' and comments on this forum are sometimes laughable and pretty pathetic at times.

 

Thought's anyone?

 

Possibly has a point but compared to what he would have been used to at SYCOB and Beaconsfield that HAS to be true... 2-3X the fans= more moaning but also more support)- not a dig at local clubs attendences just a statement of fact before someone gets on their high horse. However, i think we are in the much better situation I have not heard ANY negative chanting at players this season but there is a lot of positive chanting, yes there are comments when players choose wrong options etc etc (but from my experience these are SAID to people around and not shouted at the player concerned) I think negative comments on here are pretty damn pointless to be honest and achieve nothing. But, to emphasise my point, if i was a player i would be much happier playing in front of fans that shout support and mutter negatives than vice versa, and it is also worth noting that our chanting support comes (and always starts) from 3-4 people (not including Dave Piecy;s random shouts) and maybe people should be more positive themselves and support the team vocally rather than just knocking anyone who has a valid point of criticism whilst they quietly stand on.

To conclude my opinion is that the issue isnt that we got a lot of abuse givers on the terrace its that more people shoudl join in vocally supporting.

And i also am surprised that someone in another thread is sayign we are almost taking success for granted and Bateman's not being appreciated, i for one think Bateman is doing a fantastic job, i predicted us to finish about 14th so think he has done wonders, the only thing i hacve disagreed with was the few games where Elliot was on the bench as i have always thought (and the hattrick proved it) that he is out most potent goal threat. But Steve hasbrought in some great players and the standard of football we are playign is literally worlds better than we've become used to over the previous few seasons.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Jarvis stiring the muda already - shows he must be a bit twitchy otherwise why would he need to say anything?

 

Slough have nothing to lose as burnham are the team higher up the leauge, so for the lower team to beat them would be a turn up, which means the pressure is on Jarvis, otherwise why did he turn up on Monday if he was so sure of his own team.

 

There is no need for Slough fans to get on the managements back as I am sure there will be pleanty of Jamie baiting going on! thats if he does not get sent off first!

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Also the advertiser going for an easy story knowing how big a mouth Javis has - all these tin pot rags do is take other peoples words and publish them without actually having to do any real work themselves - the advertiser used to be a decent paper but is now in the gutter with the rest of the rags.

[Tom]

Yes Jarvis does have a point and its a sad indictment that it has taken a newspaper article to bring this topic up.

 

As I said in the Sudbury thread there are certain people who no matter what the scoreline, final result or whether certain particular players are on the pitch will moan no matter what.

 

Frankly with what the fans have had to put up with in the past few seasons we should be lucky that 1) We have a competitive team, 2) There doesn't seem to be any money worries, 3) The club seems stable and 4) The club is moving in a positive direction.

 

Given the position of the club in comparison to previous seasons Bateman and his team are doing the correct things, stupid comments don't need to be made every time a decision is taken that isn't to your particular liking nor when the team isn't performing to perhaps the standards it has shown at times. Being 3rd in the league is way, way above the majority of peoples expectations, just leave it be.

 

The thing is it is not showing the club in a good light when people make these comments and this extends away from the ground too, especially when some members of this particular forum seem to have a gripe against other fans on this forum and on other forums (and no, not just Windsor's) making comments that come back to haunt them and then make themselves look stupid.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Watch out the thought police are out and about.

 

Remember this forum is only about positive comments and saying nice things about people.

[Tom]

Point proven.

[windsorian]

Wasn't Jarvis making the point that whereas Burnham players are local lads playing for their team Slough have very few.

Edited February 18, 2010 by windsorian

[Sue]

No maybe we don't have many players from Slough but I think its a well known fact that when a manager joins a club he usually brings players with him, something Jarvis well knows as he took most of the SYCOB team to Burnham.

 

 

Sue

[Roger Rebel]

Wasn't Jarvis making the point that whereas Burnham players are local lads playing for their team Slough have very few.

 

But does Jarvis have many Burnham boys in is South Bucks team.

[Ian]

I know it's not directly relevant to Jarvis' point but whilst we might travel in fantastic numbers for a club at our level I do think there is a lack of vocal support, especially given the amount we take. I recall when we first played AFC Wimbledon at Stag Meadow several of their fans commented on how we had more songs than them! There's certainly less singing now than the Eddie Denton days at Stag Meadow.

 

Then again, many of the fans that used to generate that noise are no longer around (or as much). Gary (off doing his secretary bit), BFR, Graham (who went to Cambridge), Nigel, Liam etc were all pretty vocal behind the goal. Let's prove Jarvis wrong and really get behind them at Burnham.

[Reading Rebel]

I know it's not directly relevant to Jarvis' point but whilst we might travel in fantastic numbers for a club at our level I do think there is a lack of vocal support, especially given the amount we take. I recall when we first played AFC Wimbledon at Stag Meadow several of their fans commented on how we had more songs than them! There's certainly less singing now than the Eddie Denton days at Stag Meadow.

 

Then again, many of the fans that used to generate that noise are no longer around (or as much). Gary (off doing his secretary bit), BFR, Graham (who went to Cambridge), Nigel, Liam etc were all pretty vocal behind the goal. Let's prove Jarvis wrong and really get behind them at Burnham.

 

I think a big thank-you must go to Radders and Marcus for being the main protagonists in the cheerleading stakes!

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

I think a big thank-you must go to Radders and Marcus for being the main protagonists in the cheerleading stakes!

 

 

Awww shucks I'm touched. So much so I'm going to start a new thread!

[Kaiser Gibbs Batman (KGB)]

Perhaps its something about coming from/living in Slough that encourages a certain frame of mind. I recall going to an away match at I think Bishops Stortford back in the late 1960's or early 1970's, a time when Slough were by any account a very successful side and had been for some time. The programme included an article in which home supporters suggested collective nouns appropriate for the supporters of various opposing teams. Ours was "a misery of Slough supporters".

[Reading Rebel]

Perhaps its something about coming from/living in Slough that encourages a certain frame of mind. I recall going to an away match at I think Bishops Stortford back in the late 1960's or early 1970's, a time when Slough were by any account a very successful side and had been for some time. The programme included an article in which home supporters suggested collective nouns appropriate for the supporters of various opposing teams. Ours was "a misery of Slough supporters".

 

 

I think you'll find Slough is no different to any club in the country. They all have their vociferous supporters (or wingers/moaners as some people like to call them) and the supporter who says very little but in general is thinking the same thing.

 

As long as the winging/moaning is not directed at the players/management I don't have a problem with it.

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

Perhaps its something about coming from/living in Slough that encourages a certain frame of mind. I recall going to an away match at I think Bishops Stortford back in the late 1960's or early 1970's, a time when Slough were by any account a very successful side and had been for some time. The programme included an article in which home supporters suggested collective nouns appropriate for the supporters of various opposing teams. Ours was "a misery of Slough supporters".

 

 

I think you'll find Slough is no different to any club in the country. They all have their vociferous supporters (or wingers/moaners as some people like to call them) and the supporter who says very little but in general is thinking the same thing.

 

As long as the winging/moaning is not directed at the players/management I don't have a problem with it.

so rr which camp do you belong to? i know the answer to this as you are a fully bone fide paid up member to both camps, which is fine as you pay your entrance fee and you are entitled to give your opinion .the management should only worry about what effect they are having when through bad decisions in your opinion stop you paying money at the gate and stop watching the team. as it is at the moment if they get moaning and groaning in the terraces it means they are generating an effect which will probably fill the seats next game, and i for one would hate to see the detractors stay away from either the terraces or on line as it triggers debate and interest which i think in the long run can only benefit the supporters and the club

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

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Edited February 20, 2010 by Staines Rebel

[Leicester Mike]

I know it's not directly relevant to Jarvis' point but whilst we might travel in fantastic numbers for a club at our level I do think there is a lack of vocal support, especially given the amount we take. I recall when we first played AFC Wimbledon at Stag Meadow several of their fans commented on how we had more songs than them! There's certainly less singing now than the Eddie Denton days at Stag Meadow.

 

Then again, many of the fans that used to generate that noise are no longer around (or as much). Gary (off doing his secretary bit), BFR, Graham (who went to Cambridge), Nigel, Liam etc were all pretty vocal behind the goal. Let's prove Jarvis wrong and really get behind them at Burnham.

 

 

I think the Rebels fans should make more noise. I met Graham (mentioned above) at St Ives Town a few weeks ago - he recognised the Rebels scarf. Brilliant support from all the Saints fans. Corny songs, but they kept it up for 90 minutes.