Inappropriate Language

[Coffin Ender]

It's a shame our club is getting a reputation across the league because our stewards want to pick on visiting supporters. How many Canvey fans were there today...20? The atmosphere wasn't exactly volatile, was it? One wonders if they would be so brave at a local derby with 400 or so visiting fans.

[blue balls]

We seem to have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot this season! A bunch of Essex boys putting their ill gotten gains behind our bar would have done wonders for the clubs coffers!

[Scuba Steve]

i'd just like to say there was a good bit of banter in the first half with a few of your supporters under the cover behind the goal, nothing nasty and was all taken in good humor.

The "c" word was used because yet again a totally useless set of officials got so many decisions wrong for both teams and was so frustrating and when it keeps happening

week after week things will be said in the heat of the moment rightly or wrongly. To say children shouldn't hear things like this is a joke , do you think all kids are little angels

cos i don't. You only have to walk down the high street in most towns to realise that. Your saftey officer came over and started giving it the big I am and didn't like it when we

started going back at him. Then at the end of the game to say he didn't like our attitude so we couldn't have a beer before we went home was nothing short of childish.

He needs to go and watch kids sunday football and realise in the big world adults, kids and even football club officials do use these sort of words.Thats life get over it.

 

Thought today was a scrappy game and either side could have won it , just glad it was us (no offense) If you play like that for the rest of the season i dont think you will

have a problem and you have a top keeper really good banter with him.

So best of luck for the rest of the season

[Broadstairs Dave]

I did wonder why a group of stewards were guarding the clubhouse door at full time, to me it did not look good and IF I was going in I would not have done so.

 

Its a shame this thread exists in the first place I hope its just a regrettable consequence of the way things are at the moment.

 

Time really for everybody to encourage peace and friendliness to break out . Hundreds of people got on well together this afternoon and we have all this about a few. How about it ?

 

Up the Gate

[Boney Crisp]

I'm with Canvey fan here all the way, if this happened to us at an away ground we would rightly be pissed off (excuse the language, lol) the stewards have become a bit of joke and it's probably because they are bored because lets face it, when is there any trouble at HDP? The stewards need to back off until there is a threat of violence, racist and extensive personal abuse behaviour.

[ramsgate builder]

<P>To all you canvey fans, at least your allowed a beer at half time and before the game because ALL ramsgate supporters are barred from the clubhouse and have been for at least the last 4 seasons! (apart from the friendly this year) </P>

[RichG]

The reason I go to watch Margate is to enjoy myself and give the team some support to help them win. As an ex-player I spent some time with "gentleman" Bobby Robson. It may surprise people to know that he could swear with the best of them, but it was never directed "at" a specific player or team. I am certain that our players do not want to hear foul and abusive language directed at the opposition. It does not help our team. What is the purpose of it?

 

I recall some of the chants from our "drunken" choir at Tonbridge last season. From the off they were hurling abuse at the opposition and opposition supporters. How could that help our team? I have tried to stop some of these lads going over the top in the past, but received abuse from them myself. Surely this is the sort of thing that needs to be stopped. I have no problem with general banter and the use of some swear words particularly in the heat of the moment of a game, but hurling abuse at players and others, just apparently for the fun of it is not acceptable.

 

By all means chant and sing, (the odd mild swear word is OK in this context) but do it to SUPPORT the team.

[Wellsie]

The "c" word was used because yet again a totally useless set of officials got so many decisions wrong for both teams and was so frustrating and when it keeps happening

week after week things will be said in the heat of the moment rightly or wrongly.

 

In part, colourful language is to be expected at footbal matches and is in evidence up and down the country every week. But I would argue that there is now excuse for this type of language. To say that the officials were useless is not an excuse. I thought the Caney language in the first half was border-line unacceptable; but having said that, I have headr similar from other fans including our own.

 

The other thing to bear in mind is that the stewards react to complaints form other people in the ground. I'm sure if clubs at our level could afford to put everyone through the best training, then it wojuld be handeled better, but the reality is what it is.

 

It's an issue that will rumble on no doubt, but if football wants to bring in a wider audience including women and children it seems only right to me that the changing face, gender and age of football supporters is considered by everyone in the ground. Society is indeed the poorer if we feel it's OK for young children to be subjected to excessive bad language simply because they hear it elsewhere.

[Boney Crisp]

I'm sorry the children who go to football matches are ussually old enough to tell the difference between what is right and wrong and if they are young enough not to be anle to tell the difference then it is up to the parents to stop it. If a child wants to go round saying things he/she heard at a football match then that is down to them. I don't see why others have to be punished for it. Also football stadiums are not the only place where the C word is used, i hear it everywhere including high streets during daylight hours when there is plenty of kids about. The C word is no longer as much of a taboo word it used to be and in about another 10 years it will be looked upon in the same way as the F word is now, just look at the history of TV censorship to see where i'm coming from.

[Guernsey Tom]

And that makes it right does it ??

[Porka]

And that makes it right does it ??

 

I can't see where that has been said. It's something you can't control at football grounds, unless you're prepared to ban half the support. Attempting to stamp it out completely just makes the club look daft as we've already seen.

[Boney Crisp]

And that makes it right does it ??

 

No, but my point is, is that you can't blame someones behaviour on other people

[HartsdownGooner`]

And that makes it right does it ??

 

I can't see where that has been said. It's something you can't control at football grounds, unless you're prepared to ban half the support. Attempting to stamp it out completely just makes the club look daft as we've already seen.

 

Ground Regulations.

19.Anyone using threatening,abusive or insulting words or behaviour or may be provoking a breach of the peace will be removed from the ground.

20 Anyone using any of the above towards the referee or assistant referees will also be removed from the ground

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MFC 1 Morons 0. As they say in Tennis,game,set and match!!

[Scuba Steve]

Ground Regulations.

19.Anyone using threatening,abusive or insulting words or behaviour or may be provoking a breach of the peace will be removed from the ground.

20 Anyone using any of the above towards the referee or assistant referees will also be removed from the ground

.

 

So when there are no players or managers in the ground what are you going to do then, cos i didn't see your safety officer having a word with BOTH benches.

 

as they say in tennis: DEUCE

 

This is real life and as bad as it is swearing is now rightly or wrongly a part of it. Why is the "C" word any worse than the "F" word after all a swear word is exactly that.

[Canvey Fan 1926]

Ground Regulations.

19.Anyone using threatening,abusive or insulting words or behaviour or may be provoking a breach of the peace will be removed from the ground.

20 Anyone using any of the above towards the referee or assistant referees will also be removed from the ground

.

 

So when there are no players or managers in the ground what are you going to do then, cos i didn't see your safety officer having a word with BOTH benches.

 

as they say in tennis: DEUCE

 

This is real life and as bad as it is swearing is now rightly or wrongly a part of it. Why is the "C" word any worse than the "F" word after all a swear word is exactly that.

 

Don't forget all of the Margate supporters, board, and staff. In fact, I'm pretty sure there would be nobody left...

[HartsdownGooner`]

Ground Regulations.

19.Anyone using threatening,abusive or insulting words or behaviour or may be provoking a breach of the peace will be removed from the ground.

20 Anyone using any of the above towards the referee or assistant referees will also be removed from the ground

.

 

So when there are no players or managers in the ground what are you going to do then, cos i didn't see your safety officer having a word with BOTH benches.

 

as they say in tennis: DEUCE

 

This is real life and as bad as it is swearing is now rightly or wrongly a part of it. Why is the "C" word any worse than the "F" word after all a swear word is exactly that.

 

Scuba Steve. lets be pragmatic about this.Swearing goes on where ever we go,in whatever we do,but you also have to draw lines that should not be crossed in every thing we do in life or we slip into Anarchy. All the time we hear that football is entertainment for all to enjoy! So is Rugby,(A real mans game),Cricket Tennis,motor racing Golf, along with Theatre,Cinema,and concerts.You dont hear the extremes of Anglo Saxon used there.Why should football be so different and throw up this extreme tribal behaviour? Agreed the language on the pitch and from the dugouts obviously makes everybody at the game think if they can do it,so can i.The difference being what happens on the pitch is the referees duristriction,but in the ground with the general public it is the clubs responsibility! (Advantage Commom Sense).

[Andy .]

lets hope Jim Ward don`t get the managers job then because as we all know he has a way with words . Wow we could be the 1st club in the country to ban our own manager from the ground for swearing .

While im on the case i will say the stewards do walk around giving it the large one at times and i will say i also had to ask one to move out of the way as he came and stood in front of my lad bloking his view of the game yesterday but he couldn`t be bothered to hear me or move so i had to move my boy in front of him to see the match. Funny thing as well is he mentioned the word s..t twice as he spoke to the guys behind me about the game and that the game and MFC were the same sort of stuff that got flushed down the toilet .

[Scuba Steve]

As i said wether it's right or wrong and you obviously feel it's wrong and i respect that , you will never rid any spot of the emotional

outbursts . You mention other sports and all i would say is have you heard the language tiger woods has used on many occasions

and if i dig deep enough i'm sure i could sit her and make list after list.

Tell me if you hear somebody swearing in the street do you go over to them and ask them to stop? I doubt it cos i'm sure you know

what kind of reception you would get. I feel this is blown all out of proportion and there are more important things to worry about

than if i or anyone else calls the ref a "c" .

And yes you are right about anarchy but i doubt a few football supporters having a beer and a swear up on a saturday will mean

the end of civil harmony as we know it

[HartsdownGooner`]

As i said wether it's right or wrong and you obviously feel it's wrong and i respect that , you will never rid any spot of the emotional

outbursts . You mention other sports and all i would say is have you heard the language tiger woods has used on many occasions

and if i dig deep enough i'm sure i could sit her and make list after list.

Tell me if you hear somebody swearing in the street do you go over to them and ask them to stop? I doubt it cos i'm sure you know

what kind of reception you would get. I feel this is blown all out of proportion and there are more important things to worry about

than if i or anyone else calls the ref a "c" .

And yes you are right about anarchy but i doubt a few football supporters having a beer and a swear up on a saturday will mean

the end of civil harmony as we know it

 

 

Scuba Steve,I respect your views and opions to,but its getting late, and i feel this topic has run its course. So i have to say,injury time out,trainer on,match abandoned! (Thats Tennis)!Only Mc enroe Ever transgressed, not the viewing spectators!Point made.

[BlueGate Alan]

Ok I spoke to our Safety Officer after the game and yes he did ask for the Canvey fans to stop swearing, especially the "C" word. After doing this he was barraged with insults from some of them calling him all sorts, unrepeatable on here. That is why stewards were put with them for a while and is why they were not allowed in bar after game and were asked to sit on their coach.