FOX HUNTING

[Colin Zeal EFM]

Or animal cruelty, Librarian?

 

What about those kids who slashed those horses on Sopwell Lane a few years back??

 

Presumably that was for their own enjoyment??

 

Are we not allowed an opinion on that, purely because we're not veggie??

 

 

[EFM's Librarian]

It all depends on how highly you value animals. I personally think humans are more important.

 

Obviously I don't WANT animals to be treated cruelly, and I'm not completely certain about all of this, which is why I said in my original post ' I'm not sure on this' but I still think its hypocritical for people who eat meat to argue against animals being treated cruelly. I believe the worst form of cruel treatment is murder, and this is what all meat-eaters are implicitly condoning by eating meat.

[AFF]

Oi Laz.

 

It's a little known fact that alcohol contains beef extract.

 

Happy days on the wagon!

[Rob_the_Saint]

It's all very well charging across the countryside after imaginary foxes but most of the little blighters are living in towns now. I've even got them in my back garden! Who's going to get rid of those before they chew up your pet rabbit?

[Colin Zeal EFM]

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It all depends on how highly you value animals. I personally think humans are more important.

 

Obviously I don't WANT animals to be treated cruelly, and I'm not completely certain about all of this, which is why I said in my original post ' I'm not sure on this' but I still think its hypocritical for people who eat meat to argue against animals being treated cruelly. I believe the worst form of cruel treatment is murder, and this is what all meat-eaters are implicitly condoning by eating meat.

 

Fair enough. That's your opinion, I guess.

 

We'll agree to disagree, but I think there's a world of difference between animals that are born so that human's can eat meat (like you say, you "personally think humans are more important"), and animals that are cruelly treated by vindictive individuals.

 

 

[AFF]

Hi Rob.

 

What's the name of your rabbit?

[EFM's Librarian]

Okay we'll agree to disagree, otherwise this could go on for ever!

 

You'll have to take out your annoyance with me on the tennis court this afternoon!

[Laz]

Are you sure about that AFF?

 

What I love about being a veggie is that there is always some clever dick trying to shoot you down.

 

I could say, AFF did you know eating meat will probably give you cancer, but I don't.

 

As for drink, most alcoholic drinks don't contain anything derived from Animals, but in some cases finings are used to clear the clag. These don't stay in the drink of course.

[AFF]

No, not entirely sure, Laz. Worth checking though.

 

Did you mean 'finings' or 'fingers'?

[CANV EFM]

i had a rabbit called 'stu'..

are humans designed to be omnivores?

[Colin Zeal EFM]

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Okay we'll agree to disagree, otherwise this could go on for ever!

You'll have to take out your annoyance with me on the tennis court this afternoon!

Not annoyed, Librarian, but some of your 'beliefs', 'theories' and 'morals' completely baffle me at times. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Still. Takes all sorts, I guess.

[Rob_the_Saint]

Oi AFF

 

I was speaking hypothetically, as you well know!

 

I actually own a rottweiler called Tom.

[Laz]

AFF, finings, but I can't be bothered to check the spelling. As you don't have much to do could you have a peek in the OED?

 

RTS, Bring the Rottweiler to a few games. We love old dogs at City.

[Colin Zeal EFM]

Nah, we got enough of them already!!

 

 

[EFM's Librarian]

Finings is indeed correct:

 

Finings, it seems, are much like home brew recipes of the past, a brewer would meticulously design a recipe, then, almost as an afterthought, pick a generic package of dried "ale" or "lager" yeast without realizing how that single ingredient could make or break the quality of the beer. Lets face it, home made beer is of an incredible caliber, the quality of our beers are astonishing when you consider how "good" other amateur products can be. But the nagging problems of a hazy, cloudy beer can be a real distraction to even the best tasting brews, any experienced chef will tell you that proper visual presentation on the plate is 80% of the task of well served food. So it is with a quality beer. Brilliant clarity adds the glowing gold tones to a crisp, quenching Pilsner, the brassy-copper highlights seem to add depth and appreciation to the floral nose of a hand crafted Pale Ale, and the deep reddish shade of dry Dusseldorf style Alt really adds dimension to the overall appeal of the beer.

 

[CANV EFM]

im getting thirsty

[Colin Zeal EFM]

Mmmm... me too. What's tonight? Wednesday?? Could be a few cold Stella's with my feet up in front of the box then.

 

 

[Laz]

No Cider left, Zealster?

[Colin Zeal EFM]

You're joking!

 

We went to the farm on Friday morning. It had all gone by Saturday afternoon!!

 

 

[EFM's Librarian]

Zeal - did you ever have the hot spicy cider at Glastonbury? I'm not a big fan of cider, but that stuff is lovely. We tried the pear cider as well, but that wasn't quite so good