Amanda Knox - Guilty or Innocent

[Rhodes]

That's okay, where in the US are you from out of interest, is it anywhere near Seattle

[missunderstood]

Brounmoney - You were asking about Appeal dates, I gather that Amanda is back in Court later today as well as on the 26th of this month, she will also appear on 16 April and 21 May as far as I'm aware. Here's a link you may find interesting:

 

http://www.telegraph...w-evidence.html

 

Thanks alot Rhodes.

 

 

To be fair to the Italian judicial system, which has been variously described as incompetent and corrupt, had the crime been committed in the UK and Amanda had been tried by a British court, I believe the verdict would have been exactly the same as her tendency to change her statements would have made her seem unreliable at best, and more likely a pathological liar at worse.

 

Also her cartwheeling and general odd behavior would have, rightly or wrongly, quite possibly alienated her from some members of the jury, as its an inherent trait in the British character to be deeply suspicious of odd people, and probably more so because she is American.

Edited March 12, 2011 by missunderstood

[Brounmoney]

Brounmoney - You were asking about Appeal dates, I gather that Amanda is back in Court later today as well as on the 26th of this month, she will also appear on 16 April and 21 May as far as I'm aware. Here's a link you may find interesting:

 

http://www.telegraph...w-evidence.html

 

Thanks alot Rhodes.

 

 

To be fair to the Italian judicial system, which has been variously described as incompetent and corrupt, had the crime been committed in the UK and Amanda had been tried by a British court, I believe the verdict would have been exactly the same as her tendency to change her statements would have made her seem unreliable at best, and more likely a pathological liar at worse.

 

Also her cartwheeling and general odd behavior would have, rightly or wrongly, quite possibly alienated her from some members of the jury, as its an inherent trait in the British character to be deeply suspicious of odd people, and probably more so because she is American.

 

Well misunderstood I do agree with you to a certain extent, but the one thing that I think that does not sit with me well is the evidence. There was just so many mistakes with it. I don't know if what they had would hold up in an American court. I am just not sure.

Edited March 13, 2011 by Brounmoney

[Brounmoney]

That's okay, where in the US are you from out of interest, is it anywhere near Seattle

 

No I am not from seattle. I am from South Carolina. I went to Seattle last summer, but not to do with Amanda Knox. The reason that I got into the Amanda Knox story was because of a movie. I did not like the movie at all, but I did want to know more about Amanda Knox.

[Rhodes]

Brounmoney - We haven't seen the movie in the UK as yet, what was it like out of interest

[missunderstood]

That's okay, where in the US are you from out of interest, is it anywhere near Seattle

 

No I am not from seattle. I am from South Carolina. I went to Seattle last summer, but not to do with Amanda Knox. The reason that I got into the Amanda Knox story was because of a movie. I did not like the movie at all, but I did want to know more about Amanda Knox.

 

 

If my memory of long ago geography lessons serve me correctly, having a shag was a popular past time in South Carolina, as it still is in the UK, although the interpretation of the word shag is totally different.

[Brounmoney]

Brounmoney - We haven't seen the movie in the UK as yet, what was it like out of interest

 

People here liked the movie. A lot of the people in US did not even know the story. This is why the family got so mad about it. It had a lot of lies in it, so a lot of people think Amanda is guilty after watching the movie. This is why I did not like the movie. Not even loosely based on the story.

[Brounmoney]

That's okay, where in the US are you from out of interest, is it anywhere near Seattle

 

No I am not from seattle. I am from South Carolina. I went to Seattle last summer, but not to do with Amanda Knox. The reason that I got into the Amanda Knox story was because of a movie. I did not like the movie at all, but I did want to know more about Amanda Knox.

 

 

If my memory of long ago geography lessons serve me correctly, having a shag was a popular past time in South Carolina, as it still is in the UK, although the interpretation of the word shag is totally different.

 

Yes misunderstood I am not sure what that is. Please do explain what it means in the UK.

[Loose]

Hello from your roving reporter here in Italy. Well surprisingly enough Amanda is not the hottest topic here in the Italian Press, preferring to focus on Berlusconi's latest mischief (he's a "bambino" that one!) and also the misery unfolding in Japan - they've got their priorities all wrong I hear Rhodesy cry!

 

Spoken with quite a few people and it's quite refreshing that they don't all hate Knoxy (they don't think she's innocent but they don't hate her!) but they hold a particular disdain for her parents who they say do nobody any favours, least of all Amanda!! Widely regarded as what they imagine to be "White Trash" but I'm not so sure thats true although most people do seem to think they don't care what they have to do to get Amanda free including any type of lying, twisting facts and turning previous allies against each other!

 

Interestingly (at least to me) the latest appeal hearing focused on discrediting the witness who had stated that he had seen Amanda and her boyfriend outside the apartment on the night and that he remembered because he saw buses taking people to nightclubs. Amanda's defence team brought forward 6 witnesses from various nightclubs and bus operators to give evidence that their nightclubs were not open on that night. That the witness against Amanda and her boyfriend was in error!

 

Surprise surprise, everyone in Perugia and surrounds appear to know that many of the other nightclubs (theres over a dozen) and bus operators were open and working on that night and that Knox's defence team failed somehow to bring them forward for testimony. Some strategy eh?

 

Ciao! - see, it's not hard to pick up the lingo.......

[Rhodes]

Loosely - You will find that this is a far more accurate description of Saturday's events at the appeal with some spot on message board comments such as 'what is wrong with the Italians that they are so corrupt and covering all this up' and 'this makes the OJ trial look like a textbook prosecution':

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2011/03/amanda_knox_appeals_case_back_in_italian_court.html

[Loose]

Loosely - You will find that this is a far more accurate description of Saturday's events at the appeal with some spot on message board comments such as 'what is wrong with the Italians that they are so corrupt and covering all this up' and 'this makes the OJ trial look like a textbook prosecution':

 

http://www.oregonliv...lian_court.html

 

How interesting Rhodesly that despite this information being contained within your link:-

 

"But the prosecution maintained the testimony was inconclusive because it didn't take into account other shuttle bus services, or other discos whose operators have not been heard. "If ever there is testimony that is completely useless -- I don't want to say counterproductive -- this is it," prosecutor Manuela Comodi said.

A lawyer for the Kercher family, Francesco Maresca, also noted the testimony said nothing of the public buses that pass through the piazza. "I remain convinced of the reliability of this witness," he told reporters during a break in the session. "

- you still feel that the article supports your cause. As always you are a selective reader.

Edited March 15, 2011 by Loose

[Rhodes]

Loosely - Why do you persist in posting on this thread if you haven't got anything positive or constructive to say about Amanda Knox and are always looking to put her and her loving family down. What gets me is that you openly supported someone like Akmal Shaikh, a convicted drug trafficker who was rightly executed by the no nonsense Chinese yet you seem to have some sort of bee in your bonnet about an angelic young woman who clearly had nothing whatsoever to do with Meredith Kercher's murder and has been hung out to dry by a corrupt and incompetent Italian legal system.

[Loose]

Loosely - Why do you persist in posting on this thread if you haven't got anything positive or constructive to say about Amanda Knox and are always looking to put her and her loving family down. What gets me is that you openly supported someone like Akmal Shaikh, a convicted drug trafficker who was rightly executed by the no nonsense Chinese yet you seem to have some sort of bee in your bonnet about an angelic young woman who clearly had nothing whatsoever to do with Meredith Kercher's murder and has been hung out to dry by a corrupt and incompetent Italian legal system.

 

Hahahaha "angelic" - what a cracker!

 

What is the title of the thread Rhodes? Does it say "Amanda Knox is Innocent - no more discussion is required except for myself, Rhodes to post links of articles so that I can twist the truth"?

 

No, you asked whether she was "Guilty or Innocent" so it's a discussion thread and I happen to prefer to actually read some of these articles you post and more importantly.... the ones you don't!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

Listen Rhodes, you may have noticed that you don't get many positive reactions from people on here or the SSML forum and I happen to know that you don't mind. You see I found out about your "anger issues" from someone who knows you well, very well, and that you need the attention, good and bad, positive and negative. In my book you need help and I'm giving it to you at the same time as pointing out some of your fibs. Not an issue is it?

 

Ciao Bambino! (That's Ta ta for now from Italy...)

[Rhodes]

Loosely - So why did you doggedly defend an unscrupulous drug trafficker then, namely Akmal Shaikh, who was rightly, and joyously, executed by the no-nonsense Chinese yet you continue to castigate an innocent young woman who has been wrongly convicted of a crime she obviously didn't commit by a Dickensian Italian legal system who is seemingly using Amanda Knox as a pawn to get one over on the good old US of A.

[Loose]

Buenosera Rhodesly!

 

Wow you like to drag up some old discussions and I had to remind myself by looking it up just how you felt about the Chinese executing a British citizen with known learning difficulties/mental health issues and looking through it you seemed more than happy - no, joyous in the extreme that a foreign justice system with a well known and documented poor record on Human Rights had taken a man out of his cell with no notice, no warning to his family, legal team or British Consul and put him to death., simply applying their standards and form of justice.

 

So it's ok for the Chinese to apply justice to a foreign subject but not the Italians? Is that what you are saying Rhodes?

 

My only issue was with the speed of the Chinese process, the doubts over whether Akmal could even understand what was happening to him and the lack of humanity shown to his friends and family. It's laughable that you approved of his punishment and yet you will twist every fact and cry foul when a murderess who has the benefit of appeal has been brought to book. Dual -no, multiple standards you have there Rhodesy, plain for all to see!

 

 

People who would like to acquaint themselves further with Rhodesy's thoughts on the Chinese Justice System that he applauds might not help but notice this (yet again and still to this day) failure to answer the question below:-

You would like to see our justice system replicate the Chinese one. You would like drug dealers to be put to death and would have no qualms with how that is achieved, in fact you would celebrate it.

 

What remains then is for you to explain what you were doing with literally a carrier bag full of boxes labelled "Viagra". An amount that any logical thinking person could not conceive as being legitimately proscribed by a doctor for personal use.

 

So Cliffy, once again, why were you wandering around London with a carrier bag full of Viagra - which you left in a friend of mines car after receiving a lift? What does it say about your standards and morals when you are so pleased to see another drug dealer executed for a similar act?

 

Speak up Rhodesy, the silence is deafening.

[Rhodes]

Loosely - Yes but Viagra isn't exactly Heroin is it, Shaikh had 4 kilograms of it in his possession when he was arrested at Urumqi Diwopu Airport in September 2007

[Loose]

Answer the questions Rhodes or are you admitting that you have multi standards?

 

So it's ok for the Chinese to apply justice to a foreign subject but not the Italians? Is that what you are saying Rhodes?

 

Why were you wandering around London with a carrier bag full of Viagra - which you left in a friend of mines car after receiving a lift? What does it say about your standards and morals when you are so pleased to see another drug dealer executed for a similar act?

[Rhodes]

Loosely - Yes, but I repeat Viagra isn't exactly Heroin is it infact it enhances lives rather than destroys them. Anyway what has Viagra got to do with Amanda Knox.

[Loose]

Well Rhodesly, what has heroin got to do with Amanda Knox, but you still brought it up and no, a carrier bag full does not enhance life, if taken in those quantities it would blow up your heart.

 

So, why not answer the questions on the subject that you brought up, they must be dear to your heart and we all wait with bated breath for your explanations..

 

So it's ok for the Chinese to apply justice to a foreign subject but not the Italians? Is that what you are saying Rhodes?

 

Why were you wandering around London with a carrier bag full of Viagra - which you left in a friend of mines car after receiving a lift? What does it say about your standards and morals when you are so pleased to see another drug dealer executed for a similar act?

 

 

You opened the door with your little side journey, evading the questions does not close it, what are you frightened of admitting? That you haven't a leg to stand on?

 

 

 

Ciao Rhodesly!!

[Rhodes]

if taken in those quantities it would blow up your heart.

Loosely - Get real, you only need one tablet of Viagra prior to sexual activity, what are you talking about