Amanda Knox - Guilty or Innocent

[Brounmoney]

Loose well it looks like you are going to try to make your point and not stop until I do. Well guess what Jackass I want stop cause you still have not given me any of what the judge and jury look at to decided Amanda conviction. You say I have opinion but I got it from facts, but I never claimed it was fact. Your problem is that you want to say you have facts, but it is all opinion. So it is all about if you can back up your opinion with anything which to this point you have not. So I would really like for you too, but if you want to keep talking about how stupid I am and how you are right and never back it up I can keep going for days.

[Loose]

Loose well it looks like you are going to try to make your point and not stop until I do. Well guess what Jackass I want stop cause you still have not given me any of what the judge and jury look at to decided Amanda conviction. You say I have opinion but I got it from facts, but I never claimed it was fact. Your problem is that you want to say you have facts, but it is all opinion. So it is all about if you can back up your opinion with anything which to this point you have not. So I would really like for you too, but if you want to keep talking about how stupid I am and how you are right and never back it up I can keep going for days.

 

 

Oh so it's "Jackass" now is it chap? We going to add that to your playground strategy? Listen chap, if you are getting too worked up over this that you have to resort to the name calling so early perhaps you should get your blood pressure or your IQ checked chap.

 

Obviously the Judges' summing up (which of course you still haven't even found let alone read) is 427 pages long! It's not up to me to copy it here for you to check your facts. Why don't you start by providing a plausible innocent explanation for the multiple conflicting alibis or repeated lies from Knox. Of course you completely ignore the double DNA knife and Sollecitos DNA on Meredith's bra clasp. Not to mention Sollecitos bloody footprint on the bathroom mat. The five instances of Amanda's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood and the luminol footprints. Which lie do you believe about where Amanda Knox was during the murder? What you seem to forget is that I do not have to back up my opinion because I've stated the facts and these are now all FACTS believed by a jury and convicted with, it is up to an appeal to introduce new evidence or disprove the original evidence, just saying "Yah boo sucks Jackass, that ain't so won't cut it will it.

Yes, I believe that you can carry on boring for days, I bet you are gold medal material. I'm sure we can count on some more insults and a good dose of USA USA USA!!

Bore on chap.

 

[Rhodes]

Loosely - It looks like you have finally met your match doesn't it, I would just give up and crawl back under your stone if I were you

[Brounmoney]

Well ok I went to name calling because the shoes fit. Well your little thing about Knox's DNA in the bathroom, well all I have to say is did they not share a bathroom? Would there DNA not be shared there cause they both use the bathroom.

 

Next you said the knife. Were do I start with that. First of all the knife that they say was the murder weapon did not match the marks lefted on the bed, so how could it be the murder weapon. You can look at any that up in any documents that is all over the place. Also it had amanda's DNA on the handle, but did not have enough of meredeths on the blade to be of any value. So please tell me how I am wrong cause I am sure you have something.

 

The bra clasp well for starts that wa lefted on the floor for 6 weeks before it was taken and that is a fact. Which is not proper protocal. Also there is a view of the people handling it and they were all passing it around transferring DNA back and forth. Again not proper protocal. Well how do you want to go about telling me that is wrong because all of that is fact I did not make up any of it.

[Loose]

"Not to mention Sollecitos bloody footprint on the bathroom mat."

Try reading the post chap, I didn't say Amanda's DNA was found in the bathroom but that there were 5 instances of Knox's DNA found mixed with Merediths blood! - if all you are going to do is see what you want to when reading we'll get back to "the shoe fits" playground stuff. Make an effort will "ya"??

On the DNA on the knife can you tell me how much is enough? On the DNA on Meredith's bra clasp that was left on a floor for 6 weeks can you tell me how it was handled by Knox during the 6 weeks or for that matter by anyone else in a sealed off crime scene?

When can you start to tell me which one of Knox's multiple alibi's to believe? Which of her lies was not a lie and was the truth? How can you tell?

Can you show me in the trial transcript where the witnesses who saw Amanda and Sollecito outside the flat on the evening were disproved?

How about the time of mobile phone calls made from Knox's phone while she was supposedly asleep?

What about telling me where in the trial transcript the witness who saw Amanda shopping for cleaning materials while she was supposedly sleeping was discounted?

I don't think you can really prove any of the above are not what a jury and judges heard and believed and convicted on and most importantly how any of those facts can be discounted in an appeal.

Edited March 4, 2011 by Loose

[Brounmoney]

Ok so the reason that I said the bathrrom was not because I did not read what you said. Talk about assuming things. The reason I said the bathroom was the only place that they found there DNA together. So please don't make that mistake again get your facts before you say I am not listening to you.

 

The DNA on the knife was brought up in the trail and that small amount means that the sample could have been mixed with other things found in the crime scene. Again in the other countries this amount of DNA is not enough to convicted or to be sure that it was even there. YOU JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. Oh and also the clasp being on the floor for six weeks IS NOT PROTOCOL which should be all that you need to know. If they are not following protocol then what else could they have done. Them all handling it means that they could have touched other things and transferred DNA. I guess if you don't know your facts about protocol then you would not know this and could not understand it.

 

 

 

I believe her first alibi's which was backed up by Raffaele. It was not until the 14 hour interrogation that she

changed. WHICH AGAIN WAS NOT

FILMED WHICH AGAIN IS NOT

PROTOCOL.

 

 

Ok this is a question for you. I have never seen someone say that she was seen outside the cottage. Could you tell me where you saw that?

 

The only calls that I saw where after 10 so me something different.

 

I said this before the person that said they saw them in the store change there story.

[Loose]

No I;m sorry but I'm going to have to say it. You are talking absolute bollox lol. Don't bother anymore please because I can't take you seriously.lol.

 

Tell me why Knox's DNA could be mixed with Merediths blood anywhere, and no, it wasn't found in the bathroom, Hahaha.

 

Please give up with the big word "Protocol" PMSL!!!!!!!! You'd think that "Protocol" was invented somewhere specific in the world. Please tell me when America invented it and why it has a copyright on it? Do you know why America might have different protocols than elsewhere? Because all of your lawyers have been dicking each other up the wazoo so long, cover yo' ass has become the name of the game. DNA testing was NOT invented or discovered in the good ole US of A. If someone does it differently elsewhere it's probably because they do it right first time, every time.

 

Please tell me that a dead body discovered in the USA after 6 weeks does not mean that any DNA discovered at the crime scene cannot be introduced because of this magical "PROTOCOL" ?

 

Can you tell me how many people handled this bra? No, you can't.

 

Cottage witnesses - I refer you back....again to....the judges' summing up, the Trial Transcript. Please do your own research or go back through this thread and click on some links.

 

Best of all chap. You forgot to deny that Sollecitos' bloody footprint was found on the bath mat. Boy, are you just an amateur? I've got to say though that at least you don't just regurgitate links painting your girl in any sort of positive light like our Rhodesy.

Edited March 4, 2011 by Loose

[Brounmoney]

No America did not creat DNA but if you want to use do it right. The good ole USA is great place to live, but I am not sure why you keep bring it up I never said anything about the USA. For some reason that is all you can talk about. I mean you can hate the US I really don't care I am just in this case worried about right and wrong.

 

Knox DNA would be mix with her blood and everything else in that bathroom. You are wrong there was no blood mix anywhere else in the house, you can keep bring up this jury manuscript and tell me all about it, but I really don't think that you have read it cause if you did then you would know that DNA mix was only in one place.

 

And yes I do know how many people handle the clasp in the video. 3 people did. Any no they did not take there gloves off after touching other things. This is not American protocol so don't try that one again. It is called something like being smart. I guess you don't know

what that is. Six weeks is a long time

with things getting moved around.

 

 

Oh and also could you please tell me where Amanda and Her boyfriends bloody shirts are cause if they did it they

would have to blood on there clothes.

Also where are Meredith's key those are

missing and still have never been found.

Good luck with that one. Also why are

Amanda's finger prints not on Meredith's

phones. Please don't call me an amateur unless you have done your homework too.

 

I don't recall you saying you read that book I told you about. It has facts to back up what it is saying. Please don't bring up me not doing something until you can.

 

The only thing that you English did right was Top Gear. They may be the only English men that know what they are talking about.

[Loose]

And still he can't explain away the bloody footprint made by Sollecito on the bath mat. Because he can't. To refer to it then admits that Sollecito took part in the crime and if Amanda was meant to be with her boyfriend all night then she... must have been there...

 

Top gear? I think you've been on some.

 

 

 

[Brounmoney]

Again this footprint you speak of never saw that in any of the things that I read. All of them are Rudy Guede. Also everything that I ask you you have no answer for I have been answering all your questions you have not answered the last few from me.

 

Also give me a link to this trial transcript that you speak of cause I looked for it and nothing came up. You are full of so much BS.

[Loose]

Again this footprint you speak of never saw that in any of the things that I read.

 

Well what do you read? Where do you get your knowledge about this? You say that you don't read the media so how do you know anything? Did you attend the trial? Any of the appeal hearings?

 

The Trial Transcript? Google it, the truth is out there. So far all you've done is said that you haven't seen this, you haven't seen that and yet you are our foremost expert on the matter apparently

 

 

Oh, I forgot. You read a book.

Edited March 5, 2011 by Loose

[Brounmoney]

No I read the book and also read some of the media stuff, but what I did was looked at crime scene photos. I saw the movie that was made. I read other people blogs, but most of all I looked at crime timelogs that where in the book which are facts. So I did my research. I google trial transcript for the Amanda Knox trial and most people just said you would have to ask for those from someone official. Those are not just things that are handed out on the Internet. Please give me a link and I will read it. But I don't think you have even looked at it. Please stop changing the subject and answer my questions.

[Loose]

But you said that you didn't read the media. Which is it? Do read it, don't? Come on, be consistent.

 

If you don't mind me asking. Are you a grown-up, like an adult type thing?

[Brounmoney]

I said I don't really look at the media. I think a lot of it is BS like you. O don't like the media much but I do look for facts.

 

Yes I am an adult, I am not the one posting smiley face things all over the screen.

 

Really do you have anything to say about the case or are you now starting the childish crap.

[Loose]

How can I believe anything that you say? After all, you lied about the media. When you read a bit of the media do you just read the bits you like then, is it like that?

 

Tricky, very tricky.

[Brounmoney]

Ok really. If you want to go down this path that find but now we will get no where with talking about Amanda.

 

No I did not lie I just meant it was not were I go first and really don't watch the news that much. I look for shows and sites that just state facts not there opinion.

 

Well do I really want to keep talking to a child that does not answer any of my questions because he has no answers for me. Please I don't know if I can trust any of your info if you can not tell me where you got it.

 

Man Up and give me something to look at. I am very willing to look at how you got your info you can even do that.

[Brounmoney]

So I guess I got Loose to shut up or for the time being. Does anyone else have some thoughts on Amanda?

[Loose]

You can't trust me?? I wasn't the one who lied, do you see how that works?. So you choose which media to read then, just the bits you agree with and yet one of them is a... book! and the other is a ....film!! The rest is some stuff you can't name.

 

Now you want my help.

 

Start with Judge Massei's Sentencing Report here:- http://emilie.hermit.net/content/translation-trial-judge-dr-giancarlo-masseis-sentencing-statement

 

If you are an adult you don't need your hand holding, we do enough of that with Rhodes.

 

You can get your copy (in Italian) of the trial transcript from :-

 

Tribunale di Perugia

22 Piazza Matteotti

Perugia

 

You can email them at tribunale.perugia@giustizia.it

[Loose]

So I guess I got Loose to shut up or for the time being. Does anyone else have some thoughts on Amanda?

 

As I thought, you are a child. Talk about spit your dummy out when you don't get an instant response. Were you a crack baby? Can you ask your mother or is that not possible?

[Brounmoney]

There you go again putting words in my month. I said I look at the media like 48 hours mystery that has facts for the most part not opinion. The opinion in the show came from a FBI agent here in the states all I took from him was the facts that show 3 men passing around the bra clasp. Would you like me to name all the other media that I look at. DO I NEED TO HOLD YOUR HAND. Are you the most disliked person in your high school cause you sure do sound like one.

 

Please could you answer my question of the bloody shirt or keys. Do you have anything at all to say?