Amanda Knox - Guilty or Innocent

[Rhodes]

I wonder what Loosely's plans are for Christmas, same old same old I expect.

Did you see that Sir Richard Branson has spoken up in defence of our heroine, fair play to him, he has gone up in my estimation:

 

http://groundreport.com/amanda-knox-haters-target-richard-branson/

[Rhodes]

I would be most grateful if members could please sign this petition if you don't mind requesting that the activities of local law enforcement authorities and consular staff in Italy be meticulously investigated in the aftermath of the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia on 1 November 2007. The case of The Italian State vs Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will come before the Italian Supreme Court on 25 March 2015 and this petition requests that a full investigation takes place, there were multiple violations of National and International laws by the totally incompetent prosecution in Italy which undermined the rights of defendants Amanda and Raffaele Sollecito to a fair trial, the petition asks that those responsible for perverting the course of justice be held to account. Many thanks in advance, copies will be sent to the Ministero della Giustizia of Italy, the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and the US Department of State:

 

http://injusticeanywhereforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=3138&sid=296ffd0cfe2255576de3f2114a55a4a0

[Rhodes]

Here we go folks, everything you wanted to know about the case, in black and white and accompanied by music, but were afraid to ask, enjoy:

 

[Rhodes]

I read this interesting article folks about the disfunctional Italian 'justice' system:

 

Italian justice is at a crossroads. Italy has the dubious distinction of being the Western European country with the highest number of negative judgments made against it by the European Court of Human Rights – and by a considerable margin. Many of its citizens have only secured justice after years of struggle when judges outside Italy have corrected multiple wrong decisions.
A 2012 report said that mechanisms put in place to fight corruption in Italy are easily circumvented, while the country’s legal framework is often complex, contradictory and at times ‘controversially implemented’. Italy falls short on many counts, said Lorenzo Segato – director of the Research Centre on Security and Crime, based in Torri di Quartesolo – which carried out the study for the global anti-corruption agency, Transparency International. Problems include questionable institutional integrity, weak control mechanisms, biased news media, and a social code that condones certain illegalities.
Currently, Italy has a backlog of around nine million legal cases: 5.5million civil and 3.4million criminal. The state paid €84million in compensation for miscarriages of justice and legal delays in 2011, when there were nearly 50,000 such claims, compared to 3,500 in 2003. Another €46million was paid out to people unjustly thrown in jail. Some 42 per cent of those in jail – 28,000 people – are awaiting trial, and the prison population of 68,000 inmates is housed in institutions intended for 45,000. There are 1.39 Italian judges for every 10,000 inhabitants, compared with the average of 0.91 in other European countries.
According to the World Bank’s annual report in 2007, Italy ranks 155th out of 178 countries surveyed for efficiency of justice. Court processes last on average 116 months in Italy, against 34 months in Austria, and delays are increasing year on year. Between 1975 and 2004, the duration of civil cases increased by 90 per cent. Between 1999 and 2007, the European Court ruled against Italy 948 times for failing to meet the timing of a fair trial. It is estimated that in each case at least two defendants are involved, so 16million Italians, or one in four of the population, have pending cases. Less than one per cent of corrupt or incompetent judges lose their jobs. Between 1999 and 2006, there were 1,010 disciplinary proceedings, but only six judges were sacked.
Italian jurisprudence is in thrall to dietrologia, rather than Occam’s razor. This means that a complicated, unlikely crime scenario is preferred to a straightforward one. The courts are virtually untouchable and provide a counterbalance to corruptible and frequently changing governments. With near absolute power and no political interference, the law is controlled by the ‘Party of the Prosecutors’, an informal alliance of magistrates who often put saving face ahead of justice. This is the context of the railroading of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito. Once this is understood, the apparent twists and turns inherent in the Italian process become almost comprehensible.

[Horace]

Rhodes. Does your hyper-activity on this forum over the festive period mean that you actually have the internet at home these days, or have you been able to spend all day online at work because the boss is away?

[Rhodes]

Horace - I don't hear Ian complaining, the Forum was deathly quiet over the Christmas period and I must be helping him to line his pockets. Happy New Year to you and yours.

[Horace]

Horace - I don't hear Ian complaining, the Forum was deathly quiet over the Christmas period and I must be helping him to line his pockets. Happy New Year to you and yours.

Happy New Year to you too Rhodes. Are you holding the fort in MOD(Air) during the Christmas/ New Year break?

[Rhodes]

Here we go folks, a brief, previously unheard, audio recording of our heroine being interrogated by Italian police in 2007, disgusting!:

 

[Loose]

Sounds like someone being caught out in a lie. 

 

Ahh.. I see your problem Rhodesly.

[Big J R]

She's certainly not my 'heroine'  !!

[Rhodes]

She's certainly not my 'heroine'  !!

Big J R - Why do you say that, she has been to hell and back!

[Rhodes]

It wasn't widely reported that a substantial amount of money was missing from Meredith's purse after she was killed, Rudy Guede was jobless and penniless and about to be evicted for not having the funds to pay his rent yet the Police didn't immediately ask what he used to pay for his escape to Germany before he was apprehended and extradited back to Italy:

 

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Rudy.html

[Loose]

Strangely the other flatmates confirm that Knox was 'free & easy' in helping herself to a few notes from purses and that Meredith was due to confront Knox about some missing money.

 

Yup, the murdering, lying, slandering Knox was known to be light fingered too.

[Rhodes]

Loosely - Where did you get that from, Amanda is as honest as the day is long, if she ever needed money, which she didn't, she only needed to let her devoted parents Edda or Curt know and it would be wired or posted to her immediately.

[Loose]

Loosely - Where did you get that from, Amanda is as honest as the day is long, if she ever needed money, which she didn't, she only needed to let her devoted parents Edda or Curt know and it would be wired or posted to her immediately.

Well if you'd been bothered to read it, it was in the Trial Evidence.

 

But then, you don't do facts do you?

[Karen Browne]

Facts only get in the way of Mr Rhodes excessive trawling of dead threads as he tries to stir up responses to his innane tripe

[Rhodes]

Well if you'd been bothered to read it, it was in the Trial Evidence

Yes but only circumstantial evidence

[Loose]

Yes but only circumstantial evidence

Bit more than your total invention and mis-direction elsewhere.

 

Desperate stuff now from 'Manda supporters, hoping something will stick!

[Bad Seed]

Big J R - Why do you say that, she has been to hell and back!

It is a shame she made the return journey.

[Rhodes]

Bad Seed - The wrongful arrest for Meredith's murder, the conviction, four year prison ordeal in Italy for a crime she didn't commit and the aftermath following her return to Seattle has totally destroyed poor Amanda's life, that's why I said she has been to hell and back which is a fair description albeit still a huge understatement!