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Reasons for Terry's departure


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After seeing Nev in action last night, so to speak, and securing the services of Harwood, Edusi etc, I now agree with Wellsie, time to move on and I say give give Big Nev the job and see what he can do

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As someone who has a tenuous link with the Yorath family, I thought I would sign up to the forums and shed some light on Terry's departure with what I know.

 

I know that Terry was getting increasingly frustrated with Piper due to his inability to let go of funds so Terry could add to his squad. The average age of the squad is very young, too young. Terry wanted experience in the squad, hence the reason he somehow managed to bring in JK. Often, when the Gate where trailing, he would look round onto his subs bench, and see lads who had barely any experience. He needed some strength in depth, someone on the bench who could come on and try and change the game. He didn't have that. Piper wouldn't give him any money to spend, and Terry didn't have enough players of the correct calibre/experience to work with. It was a huge uphill challenge, one he clearly didnt believe he had the stomach for.

 

He liked it down here in Margate. He even has some family round here. I dont think there were any personal reasons for leaving, all professional reasons as far as I am aware.

 

 

Im sorry, i normally just observe this and all the other local sites of teams in kent but i really have to throw something into the hat on this topic.

 

I have been a Margate fan all my life ever since i wore the blue shirt as a kid. Yes i still play now, not for Margate, but would like to remain annonymous so do not ask!!

 

Im sorry but Terry Yorath resigns because of lack of support wage wise?? absolute nonsense. Every body knows that the club in the past have plowed ridiculous amounts of money into wages, almost to the point where the club is no more! Talking to fellow players etc it is common knowledge that margates wage budget in massively supperior to other clubs such as Ramsgate, Whitstable and Folkestone, similar to Maidstones, Tonbridge angels and obviously not as much as the likes of dover/dartford.

 

The managers over the last decade have wasted a lot of money, every player knew that robin trott only got in his mates, its a fact he sorted them out ridiculous money. I heard a story about the signing of Michael Yanni from Ramsgate with makes me cringe as a supporter and sums up why the club is now on the verge, or has been of a financial precipit.

 

Yorath has had plenty of support but wasted it left right and centre. The only players he has attracted are journey man players looking for a quick buck, you think John Keister is taking less than £400 a week? no he is not, fact people, the man is pushing 40 and just cannot run. Or the new goalkeeper taking £450 per week?? Ben Lewis £400 a week? he is not worth £100 a week, people laugh when they hear about him on that sort of money.

 

My point is that players know that Margate is an easy option to cash in and have been for years. They have wasted money on average players from elsewhere (you have to ask the question why would a player who is any good travel all the way to Margate to get a game when there are numerous clubs near by at the same standard and higher/lower for them to go to in their area)

 

The club has been mugged for a good while now and its time that the club learned to walk before they run as throwing money will not stabalise the club. The current squad have no team spirit no guts no B*llox when it comes to it, a mixture of journeymen money grabbers and young players who think because they were at a pro club when they were 10 it means they are good enough. It does not work like that

 

My example, there latest signing, quasi has been at a ridiculous amount of clubs who have looked at his past and thought yeah he is worth a go and then suddenly realised that actually he is no good. How many clubs do you think he rang before pitching up at margate, name dropping his 'bigger' clubs (when he was a kid) and turning up at a club that entertains that sort of player.

 

Come on now, wise up!

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Welcome to the forum, nice to have someone on here with firm opinions.

 

However, I don't see what alternative the club has. Geographically, we have to pay good wages to get players down here.

 

I don't know how many times you've seen us this season but Keister is still excellent at this level. Yes, he can't run, but he doesn't have to.

 

I think most people would agree that signing Lewis has been a mistake.

 

I think Nicholls may well be on more than £450!

 

But the harsh truth (and no doubt this will upset someone) is that very, very few local youngsters have proved good enough to play Ryman football. They leave here and drop down the leagues, not up. People whine that Margate 'destroyed' them when the truth is they weren't good enough anyway.

 

The reality is if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. And I hardly think players being money-grabbers is unique to Margate!

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yes we do spend a lot on wages, its a well known fact, I dont think anyone has tried to deny it. I am not overly convinced that we have a mass of bad players though. Maybe there are some players earning money that they would not get from their local clubs, but if thats what we have to pay to get them here than so be it. Margate have always attracted players from out of the area, (peter trego?) The team spirit does seem to be lacking though, it would be good if we could manage to play as a team for more than 10 minutes out of every 90. If we can get a manager who can pull the team together I think we will be a lot better off than we are now.

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I think most people would agree that signing Lewis has been a mistake.

 

I think Nicholls may well be on more than £450!

 

I'm in the minority then it seems. Ben Lewis has had ONE really,really poor game v Cray (I know, I've said it before) but again, (I know,I've said it before) ALL the team had a poor one that day. Against Horsham, again no player did good but Lewis was certainly better on the day than most. In all other games I've seen, Ben Lewis he has been immaculate. Okay he's getting on a bit,needs a bit more fitness training maybe but he wins headers on a regular basis & generally does well for us at the back. I fail to see where all this negativity about him comes from. Is he worth whatever money he is on? Who knows! Without actually knowing (& not guessing) what money he is on it's not a question I can answer.

People have & are allowed opinions I suppose & I respect that but I still find myself confused by this negativity about him..

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maybe people are expecting more from Ben Lewis than he has been showing. I cant comment obviously I havent seen the player in question myself, but it seemed like he had a steady game on Saturday.

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I think most people would agree that signing Lewis has been a mistake.

 

I think Nicholls may well be on more than £450!

 

I'm in the minority then it seems. Ben Lewis has had ONE really,really poor game v Cray (I know, I've said it before) but again, (I know,I've said it before) ALL the team had a poor one that day. Against Horsham, again no player did good but Lewis was certainly better on the day than most. In all other games I've seen, Ben Lewis he has been immaculate. Okay he's getting on a bit,needs a bit more fitness training maybe but he wins headers on a regular basis & generally does wel for us at the back.I fail to see where all this negativity about him comes from. But people have & are allowed opinions I suppose. Confused by the negativity though.

 

Why has Harwood been signed then? We will obviously offload at least one centre-half, especially when Dan Young returns.

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Everybody says Liam Harwood is obviously capable of playing above this level, 2 or 3 steps higher at least. It would seem obvious if a player of that calibre came available he would be an obvious signing for any club wanting to move forward. The signing of Liam Harwood does not necessarily mean that the players we already have here are not good enough for this level. If the sisning had been from a club lower down the league structure than I could see that as a hint our current defense were not good enough.

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I think most people would agree that signing Lewis has been a mistake.

 

I think Nicholls may well be on more than £450!

 

I'm in the minority then it seems. Ben Lewis has had ONE really,really poor game v Cray (I know, I've said it before) but again, (I know,I've said it before) ALL the team had a poor one that day. Against Horsham, again no player did good but Lewis was certainly better on the day than most. In all other games I've seen, Ben Lewis he has been immaculate. Okay he's getting on a bit,needs a bit more fitness training maybe but he wins headers on a regular basis & generally does wel for us at the back.I fail to see where all this negativity about him comes from. But people have & are allowed opinions I suppose. Confused by the negativity though.

 

Why has Harwood been signed then? We will obviously offload at least one centre-half, especially when Dan Young returns.

 

Yes it's a big possibilty CE, I won't deny that but I was talking about his form on the pitch & the unfair criticism (i.m.o.) that he has recieved about his form. If he is to be surplus to requirements I wont have seen it as his form on the pitch that has led to the departure. If any other problems off the pitch were to be the reason for him making way for Harwood then again I can't comment without knowing the facts.

His wage to pay for Harwood? Again, a high possibilty & with Harwood being a class act & being younger it would make sense to balance the books somewhere.

I'm backing Bens corner anyway if no-one else is & if he were to go I for one will have been grateful to him for his efforts.

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Cookie I believe in supporting anybody in the margate team that the management see fit to play. If the management hink he is good enough to play, thats good enough for me. If we have to lose Ben Lewis to make way fot Liam Harwood then that is fair enough, but if Ben Lewis stays and plays then he will get 100% support from me.

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I'm sure he will Fred. Mind you after having just praised the guy it would be odds on that if he played on Saturday he would now probably have a shocker. I hope not & if he does play alongside,or behind Harwood he gives us of his best.

Those two ( together with Dan Young at the back) & Keister moving to midfield would be my ideal.

I know,cost is a factor having all of them,I appreciate that & maybe my ideal isn't possible. Anyway, enough said .What will be will be.

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You never know what is going on 'behind the scenes'

 

For all we know-Fulham may have bid £1m for Dan Young (well they brought Smalling).

Will Harwood stay ? Will he cope with the travelling ? We don't know what sort of contract he is on-he may just see it as a short term fix until another club comes in for him

 

What about Louis Smith -will he stay now or eye pastures new

 

Have'nt we seen it so many times before- todays glut is tomorrows famine .

 

Things move very quickly-one minute too many defenders,a month later-for various reasons, you are short of them..

 

I still think we are short in central midfield (i'm not convinced JK has the stamina to play there and is thus better as sweeper ).Whats the bettng that by Christmas ,we have too many midfeld players and not enough defenders.

 

Lat season until Christmans-we were short of strikers-then after Christmans there were loads of them at the same time (all pretty useless though )

 

With the current arguably surplus number of defenders, i hope sods law does not strike and someone gets badly injured.I will have a small wager though that a defender gets sent off in the next two games !!

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Agree with CE about the local youth. Ramsgate gabble on about how they get thanet youth in

and on the whole they are proven to be nowhere good enough. I cringe when people say they

have seen a decent player on a sunday who could cut it at this level. Dream on. These

types are now struggling at the likes of Deal and Herne Bay no doubt still thinking they should

be here. A very small town mentality from them.

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