MK Dons Article

[Windsor Rebel]

http://www.wefc.co.uk/news/090717b.asp

 

Have you lot read this yet? I nearly split my sides! All credit to Windsor for getting a friendly with them, but this article is

the worst case of brown nosing i have seen in ages. Also,the first two paragraphs are full of spelling mistakes, so surely you cannot expect anyone to take the rest seriously? Send your vice chairman back to school.

[TRS]

Shameful pro-franchising clap trap.

 

Indebted to Peter Winkleman indeed.

 

Watch out, you never know who may be next.....

[Joel]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Sorry did someone say something? Or was I just thinking of something I've heard before? lol

[Mrs_Cat]

I don't think football is indebted to Winkleman but I suppose you could call him a visionary. Most people thought MK-Dons were doomed to failure but like it or not it

[TRS]

I've always thought MK would be a relative success, that's of no relevance to my view of franchising in principle. People don't seem to be able to separate that from Wimbledon FC/AFC Wimbledon.

 

If MK hadn't been allowed, Wimbledon FC would either still be going or there's a chance it could have died. Wimbledon FC is dead - that is a fact. The sole purpose of moving Wimbledon FC was not to save it, but to deliver instant League football to MK - another fact. Even Winkleman & Co now admit they are a new club that started in 2004.

 

Our away support was sometimes pitiful - no argument there. We had more home fans in the last (pre-franchise) SP season than we do have at AFCW. Are you saying any club with poor support is ripe to be franchised? Accrington get crap crowds, Truro want a league club so why not speed up the process? Macclesfield get crap crowds, Newport County have more potential - what do you reckon? I think merging Windsor & Eton with Slough could form a super club for the area - at least the Slough fans would inject a bit of passion

 

Re Wimbledon fans not being passionate, the fact a new club was started from scratch and has progressed to the top tier of non-league without a sugar daddy in 7 years suggests otherwise. But there again, we took the easy option didn't we.

[windsorian]

WR its not brown nosing its called paying a compliment. Maybe you could learn something there.Probably why we are playing league one sides and your playing flackwell heath.

 

p.s

I'm not sure of the pubs around the cressex but you could always pop into asda, they have some deals on carling at the moement.

[windsorian]

TRS talking to some of the Dons fans on saturday who followed wimbledon when they relocated they are very passionate about their club,and felt that many wimbledon fans jumped ship too soon. The change of name in 2004 was taken as a way forward to identify with the area and still keep Dons in the name.

Whenever i have seen afc their fans have been very quiet.

im told the MK Dons fans are very vocal whatever the game,whatever the score.

[TRS]

I can see i'm pretty hopeless at getting my points over, so i'll bother you no more.

 

Good luck for the season ahead.

[Windsor Rebel]

TRS: as a Slough fan take it from me you are wasting your time

on Windsorian and his clueless mate Woody WEFC, they have no idea

about business or football.

 

Also, Windsorian, did playing MK Dons generate any extra income

for WEFC, or would you have had more fans playing us or Maidenhead for example? Have a little think about it and if you are baffled ask one of your more intelligent fans.

[Woody SUFC]

More money via MK Fans WR. Maidenhead freindlys in the past have not brought in anything like that and i doubt Maidehead fans would buy Windsor shirts either!!!

 

Maidenhead may bring 50 if we're lucky.

[Windsor Rebel]

What was the crowd then Woody? On the website its got attendance

as: ***

Referee: Unknown.

 

Surely you thought to ask the ref. his name?

[Woody SUFC]

Perhaps malc is rating the crowd out of 5 stars?!

 

Does it really matter what the refs name was?

[Windsor Rebel]

Well looking at Joels photos and on the website doesnt look to be too many there. Also, a couple of your fans were watching over the fence- are they too tight to pay the entrance fee and support the club i wonder? Also, its a bit discourteous to the ref who made the effort to travel to the game and then be listed as unknown.

[The Hovis Kid]

WR, the fans you see hanging over the fence are the usual burden to the non-league game. They are there week in, week out. If it was my way I'd shoot them but that isn't going to rub with my boss.

 

The corwd, well in my guestimastion i'd say there was a few hundred there. The Dons fans got right into it buying merchandise and spending a lot on beer so it was good for us. Not a massive gate but they seemed to be throwing money into our club.

 

As for a pre-season game with Maidenhead, we have that too. Come down if Slough aren't playing. Might as well use the Saturday to watch football regardless of the sides.

 

As for playing you, I'm hoping we can meet in the Berks & Bucks Cup down Stag Meadow then knock you out with a good 3 nil win to face MK Dons at home in the next round.

 

MK Dons fans for away fans of the season already!

[Windsor Rebel]

Thanks for the invite Hovis, i may well do that!

[Geggy]

WR, the paying crowd was 306, excluding season ticket holders and players guests, and general guests of club, plus a few youth team, so all in the crowd was around the 400 mark.

[Fuzzy Royal]

Immagine if we had played slough, a sell out for sure as they are clearly the best supported club in the universe, oh my it has started again LOL!!!

As fopr the franchise, what makes it unacceptable. AFC played at Selhurst Park for over 10 years I believe, not THAT close to Wimbledon if my geography is correct, and now play at Kingstonian's old ground, also not in Wimbledon. MK Dons play in MK, also not in Wimbledon.Are AFC a new franchise, just owend by the people who cared about and loved the old club? I guess it depends on how far you allow a club to move to be still considered the old club, how about Woolwich Arsenal, are they the original franchise club?

I would like to say thanks to MK Dons for coming down and for their fans putting some much needed funds into the club. We would not have got anywhere near as many fans for pretty much any other club outside the conference, maybe.So well worth it, i hope Wycombe will bring a few tomorrow and a few neutrals will come along as well and the club makes a few pennies.

And WR, good to have you back on the message board, like a chilli sauce sneaked into a mild dish, you add a lot of spice and we all wish you hadn't been added, but often enjoy the repurcussions, good luck for the coming season and hope we get to meet you in a cup (as long as we win!!)

[dansilk]

One other thing hugely in Winkelman's favour - I noticed he got an extra chant after the game, while we were waiting for the players to go in: and then he made a point of standing outside the dressing rooms and shaking the hands of as many supporters (of both sides) as he could.

A small touch, perhaps, but something I haven't seen from any other chairman and especially nice from a substantially larger club.

 

Windsorian, I think you're too harsh on the AFC fans if you call them quiet - the matches I've been to when we played them were both by far the best-attended and among the noisiest (I think Lewes may have been louder). Maybe they only used to take 50-odd away, but AFC took over 20 times that to us.