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[andyetfc]

Originally Posted By: Southport - TOWNER

Originally Posted By: andyetfc

Originally Posted By: Steph

I think we can slag of the management as much as we like however that will not improve the situation.

All share holders have the right to voice their disappointment with the current management set up and want answers as to why we are so poor in a league which is not a patch on those previously played in.

If it's broke, then it needs fixing.

what about non share holders? you know those that walk through the gate, hand over cash and support their club, but don't have a share certificate, are they not allowed a voice?
That would be a shame if they can not air an opinion

AND WHAT about those who follow the Towns result, via the media? I have several people, ok maybe about 10,(none of whom go to games on anything that could be called a regular basis) who follow Town via the paper, website, or officiate and they all have an opinions, are they not allowed to express those points of view?

Certainly agree with every word. However, you know as well as I do that the board can only be officially answereable to its shareholders.

[Enfield United]

Originally Posted By: andyetfc

Originally Posted By: Steph

I think we can slag of the management as much as we like however that will not improve the situation.

All share holders have the right to voice their disappointment with the current management set up and want answers as to why we are so poor in a league which is not a patch on those previously played in.

If it's broke, then it needs fixing.

First and foremost Andy Jones as captain-your having a laugh, I agree he had a very good game last night upto his own goal (2nd goal) and his spirit and confidence drained away or he was suffering from match fitness having missed out 4 games for his sh1te challenge on the Wingate keeper.

1st goal-Luke was very weak in his effort to challenge a ball in a central position which left our defence vulnerable, and it was.

2nd-goal an OG by Jones as he was back peddalling into Wild who would have tidied up even though his call was heard by myself high up in the shabby sh1tty stand I was sitting in.

3rd goal- Poor Jones defending on the byeline, trying to be clever but got robbed and they score.

4th-goal a semi powered shot that a keeper in form would save, however being 3-0 down and bearing in mind the conditions, Walton gets the benefit of the doubt for that one.

First 5 mins- Winston had two gilt edged chances to firstly get a shot on target or indeed score, his left side is probably not his strongest and his efforts were woeful.

Other chances? Ellis's dreadfully timed volley from approx 8-9 yards out that went out for a throw and a wild header just going wide.

Leyton were not far more superior than us but had springs in their steps as we gifted them goals and as we did not take our chances. Dont get me wrong, we did not play scintilating footy, but I have'nt seen a team do so at this level yet to date.

Add to that Rudi's poor performance, Wild desperately needs a defensive partner, Winston needs a goal and I'm sorry Luke, but your not my first choice player at this level. Plus one of our better performers gifted Leyton 2 goals in Jonesy, i'm not criticising him but what can a management team do? drop Jones? but he played well!!!!!!!!!! but gave away 2 goals.

The magic word is gel not sack.

We need to get back from injury Edgar, Noel, Roberts, Deane just to mention 4 that come to mind, we need to replace Woolf and Stevenson properly. Its been the same story all season. Having spoken to SB he has quality players proven and ready to join but will not bring them in while a couple of board members are undermining him, and it is not until then that proper team re-inforcements will be made.

Steph/Andy-You must have heard what all the chat was about last night at Leyton, the board have to fix their cracks first. And Steph B4 you slate me, I have offered to be on the board today and to be a DO-ER but I'm staying where I am til they are United and sort out the individuels who are dragging our club down. And thats not the management, trust me on that one.

Gazza-your a sensible fella from what I read in your comments, but member or not, I recommend you to chat with SB and you'll see and hear the obstacles that he has to hurdle to bring in a championship winning team to our club. He wont bring in those players while he does'nt have 100% support from all corners of the board with access to training and pitch facilities just to mention a couple of things.

As for the 'silly supporters' bring on an EGM, as Keegan said 'i'd love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

[Arkwright]

Glad to hear you've offered your services to be on the board & hope you can go on it sooner rather than later.

Personnaly I feel that SB can deliver the successful team that will be essential to take to the new ground the season after next.

 

[lovely stuff]

Quote:

Having spoken to SB he has quality players proven and ready to join but will not bring them in while a couple of board members are undermining him

 

So if the board would stop undermining him,he'll start bringing in proven quality players,rather than the mediocre players he's brought in so far.Always nice to know

[OldTowner]

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Quote:

Having spoken to SB he has quality players proven and ready to join but will not bring them in while a couple of board members are undermining him

So if the board would stop undermining him,he'll start bringing in proven quality players,rather than the mediocre players he's brought in so far.Always nice to know

Q - Are they THAT good ?

If SB thought he was here "long term" why would he be reluctant to bring in his creme da la creme and then show the directors just how good he is.

It does all seem to be about SB - EU talks to him on a daily basis - but what about SM ( The Manager )?

Silence !!

[Enfield United]

Originally Posted By: OldTowner

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Quote:

Having spoken to SB he has quality players proven and ready to join but will not bring them in while a couple of board members are undermining him

So if the board would stop undermining him,he'll start bringing in proven quality players,rather than the mediocre players he's brought in so far.Always nice to know

Q - Are they THAT good ?

If SB thought he was here "long term" why would he be reluctant to bring in his creme da la creme and then show the directors just how good he is.

It does all seem to be about SB - EU talks to him on a daily basis - but what about SM ( The Manager )?

Silence !!

Well lets think about it more realistically gentlemen.

SB can only bring with him players that are available and or willing. The 'better' players will obviously be tied to their clubs as a form of their committments probably challenging for some silverware, so why come to ETFC now????? I hope that clears the 'mediocre' jibe.

Why would SB bring better players when some board members are undermining him whoever he brings in. SB has to be honest with the better players and not bring them into a club that has some issues to resolve.

Basically some people need to go either from the board or from the management OR wait for it, Persons need to stretch out a hand of consolidarity, so by gones can be by gones and we all work in unity backing each other up for a big challenge next season.

[lovely stuff]

Better players are tied to other clubs??? Not at this level they are not.As proved by the exodus of half of our players this season.

 

Also which of SB's previous players are 'challenging for silverware' then.

 

Face it,most the players he has had a hand in bringing in so far,haven't been any good.If he continues to bring in mediocrity then those on the board that don't like him will be even more against him.

 

 

 

[Gazza]

Originally Posted By: Enfield United

....Basically some people need to go either from the board or from the management....

Not rocket science is it!

[Tom S]

 

You were going so well up to that point

[dogs cheddar]

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[Gazza]

Originally Posted By: Tom S

You were going so well up to that point

Have to agree, never been accussed of that! That would just be too dull!!

[Enfield United]

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Better players are tied to other clubs??? Not at this level they are not.As proved by the exodus of half of our players this season.

Also which of SB's previous players are 'challenging for silverware' then.

Face it,most the players he has had a hand in bringing in so far,haven't been any good.If he continues to bring in mediocrity then those on the board that don't like him will be even more against him.

Sounds like your anti-SB too.

I've stressed B4 that the Wingate match had the line-up to drive us forward Walton, Noel, Woolf (decided to go to Harlow), Wild, Marcel, Deane, Hall (weak link), MCcoy, Ellis, Edgar, Roberts. That is a very powerful line-up that could've won the league this season, so long as we had decent back-up of squad players which we dont.

The players who left were the ones that made me cringe as they challenged studs first into players chests or knees, they were'nt footballers.

[Enfield United]

Originally Posted By: Squadron Leader

Originally Posted By: Steph

Andy

I am not disagreeing with you. Slagging off though does not improve the situation. We have gone through at least 4 changes of personnel at management level this season but retained the manager. It demonstrates to me that, perhaps, staff cannot work with the current manager.

We have also gone through 54 players in club colours this term, without counting friendlies when, it seemed we went through many changes in every game yet we still have not got a settled side.

Perhaps the players cannot work with the current management.

What I do not like is the criticism of loyal club servants who have been with the club since its inception and have done more for the club than any other member of the playing or management staff.

There are many that make suggestions as to what should or should not be done but do not step up to the plate when volunteers are called for. I have seen servants, including you, stewarding, selling tickets, working in the committee rooms, working in the shop and yet all I hear is "we should do ......." without saying, "I am willing to do ........"

I totally agree with you Steph. I think you may well find that now that there will be several people who are now going to say "I am going to do" or "Going to STOP doing"

I find it all really very sad and depressing, whatever has happened to "OUR" Club?

It is sad SL and its not what the club was set up as. Its nearing the end of the season and we are gonna need some sort of restructering and that will need a few of us on the outside to make suggestions, offer our contacts and get back to running the club as it should be.

[andyetfc]

Originally Posted By: Enfield United

Originally Posted By: Squadron Leader

Originally Posted By: Steph

Andy

I am not disagreeing with you. Slagging off though does not improve the situation. We have gone through at least 4 changes of personnel at management level this season but retained the manager. It demonstrates to me that, perhaps, staff cannot work with the current manager.

We have also gone through 54 players in club colours this term, without counting friendlies when, it seemed we went through many changes in every game yet we still have not got a settled side.

Perhaps the players cannot work with the current management.

What I do not like is the criticism of loyal club servants who have been with the club since its inception and have done more for the club than any other member of the playing or management staff.

There are many that make suggestions as to what should or should not be done but do not step up to the plate when volunteers are called for. I have seen servants, including you, stewarding, selling tickets, working in the committee rooms, working in the shop and yet all I hear is "we should do ......." without saying, "I am willing to do ........"

I totally agree with you Steph. I think you may well find that now that there will be several people who are now going to say "I am going to do" or "Going to STOP doing"

I find it all really very sad and depressing, whatever has happened to "OUR" Club?

It is sad SL and its not what the club was set up as. Its nearing the end of the season and we are gonna need some sort of restructering and that will need a few of us on the outside to make suggestions, offer our contacts and get back to running the club as it should be.

There may be some people who think there is nothing wrong at the moment!

[lovely stuff]

Originally Posted By: Enfield United

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Better players are tied to other clubs??? Not at this level they are not.As proved by the exodus of half of our players this season.

Also which of SB's previous players are 'challenging for silverware' then.

Face it,most the players he has had a hand in bringing in so far,haven't been any good.If he continues to bring in mediocrity then those on the board that don't like him will be even more against him.

Sounds like your anti-SB too.

I've stressed B4 that the Wingate match had the line-up to drive us forward Walton, Noel, Woolf (decided to go to Harlow), Wild, Marcel, Deane, Hall (weak link), MCcoy, Ellis, Edgar, Roberts. That is a very powerful line-up that could've won the league this season, so long as we had decent back-up of squad players which we dont.

The players who left were the ones that made me cringe as they challenged studs first into players chests or knees, they were'nt footballers.

Town have only perfomed on the pitch 3 times this season.Abbey/Wingate at home and Maldon away..To suggest that we have a team capable of winning the league after the wingage game,is as absurd as suggesting that Town are capapble of coming bottom after the Leyton display..The truth remains that we are currently a mediocre mid table side..And for the vast majority of fans that is NOT acceptable at this level and never will be.Chandler got sacked for having one mid table season,don't forget,because we rightly felt that was not acceptable.

ps..Nothing against SB.My judgement is not clouded by whether he is friendly and approchable or not.I base my opinions soley on results and how we perfom on the pitch week in week out..But i do accept he may have been hindered slightly so far with regards to injuries and less than 100% backing from a few people at the club.

[coupwotcoup]

What goes around, stays around..

[OldTowner]

Originally Posted By: coupwotcoup

What goes around, stays around..

Coup,
Perhaps you could give us a complete run-down on OUR Club and OUR Team performances so far this season, together with your required actions to deal with any issues you feel appropriate at this stage in the season.



OR,.........mind your own business !!!!

[Albury_Walker]

Originally Posted By: OldTowner

Originally Posted By: coupwotcoup

What goes around, stays around..

Coup,
Perhaps you could give us a complete run-down on OUR Club and OUR Team performances so far this season, together with your required actions to deal with any issues you feel appropriate at this stage in the season.



OR,.........mind your own business !!!!

Looks like its already being run down

[OldTowner]

AW,

Nice one

[Enfield United]

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Originally Posted By: Enfield United

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

Better players are tied to other clubs??? Not at this level they are not.As proved by the exodus of half of our players this season.

Also which of SB's previous players are 'challenging for silverware' then.

Face it,most the players he has had a hand in bringing in so far,haven't been any good.If he continues to bring in mediocrity then those on the board that don't like him will be even more against him.

Sounds like your anti-SB too.

I've stressed B4 that the Wingate match had the line-up to drive us forward Walton, Noel, Woolf (decided to go to Harlow), Wild, Marcel, Deane, Hall (weak link), MCcoy, Ellis, Edgar, Roberts. That is a very powerful line-up that could've won the league this season, so long as we had decent back-up of squad players which we dont.

The players who left were the ones that made me cringe as they challenged studs first into players chests or knees, they were'nt footballers.

Town have only perfomed on the pitch 3 times this season.Abbey/Wingate at home and Maldon away..To suggest that we have a team capable of winning the league after the wingage game,is as absurd as suggesting that Town are capapble of coming bottom after the Leyton display..The truth remains that we are currently a mediocre mid table side..And for the vast majority of fans that is NOT acceptable at this level and never will be.Chandler got sacked for having one mid table season,don't forget,because we rightly felt that was not acceptable.

ps..Nothing against SB.My judgement is not clouded by whether he is friendly and approchable or not.I base my opinions soley on results and how we perfom on the pitch week in week out..But i do accept he may have been hindered slightly so far with regards to injuries and less than 100% backing from a few people at the club.

My suggestion was that the eleven players listed could win this league had they started the season together and steered clear of long suspensions and injuries.