Today's game

[Wizard( RWG )]

Last weeks clean sheet gave the optimists the false impression there was to be a new dawn rising.Todays game was lost through another lack of early concentration and the ill disipline of Harper later on in the game,and not for the first time in Harpers case-what is it about short folk chucking their toys out of the pram?

[Guest Anonymous]

Isn't strange that you have not passed a comment and as soon as the side lose you open your mouth, well its probably about time you realised that nobody is interested in your comments unless you have something sensible or constructive to add

[rebel1963]

your comments sound like they have come from match updates as opposed to actually having seen the game.

Do agree about harper though,how fans could clap him off the pitch is ridiculous,what a ******, hope he never plays for the club again.

[Guest Anonymous]

Sounds like you have a hate campaign against Harper doubt if you would be brave enough to speak to him man to man its a shame that for 2 tackles which my or may not have been bookable offences you think he should not play for the club go on be a man and speak to him or is what a ****** talking about yourself

[Wizard( RWG )]

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Isn't strange that you have not passed a comment and as soon as the side lose you open your mouth, well its probably about time you realised that nobody is interested in your comments unless you have something sensible or constructive to add

I have something sensible for you-how about putting a registered name to your silly post.

[rebel1963]

One negative post hardly constitutes a hate campaign,it doesnt

 

matter if it may or may not have been bookable offences. the

 

referee made his decision. how many times is it harper has been

 

sent off now. All clubs have their limit on sendings off before

 

the player is shown the door.

 

Hope this answers your questions as i only just understood your

 

post because of your poor english.

[mrgh]

WRONG

 

Todays game was lost before Harper was sent off. His dismissal had nothing to do with it.

 

Harper plays with a passion that most others lack and if you took that away he wouldn't be the same player. He has arguably been one of our best players for the last two seasons. If you take Harper then I guess you have to accept you're going to see yellow and red cards too, especially with the standard of refereeing at this level

[rebel1963]

It has nothing to do with losing it is about club discipline!

 

[Guest Anonymous]

ok mr harper.

your the best ever slough player.and also your well hard so i will not be talking to you.

 

what a joke the lad is

[Reading Rebel]

Originally Posted By: mrgh

WRONG

Todays game was lost before Harper was sent off. His dismissal had nothing to do with it.

Harper plays with a passion that most others lack and if you took that away he wouldn't be the same player. He has arguably been one of our best players for the last two seasons. If you take Harper then I guess you have to accept you're going to see yellow and red cards too, especially with the standard of refereeing at this
level

Firstly, I will agree with you that Harper plays with his heart on his sleeve but without a certain amount of self disciline a player can be detrimental to a team and can cost them points during a season.

Agree with you that Harper has been one of our better players especially this season but every player needs to be aware of their responsibilities to the team and what effect it could have on the team if they keep getting sent off.

The game was effectively lost today by a very poor first half performance but who knows what would have happened if Harper had stayed on the pitch?

[rebel1963]

all i was saying was you cant continually get sent off and remain with a club,different clubs have different policies,under some clubs criteria harper would have walked long ago.

what i was criticising mainly was harper being applauded as he left the field,surely a dignified silence would have been more fitting.

the thing is todays game doesnt really take discipline seriously,bookings and sending offs and bad sportsmanship are an accepted part of the game.

years ago poor discipline was looked down upon,in the amateur and non-league game in particularyou wouldnt generally applaud a sent off player(wiz will confirm this from yesteryear)

I dont know what sloughs policy is but too many more sendings off and i cant see him playing next season great player or not.

[Reading Rebel]

Originally Posted By: rebel1963

all i was saying was you cant continually get sent off and remain with a club,different clubs have different policies,under some clubs criteria harper would have walked long ago.
what i was criticising mainly was harper being applauded as he left the field,surely a dignified silence would have been more fitting.
the thing is todays game doesnt really take discipline seriously,bookings and sending offs and bad sportsmanship are an accepted part of the game.

years ago poor discipline was looked down upon,in the amateur and non-league game in particularyou wouldnt generally applaud a sent off player(wiz will confirm this from yesteryear)
I dont know what sloughs policy is but too many more sendings off and i cant see him playing next season great player or not.

Agree the applause was wrong. I bet if we were winning or drawing he would not have been applauded off.

The management need to make him aware of his responsibilities to the team.

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

Originally Posted By: rebel1963

all i was saying was you cant continually get sent off and remain with a club,different clubs have different policies,under some clubs criteria harper would have walked long ago.
what i was criticising mainly was harper being applauded as he left the field,surely a dignified silence would have been more fitting.
the thing is todays game doesnt really take discipline seriously,bookings and sending offs and bad sportsmanship are an accepted part of the game.
years ago poor discipline was looked down upon,in the amateur and non-league game in particularyou wouldnt generally applaud a sent off player(wiz will confirm this from yesteryear)
I dont know what sloughs policy is but too many more sendings off and i cant see him playing next season great player or not.

B*llocks.
I clapped Harper off the pitch AND i chatted to him a couple of times after the game and both times i was saying how i thought he was unlucky. He throws himself in where most dont and we would conceed a lot more if it wasnt for his last ditch tackles. If he gets booked for a late tackle... so be it hes a defender thats what happens! Yes he could do with keeping his gob shut a bit more, but we would be a far weaker team without him.

If we are talking about yesteryear so fondly surely you and Mudge... sorry Wiz...would happily admit that 15-20 years ago Dean Harper would probably have got away with both yellows yesterday and a considerable amount of his previous cards this season... you cant talk so fondly about yesteryear without applying the same argument to modern football!

[rebel1963]

The only time I would clap a player who had been sent off from the field would be if he was sent off by mistake like the a.f.c Hayes game.

Don't get me wrong harper is a good player IMO but with less than half the season gone he has had 6 yellows and 3 reds.

You do make a good point though about tackling in football.Football is fast becoming a non contact sport.Although it's probably more relevant to the professional game. Thinking Norman hunter here.

Interesting the word [****!!****] isn't censored.

 

 

[Windsor_Sec]

A couple of points:

[1] For Don Juan - Wiz isn't Mudge as he [Mudge] was talking to our manager outside the clubhouse yesterday at the time his first post was made!

[2] Obviously I didn't see the two tackles by Harper but I do think it's time the FA had a rethink on this two cards and off business. Defenders by nature will have to make last-ditch tackles and I do honestly believe they get punished more for the same tackles than midfielders or forwards do. For example, yesterday a midfield substitute came on maybe 30 minutes from the end and in the space of 10 minutes committed the three worst fouls seen all afternoon - the result, a severe talking to each time and told it was his last chance! Now would the same decision have been made if it was a defender making those challenges? Do referees feel under pressure more to penalise defenders simply because of the area on the pitch that the challenges are made ie getting near the goal?

 

Your thoughts please.

[Roger Rebel]

I talked to Birds Granddad after the game and he said Mudge was at the Burnham Windsor game, so maybe that why wiz was using our updates.

[charlie]

Windsor Sec:

 

You make an interesting point there - defenders have to make last ditch tackles because they are the last in line before the goal keeper - so I do think refs feel pressurised to overly penalise some strong tackles (particularly when the opposition falls over at the slightest gust of wind - another thing I hate about the modern game)

 

What really gets my goat at the moment is this sodding respect campaign. I'm all for referees not enduring abuse on and off the pitch, but unless the rules are enforced in the Premiership with the over paid prima donnas throwing their toys out of the pram and sensationally diving, there's little point introducing it lower down.

 

All it results in is some (and not all) referees seeing it as a license to get the cards out early and become overly involved in the game - much to the resentment of fans, players and management.

 

Also, on the Harper thing, I too clapped him off yesterday - I wasn't applauding the sending off, I just thought he was unlucky to pick up two (particularly the second booking) for strong challenges. I also thought the way he walked straight off without throwing a barrage of abuse at anyone else was commendable.

[A Rebel and a Saint]

I also clapped Harper off the pitch yesterday, he was unlucky to be sent off, and is a fantastic servant to the club. One of the few players who can head the ball well and not afraid to go in for a tackle. I, like many others, am more forgiving of a player being sent off for 2 yellow cards for strong tackles, it shows passion and commitment that Harper is well known for.

[chris sliski]

Steve ..Your views are spot on , the defenders seam to take the brunt of many of the referees decisions...

 

as marcus said we had a 2 footed tackle on yash here yesterday and the ref hardly did anything about it...

 

chris s

[Guest Anonymous]

Originally Posted By: Windsor_Sec

Wiz isn't Mudge as he [Mudge] was talking to our manager outside the clubhouse yesterday at the time his first post was made!

Did he pay to get in.