Campaign for a YORATH/SOUTHALL ticket

[michael]

When i am merely endorsing the existing structure-why does that make it complicated ?

 

It seems that TY is giving some high profile 'leadership' to the club in all aspects (last seen in the Parmenter days).

 

If he were to become manager full time-that would invariably be diluted.

The shelf life of a manager is usually short,and if it does not work out for TY as a manager-it would be virtually impossible for TY to go back to the previous role as his credibility would have gone;and so he is lost to MFC.

 

I do have serious reservations that once the novelty rubs off- someone in their late fifties has the long term mental and physical capacity to do what it takes to be a manager at this level-and that the obvious skill set that TY has remains better deployed in his current role.

[BlueGate Alan]

I think you are probably in the minority with that view Michael.

[seasidesteve]

I RECON HE WILL BE JUST FINE ,I CANT THINK FOR THE LIFE OF ME WHY HE WASNT GIVEN THE JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN EVERYONE ,INCLUDING THE BOARD, AGREED WE NEEDED SOMEONE EXPERIENCED

[I am Spartacus]

I do have serious reservations that someone in their late fifties has the long term mental and physical capacity to do what it takes to be a manager. /quote]

 

Is this by expierence or by a psychoanalytical study of the over 50's.

 

[I am Spartacus]

Originally Posted By: michaelmichael

The shelf life of a manager is usually short,and if it does not work out for TY as a manager-it would be virtually impossible for TY to go back to the previous role as his credibility would have gone;and so he is lost to MFC.

If I interperet your assumption correctly you obviously think that TY will be a losing manager and therefore have to leave MFC after an unsucessfull tenure in the job.

Well I think that after TY leads us out of the doom and gloom that we are presently expierencing he will retire back to his previous position of Director of Football with the club in (the footballing sense) a much stronger and healthier positon in a couple of years time.

Positivity costs nothing you should try it instead on negativity. It tastes so much better.

[michael]

I go along with the middle paragraph entirely-albeit in a shorter timescale.

 

No-your interpretation is incorrect-but at some stage-a losing streak will occur.Will TY then think-i don't need this -and be lost to the club entirely.

 

Its called thinking through the options as opposed to jumping in with both feet and assuming that someone well respected will automatically be good as a ryman manager.

 

Sometimes the skills you acquire through life are best deployed elsewhere for the long term benefit as opposed to short term salvation

[Cookie]

Its Yorath for me too.

[Drummer]

Age has got nothing to do with it - a person can either do the job or they can't.

 

Wasn't Winston Churchill an OAP when he took office at the start of WWII?

[acdc]

I'll go with Terry and Neville.Most clubs in non league can only dream of having a team with that experience.However if they fail dont get on their backs because they have to have the resources to bring in players of the right quality.

[WelshBob]

Well the club do need some consistency.

And played two lost two is a pretty consistent start.

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[BlueGate Alan]

Yes but you didn't see they way they played Bob, I expect. I don't expect miracles but am sure we will start turning it around soon.

[Drummer]

Must say I agree with BGA.

 

No one likes losing, especially of course the players, and when you see the looks on some of the faces of those youngsters together with the effort they are putting in I for one think they are worth every penny to watch.

[blueblood]

Always rely on "Welsh Bob"

Looking at the ressies last night. You can see the strides in both the standard of foot ball and the attitude that has been made this season. Even Young Paul Axon was tackling with a vengeance, something I've not seen before. All those youngsters playing last night can go on now and have successful careers at Margate, some higher, others in Ryman 1 or Kent league.

[WelshBob]

Yorath/Southall ticket. Played three lost three. Ashby had more ideas and energy in his little finger than these two do. Once again, the decision maker at the club has helped put another nail in it's coffin, because Ashby wasn't a "yes man" and not prepared to do what the control freak wanted. The club is f()cked, and it all starts from the board room.

And before any always rely on WB comments I notice even the die hard rose tinted specs brigade are getting negative on here.

[Dutch_Mike]

I think yourself and I have always had similar views WB - if I recall, we were two of the few who thought Trott should have been sacked after his first full season for our end-of-season capitulation and his non-fulfillment of his three objectives. And I have to say, I think I'm with you on this one too.

 

As I alluded to in my comments about yesterday's match, the idea of Yorath being the 'saviour' is far-fetched to me. I have seen two of his first three games in charge, and we really do seem clueless under him (even those who weren't there yesterday, from the highlights you have to admit that it could have been 6 or 7). On the whole, I thought a number of our defeats under Ashby were unlucky (Tooting and Dover spring to mind), whereas I don't think the same can be said under TY. We were far too hasty in getting rid of BA.

[Boney Crisp]

I completely agree with you both. Terry Yorath doesn't have the best history as manager, so why do people think he is our saviour. I still disagree with the sacking of Barry Ashby

[WelshBob]

Don't forget the Hornchurch game DM. Hatfulls of chances but just didn't score like many other games. Ashby's attitude seemed to work with the youngsters and there were still a lot of positives. He was keen to do well and considering the lack of funds 'cos they were all spent on an extraordinary management set up Ashby done brilliantly imo. Full respect to him for being a man of honour and not bowing and scraping to the boards tune, obviously his own man which makes me wonder if Yorath is just the boards puppet. Whatever way we're going down and the suspicious or paranoid side of me can't help feeling that this is what they really want because nothing is happenening to give us any hope.

[michael]

I believe that my posts earlier in this thread-before a point was lost- expressed similar concerns over Yorath -as a manger-not as director of football.

 

Again-maybe time for all parties to eat a bit of humble pie,and ask Barry Ashby to come back

[the go between]

i have almost no knowledge of TY/NS effect on the first team situation although seems very unfair to me to be on their backs after 3 games , but what i have seen is the effect these 2 guys are having on the youth coming through , the attitude and outlook is refreshing , innovative and very forward looking and if the club survives and i am sure somehow it will , the future of margate football club through their youth policies will be very bright .If the first team results are not currently very uplifting have a dip into the youth section on the web site and see whats going on there !

[Dutch_Mike]

Although I remain very skeptical about the need for (and, more importantly, their wages when our playing budget is so low) Southall and Yorath, I do not know enough about our current youth set-up to make a comment on their contribution to it. However, I think the points being made are that we have seen so few positives from the first team in Yorath's short reign.

 

As WB points out, I think, given the circumstances, Ashby was doing a good job (after all, many of us pre-season said we would settle for safety) and, had he had the rub of a green a few times, we would certainly have accrued a few more points. We saw enough, even in defeats, to suggest that Ashby's effect on the first team was, on the whole, positive and that, at the very least, the team always went down fighting. Personally, I do not think we can say the same applies to yesterday or the Maidstone game at home.