Tokyngton Manor Vs London Colney 7/10/08

[Lato]

very true Spider but I actually think DTB has more sense.

[Stoney Ground]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Originally Posted By: Manorborn100

I think on the balance of play and chances created TMFC deserved the win last night.

Manorborn - Can I assume from your post that you were at the game, I get the impression you don't share the same view as Lato and Spidermanor and have an affinity for Tokyngton Manor despite Ruislip being dropped from the name and the Club being unceremoniously kicked out of Grosvenor Vale by Wealdstone.

Deal with facts Ruislip Manor were not 'unceremoniously kicked out of Grosvenor Vale by Wealdstone.'

They chose to move elsewhere, and in my opinion and I was at 2 meetings he held at RMS&SC,the new chairmans sole intention was to get them nearer to his church base to get the funding he required. Basically this is just as bad a case of francising as the old Wimbledon FC. His dealings with Wealdstone FC were farcical in the extreme and I am amazed that this new club were allowed to take Ruislip Manors status as it bears no resemblence to an historic club.

[Rhodes]

Stoney Ground - I think that's one for 'the Three Musketeers' to reply to, namely Lato, Spidermanor and Manorborn, certainly the loss of the name Ruislip hasn't done the new Club any favours.

[Lato]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Stoney Ground - I think that's one for 'the Three Musketeers' to reply to, namely Lato, Spidermanor and Manorborn, certainly the loss of the name Ruislip hasn't done the new Club any favours.

So once again rhodes you are asking someone else to explain a controversial comment made by you on this forum.

[Stoney Ground]

You made the allegation not anyone else, those guys know what went on and are not going on forums tarnishing the name of my club. You however are, if it is your opinion substantiate it or keep it to yourself.

 

I read on another forum a while ago, that the new owners were claiming Middlesex FA insisted they changed the name as it did not reflect where they were based. I find that strange as Wealdstone have retained their name having been the local nomads for many a while.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Quite a big piece on the Non League Today Website about Tokyington Manor, it's a shame that Lato, Spidermanor and Manorborn flatly refuse to come on to give us their thoughts on the demise of the proud 'Ruislip' name:

http://www.nonleaguedaily.com/news/index.php?&newsmode=FULL&nid=51667

Stoney Ground - The above link from the Non League Today Website clearly states that Ruislip Manor were 'evicted' from Grosvenor Vale, was that not the case then.

[Spidermanor]

Originally Posted By: Stoney Ground

You made the allegation not anyone else, those guys know what went on and are not going on forums tarnishing the name of my club. You however are, if it is your opinion substantiate it or keep it to yourself.

I read on another forum a while ago, that the new owners were claiming Middlesex FA insisted they changed the name as it did not reflect where they were based. I find that strange as Wealdstone have retained their name having been the local nomads for many a while.

Oh look its pompous pete, enjoying your stay at the Vale are you old fruit. I hear your losing money hand over fist, running your own bar isn't exactly the cash cow you hoped for eh, care to comment?

[Stoney Ground]

That is obviously Mr Thomas' view and he is entitled to that, Fact is they were offered a groundshare agreement and their management took an alternative option.

[Stoney Ground]

Oh look its pompous pete, enjoying your stay at the Vale are you old fruit. I hear your losing money hand over fist, running your own bar isn't exactly the cash cow you hoped for eh, care to comment?

 

Wrong person, and a bit rude calling me pompous.I believe I spoke with you and your associates and said then that the chairman Ruislip Manor supporters elected was not in it for Ruislip Manor but was just concerned with the status. I do enjoy football at The Vale, though it may be less so as winter draws in. The social club still loses money but people with an interest in seeing it get turned around are doing their best to achieve that aim. Social clubs are not the income stream they used to be but can be an assett if run prudently, hopefully they will gradually turn things around.

 

So do you still support your club in its new guise?

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Spidermanor

Oh look its pompous pete, enjoying your stay at the Vale are you old fruit. I hear your losing money hand over fist, running your own bar isn't exactly the cash cow you hoped for eh, care to comment?

Stoney Ground - It's unheard of to get such a reaction from Spidermanor so he must feel very strongly about what you did to Ruislip Manor. I initially thought you were with Tokyngton Manor but I assume from his post that you are part of the Wealdstone heirarchy, you should be utterley ashamed of yourself!

[Stoney Ground]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Stoney Ground - It's unheard of to get such a reaction from Spidermanor so he must feel very strongly about what you did to Ruislip Manor. I initially thought you were with Tokyngton Manor but I assume from his post that you are part of the Wealdstone heirarchy, you should be utterley ashamed of yourself!

I would be suprised if he didn't feel strongly, his club has been stolen by someone thought to be a knight in shining armour on a white charger and turned out to be Dick Turpin on Black Bess.

Your initial thoughts are much like all your thoughts, no rationalle and little research.

So to dig deeper you start assuming and still get it wrong, I am not part of the hierarchy at Wealdstone, though I have known all the board and the investors in RMS&SC for at least 10 years and some for 30 years.

Now if you can explain what I should be ashamed of it would be appreciated, as I don't feel that I or Wealdstone FC have anything to be ashamed of.

[Rhodes]

Quote:

For the first time in over sixty years, Ruislip Manor will not take to the football field in August 2008.

The club

[Stoney Ground]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Quote:

For the first time in over sixty years, Ruislip Manor will not take to the football field in August 2008.

Evicted from its Grosvenor Vale headquarters at the end of last season,

Mr.Springer declined the groundshare agreement offered. That is not eviction

Most unsettling for the majority of the club

[Bitch]

Stoney, i gotta say you did a marvelous job of sprucing the old ground up and making the club house nice and welcoming

[Stoney Ground]

Originally Posted By: Bitch

Stoney, i gotta say you did a marvelous job of sprucing the old ground up and making the club house nice and welcoming

Thanks, it was really satisfying working in a true community spirit with all those that mucked in from Directors and manager to kids and OAPs.

The place don't look to shabby now, but we have the good fortune on the number of volunteers available. It must have been difficult for Ruislip Manor to keep the facility as well as it was, with the lack of support and help available to them.

[Manorborn100]

Originally Posted By: Bitch

Stoney, i gotta say you did a marvelous job of sprucing the old ground up and making the club house nice and welcoming

Which is more than they did to us.

Sorry Stoney Ground, but Wealdstone wanted us out from the start, and they were responsible PARTLY for the demise of RMFC with others also at fault.

From what I hear we may have both been somewhat stitched up by the man from Beaconsfield.

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Stoney Ground

'That is obviously Mr Thomas' view and he is entitled to that, Fact is they were offered a groundshare agreement and their management took an alternative option.'

Apologies if I missed your reply however what were the terms of the groundshare 'agreement' if you know, and I'm sure you do, was it something along the lines of playing at Grosvenor Vale every third Saturday of the month and only if the sun was out. The truth is that Wealdstone didn't want anything to do with Ruislip Manor full stop, they were an irritant to them and they wanted rid come hell or high water.

[Manorborn100]

Originally Posted By: Rhodes

Originally Posted By: Stoney Ground

'That is obviously Mr Thomas' view and he is entitled to that, Fact is they were offered a groundshare agreement and their management took an alternative option.'

Apologies if I missed your reply however what were the terms of the groundshare 'agreement' if you know, and I'm sure you do, was it something along the lines of playing at Grosvenor Vale every third Saturday of the month and only if the sun was out. The truth is that Wealdstone didn't want anything to do with Ruislip Manor full stop, they were an irritant to them and they wanted rid come hell or high water.

Rhodes just piss off back to your Ed

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted By: Manorborn100

Wealdstone wanted us out from the start, and they were responsible PARTLY for the demise of RMFC with others also at fault.

Manorborn - Surely we're of the same opinion or am I missing something

[Stoney Ground]

Originally Posted By: Manorborn100

Originally Posted By: Bitch

Stoney, i gotta say you did a marvelous job of sprucing the old ground up and making the club house nice and welcoming

Which is more than they did to us.

Sorry Stoney Ground, but Wealdstone wanted us out from the start, and they were responsible PARTLY for the demise of RMFC with others also at fault.

From what I hear we may have both been somewhat stitched up by the man from Beaconsfield.

I can assure you Wealdstone did not want you out from the start, and many Wealdstone supporters were hopeful an agrrement would be reached. But once your new chairman was put in position it was clear that the only deal he wanted was to play there free of charge. Which you did from January to the end of the season, if the 4 invetors had not stepped in and put their money up RMS&SC would of closed by the end of January therefore RMFC would have died then or was their already a contingency plan.

The reason RMFC folded was down to many factors but I get a bit frustrated when, people like Mr Rhodes who know none of the facts post inacurate items on forums just to cause ill feeling in the football community.

Well I am not sure whether stitched up is right but lets say we live and learn.

And needless to say you and any real Ruislip Manor people are more than welcome, as is anybody.