Supporters Club Unrest - 35 years ago - why ?,

[stupalace]

Been reading through some old copies of the slough observer , in 1973 the club and its supporters club was involved in a lot of unrest over various things such as ticket sales for wembley and collection of monies . A certain Alan Davies was even arrested over this . Anyone remember what the story was behind the club falling out so badly with its supporters club

[Guest Anonymous]

I think there was a row about whether Steve Daley was past it!

[Guest Anonymous]

It was a long time ago but IIRC relations between the two bodies deteriorated considerably once the football club decided that the supporters club could not have a separate clubhouse/revenue raising facility on the new Wexham Park ground.

[Guest RWG]

My understanding of the situation at the time was that the football club wanted the supporters club to come under their umbrella at the new ground-the main reason for this was I believe to take control of the Supporters club's lottery tickets, which at the time was a hugh success and generated a great deal of wealth( how do you think we could afford top managers and players)the tickets were so successful that they were sold in virtually every firm on the trading estate and pubs and clubs every where, why even the daily draw results were printed on the back page of the evening standard and evening news papers.

[Bernie Gogan]

In fact the "Supporters Club" ran as an independent (of STFC) club until it was eventually wound up and the building demolished along with the Greyhound Stadium.

 

We used to go there for drinks after playing football on Sundays for a bit. I think it was renamed Slough Football Supporters Club

or something to that effect.

[Roger Rebel]

R W G I thought these Players were Amateurs are you now telling us they got paid?

[Guest RWG]

Originally Posted By: Roger Rebel

R W G I thought these Players were Amateurs are you now telling us they got paid?

How naive you must be-a proper silly billy.If you are so young that you have no idea what amateur football was all about at the very highest level-then why come on here and make stupid comments-if you are pre 1973 and watched amateur footie and didn't realise they got paid one way or another-then sadly there is no hope for you-long term.

[Roger Rebel]

Of course I knew that's why the likes of Readon never turned pro, I bet the tax man never knew though.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

So Reardon was a tax dodger - now to say Reardon Was Good must be a bit of poor judgement - good player but dont ask too many questions about money!

 

RWG you lead me to belive that things were all sweetness and light back in the 70's when football was great - but now you are saying players were taking back handers, there was friction between the club and supporters association, and others such as Bobbys Hatt have proved that the team you put up as being the greatest was missing a large number of true greats.

 

You have me confussed - you told me you knew more about great footballers than I ever would - you failed to tell me that you would have a selective memory when it comes to the seedy side of what went on back in the good old days.

 

It must be those rose tinted glasses are stronger than I though - I will stick to my clear glasses as I will be able to see things as they truly are.

 

Have you thought of going into politics - you can put a good spin on a poor situation and you could be like Winston with that cigar!

[Guest Anonymous]

The FA was slowly moving towards eliminating the distinction between Amateur and Professional players, in anticipation of this and the wish to create one organisation to help finance and run a new facility at Wexham Park, the Football Club proposed an amalgamation of the two organisations. This was unacceptable to the Supporters Club. The football Club went from strength to strength and after a number of years the old Supporters Club disappeared. The rest is history.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Staines Rebel

So Reardon was a tax dodger - now to say Reardon Was Good must be a bit of poor judgement - good player but dont ask too many questions about money!

RWG you lead me to belive that things were all sweetness and light back in the 70's when football was great - but now you are saying players were taking back handers, there was friction between the club and supporters association, and others such as Bobbys Hatt have proved that the team you put up as being the greatest was missing a large number of true greats.

You have me confussed - you told me you knew more about great footballers than I ever would - you failed to tell me that you would have a selective memory when it comes to the seedy side of what went on back in the good old days.

It must be those rose tinted glasses are stronger than I though - I will stick to my clear glasses as I will be able to see things as they truly are.

Have you thought of going into politics - you can put a good spin on a poor situation and you could be like Winston with that cigar!

You have surpassed yourself this time stains ! firstly lets clear up the issue of tax , i am pretty sure all of those guys had jobs on which they paid tax , after that the way i look at it is they provided entertainment for the community so a bit of " beer money " in a little brown envelope somehow finding its way into one of your boots was fair do's ! everybody did it , Tommy Lawrence didnt bring half the Enfield team to Slough for a packet of crisps after the game ! :-) As somebody said it was probably a big reason why a good few didnt turn pro , Liverpool had to work on Steve Heighway to get him from Skelmersdale , thats just one example of the standard of player around at our level in those days . To talk of back handers is nonsense everybody that can makes a bit on the side do you seriously believe Plumbers , leccies, builders etc. dont do cash in hand jobs ?
Now about the friction between club & supporters club the best bloke to ask would be dear old Cyril but good luck with that ! I was a member of the club until it closed and we all got a nice little pay out each ! yes i paid tax on it before you ask ! :-)
The politics of what went on is now irelevant really and as always there are always two sides to a story , so to me its dead news . As far as proving anybody wrong goes i did no such thing ,RWG knows his stuff and goes back further than i do , thats obvious , i just asked his opinion of Alf D'arcy thats all and he gave a very valid reply , apart from mixing up Alan Gane with Kenny Gaine i dont see anything missing ! he named the whole 67 Skelmersdale game team i got six but it was a long time ago and i was only 10 . Wether you want to accept it or not he knows his stuff and frankly i think your on a definite loser trying to rubbish him but go ahead if you want to make yourself look foolish .

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Bobby - so you support tax dodging? You really are showing your true colours tonight.

[Guest Anonymous]

God, without or without Reardon, help you all. As if the money side of things hasn't been a problem in the past 5 years, as if there has been nothing murky, as if the 2000 onwards supporters haven't been in a squabble with the various bits of management, you are now arguing the toss over what dodgy stuff might have been going on in the Seventies. At least it was a team worth watching that could pull in a crowd.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Staines Rebel

Bobby - so you support tax dodging? You really are showing your true colours tonight.

Do you really suppose for instance that non - league teams actually give the exact gate figure in ? how many times have you heard a crowd figure given out and then thought thats bull ? oh no silly me 'cos its not hard to count the crowd these days so you may not know what i mean ? but that might be tax dodging as well ? do you support that ? the taxman never gets it all he knows that , do you think Lester Piggott paid it all back or Ken Dodd or countless other off-shore merchants its the way of the world , we only pay tax because a government says we have to , some countries dont pay tax and they run better than this bunch of shysters & twicers run this one !

[Guest RWG]

BObby Hats,

I did warn you about talking to morons like stainsy,he is so lacking in football knowledge that he is trying to belittle ex players now for playing FOR EXPENSES !! he doesn't realise that every team below the football league, that were of a high standard were on EXPENSES-Does he not realise before tennis went open in 1968 they were on EXPENSES, does he think Laver, Newcombe, Emerson and Roach came all the way from Australia for peanuts!!

No Bobby you have to realise that people of poor learning like stainsy you have to pity them-but most of all IGNORE them.

[Roger Rebel]

What would you call EXPENSES, are you trying to make out that these tax dodgers were playing for a few quid b******. On your other point Mr Hatt can you name the Countries that don't pay tax, and personally I think tax dodgers are worse than benefit fraudsters.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Roger Rebel

What would you call EXPENSES, are you trying to make out that these tax dodgers were playing for a few quid b******. On your other point Mr Hatt can you name the Countries that don't pay tax, and personally I think tax dodgers are worse than benefit fraudsters.

Firstly may i just point out that you are referring to RWGs post when you talk about expenses , i dont believe i referred to it that way ? I think i mentioned " boot money " perhaps ? anyhow i think you might just want to ease up on your tax dodger comments before Terry gets to hear about it , i cant quite remember which one it would be but either slander or libel ? You have absolutely NO proof that any of these guys played for anything more than what we called boot money , if you think you have come forward with it ! its how i always call it PUT UP or SHUT UP ! and then have the good sense to never call real legends of the club by that term again ! Let me tell you that even the top local companies with footy teams competed with each other for good local players , i know from personal experience that FHD offered guys better paid jobs etc. to get them into the team in order to be amongst the best in the area ! these days locals of that standard are few and far between and standards have dropped alarmingly , take a look at Eton Wicks situation now , the reserves even folding this year ! So where do you think future players will come from that would wear the shirt with pride ? especially when they hear of people like you calling the likes of John Delaney a tax dodger , good job your saying it know matey 'cos if big John had seen that in his prime he would snap you in half !

Ok now lets just say that RWG is right you & your pal stains are hardly worth bothering with and i shall be taking his advice in future and ignoring your drivel , you are way off the mark pal if you think unpaid tax outweighs that which benefit fraudsters rip off the government , especially the newly arrived ones claiming for wives & kids not even in this country ! but hey ho you delude yourself !

Andorra for one ! and thats the last i can be bothered to say to a complete nob like you !

[Guest Anonymous]

Yawn. Anyone watch the cricket?

[Bobbys Hatt]

Your on the wrong thread Anonymouth !

[Ted]

Originally Posted By: Bobbys Hatt

Originally Posted By: Roger Rebel

What would you call EXPENSES, are you trying to make out that these tax dodgers were playing for a few quid b******. On your other point Mr Hatt can you name the Countries that don't pay tax, and personally I think tax dodgers are worse than benefit fraudsters.

Firstly may i just point out that you are referring to RWGs post when you talk about expenses , i dont believe i referred to it that way ? I think i mentioned " boot money " perhaps ? anyhow i think you might just want to ease up on your tax dodger comments before Terry gets to hear about it , i cant quite remember which one it would be but either slander or libel ? You have absolutely NO proof that any of these guys played for anything more than what we called boot money , if you think you have come forward with it ! its how i always call it PUT UP or SHUT UP ! and then have the good sense to never call real legends of the club by that term again ! Let me tell you that even the top local companies with footy teams competed with each other for good local players , i know from personal experience that FHD offered guys better paid jobs etc. to get them into the team in order to be amongst the best in the area ! these days locals of that standard are few and far between and standards have dropped alarmingly , take a look at Eton Wicks situation now , the reserves even folding this year ! So where do you think future players will come from that would wear the shirt with pride ? especially when they hear of people like you calling the likes of John Delaney a tax dodger , good job your saying it know matey 'cos if big John had seen that in his prime he would snap you in half !

Ok now lets just say that RWG is right you & your pal stains are hardly worth bothering with and i shall be taking his advice in future and ignoring your drivel , you are way off the mark pal if you think unpaid tax outweighs that which benefit fraudsters rip off the government , especially the newly arrived ones claiming for wives & kids not even in this country ! but hey ho you delude yourself !

Andorra for one ! and thats the last i can be bothered to say to a complete nob like you !

Your post makes little sense. You talk about players getting boot money, yet when someone points out that that is tax evasion, you ramble on about slander and libel.

For it to be slander or libel, it has to be untrue, which you say it isn't.

Lighten up a bit or else you might just come across as an ill mannered, miserable old git.