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Hola!!

 

How many of you guys are coming to Wrexham?

 

# On the plus side its an easy 4 and a half hour trip on crowded motorways.

 

# Oldest international ground in the world.

 

# A chance to explore a european culture not too disimlar to your own.

 

There are no minuses to this trip.

 

First ever meeting i believe ,so you really need to be there.

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So it's not in Wales then?

 

THE HOLDEN NAME: Taken from the book by Edward Mac Lysaght

Following the Anglo-Norman invasion at the end of the 12th century, a Welsh family by the name of HOULYN established themselves in an area in the southern part of what is now County Kilkenny. In time they became Lords of Kilree and elsewhere in the Barony of Kells (County Kilkenny). There were many early variants of the name: HOLYING, HOULYN, AND HOWLING. These became standardized as HOWLIN. The name appeared in such records as "Ormond Deeds" and "Judiciary Rolls From 1306", when Richard and John Houlin were tenants of the manor of Gowran, and "Chaucery Rolls of 1536" In which one Edmund Hoyling, yeoman of Wexford County, was pardoned for murder. When the census of 1659 was compiled, Houling was recorded as a principal Irish name both in the Barony of Kells and in that of Knocktopher, a place often mentioned in reference to the family. By 1659 the family had spread into County Wexford where the name was entered as Howlin. They located around Knockhowlin. Later, some branches of the family became known as Holden. They lived near the Walsh Mountains along the border between Wexford and Wicklow.

 

Welsh and Irish ancestry Mr H (possibly)

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Originally Posted By: JFW



So it's not in Wales then?


THE HOLDEN NAME: Taken from the book by Edward Mac Lysaght
Following the Anglo-Norman invasion at the end of the 12th century, a Welsh family by the name of HOULYN established themselves in an area in the southern part of what is now County Kilkenny. In time they became Lords of Kilree and elsewhere in the Barony of Kells (County Kilkenny). There were many early variants of the name: HOLYING, HOULYN, AND HOWLING. These became standardized as HOWLIN. The name appeared in such records as "Ormond Deeds" and "Judiciary Rolls From 1306", when Richard and John Houlin were tenants of the manor of Gowran, and "Chaucery Rolls of 1536" In which one Edmund Hoyling, yeoman of Wexford County, was pardoned for murder. When the census of 1659 was compiled, Houling was recorded as a principal Irish name both in the Barony of Kells and in that of Knocktopher, a place often mentioned in reference to the family. By 1659 the family had spread into County Wexford where the name was entered as Howlin. They located around Knockhowlin. Later, some branches of the family became known as Holden. They lived near the Walsh Mountains along the border between Wexford and Wicklow.

Welsh and Irish ancestry Mr H (possibly)

Have to say top notch research which would not look out of place on the Gradley thread..
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Strongly reccomend an overnighter.Wrexham is the clubbing capital of North East Wales.Its got the lot.

 

Re Trains,yes you can just see the trains from your part of the ground.Follow these instructions......get a seat in the front row.Turn your head in a leftwards motionwn and look directly down to the gap between the stand you are in and the home end.The station is directly behind it.An added inducement is the fact that we only have steam trains in Wales.I guarantee it.

 

Of course if you look straight ahead you will be gazing on the primeval splendour of the Minera mountains,that is if the mist isnt covering them.A place of great natural beauty and hugely significant in our local rituals and culture.

 

Bring a camera.

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The thing is that when the game is crap (always)you have something to look at to take your mind off the misery that is watching Wrexham.

 

Beyond the Minera mountains is Rhos mountain, the home of Tommy Tainant,the greatest living Welshman.

 

Then you are into Llangollen and the Horseshoe Pass.You may not be aware that Oscar winning British comedy Carry on up the Khyber was filmed there.Remember the Khazi and the Burpas?

 

Or you could watch the game.

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Originally Posted By: keb mo
Cheaper to take her to the match Mr Gut.

Fetch her up to Wrexham we only have pound shops up here.

She can go bargain hunting while you muse on the beauty of the mist capped hills of Minera.


Pounds shops hey, Cor new players for us then drinkies You missed out all those chip shops you also have.

I lived in Wales so your ok ty,& in real Life my womens a season ticket holder smile
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