A question for RWG

[Ian]

SR is right, you can only take examples from when a team actually player together. Therefore my best Slough team of all time.....

 

Allaway, Carbon, Haddow, Daly, Murphy, Salisbury, Wilko, Harris, Metcalfe, Spencer, Hodges

 

No Rebels team ever defeated league opposition as many league places above as the team that beat Walsall, not even the conference teams who probably had far greater opportunities to do so.

 

It has little bearing on today however. All this is just living in the past.

[A Rebel and a Saint]

Aha, now theres a team I can relate to, a very successful team in terms of cup success during the 04/5 season.

I have only been a STFC regular since that Walsall match, but I have stuck with the club through the worst times as well as the good ones and I'm now a matchday and stall volunteer. I may not know anything of the Slough greats from back in the day but thats not important, the important thing is supporting the club and getting behind the team NOW!!!!

Can we please look forward to games instead of living in the past? Yes opinions on the team are valid after matches but this stupid bickering has gone on too long!

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Now heres a twist to it all -

 

Whos the greatest - Terry Reardon or Andy Deaner

 

Well if you enter the above names into google.co.uk and search uk only in the first ten pages of the search the names come up with the following number of correct hits:

 

Terry Reardon 1 correct match

 

Andy Deaner 14 correct matches

 

Therefore Andy Deaner is a far more recognised player then Terry Reardon.

 

This all goes to show that there is no absolute measure to who is best, it just shows that it is down to opinion.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Rebel you wrote " Out of curiosity, what is your best 11 of all time?"- yet you did not give us the benifit of yours.All choices of peoples best players is subjective of course. But I will give you mine, bearing in mind that most of you won't know who they are

Richard Teale. ( Q.P.R. England Non league )
Ian Reid ( England Non League )
John Delaney ( Bournmouth England Non League )
Phil Beal ( Spurs Full England )
Ray Eaton ( England Non League )
Steve Thompson ( Wycombe-Yeovil as a professional )
Terry Reardon ( England Non League )
Roger Day ( England Non League )
David Kemp ( Brentford-Wimbledon )
John Richardson ( Arsenal )
Rowan Dodds

I'd play them as 4 3 3 we only had the incomparable John Richardson for one season, he hit 40+ goals then Arsenal came knocking.
As centre backs Delaney- Beal- Keith Mead- Young( Brighton-Wimbledon-Wolves-Wales )Bobby Hatt- Mickey Droy ( Chelsea ) were all far far better than Daly.

I have got to say i am a little surprised you dont mention Alf D'arcy in that list of centre backs above RWG ? and also that you include Phil Beal who i thought was pretty average for the Rebels given his illustrious past and also are you sure Bobby Hatt was best known as a centre back ? possibly more of a half back to use the term of the day ? that said your team is pretty good ! Ian Wolstenholme would surely push Teale for the keepers spot , Alf D was pretty handy too , as you would expect from an England captain ? Joey Adams was a classy little player and Chalkie was similar later on ......... oh for some players with that kind of flair these days ! it used to be really exciting looking forward to Slough games , these days its hard to get motivated to make the effort ! once the best team in the area and capable of giving Wycombe a real game we are now sadly light years behind them , something i find hard to stomach ! Really surprised when i was told by another old pal that Steve E was the new chairman ! he is a really nice guy whose heart is in it and seems to be making a difference already ! I will be trying to get along to a game soon and bring along a few other "lapsed" Rebels with me ! Do we still sing " His name is John Delaney ,hes the leader of our team " ? :-)

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Staines Rebel

Now heres a twist to it all -

Whos the greatest - Terry Reardon or Andy Deaner

Well if you enter the above names into google.co.uk and search uk only in the first ten pages of the search the names come up with the following number of correct hits:

Terry Reardon 1 correct match

Andy Deaner 14 correct matches

Therefore Andy Deaner is a far more recognised player then Terry Reardon.

This all goes to show that there is no absolute measure to who is best, it just shows that it is down to opinion.

Laughable really ! you mention Andy Deaner in the same breath as Terry Reardon ! Terry got picked in some very good Slough teams because he was that good , not because his Dad picked him ! Well you said it was about opinions and thats mine .

[grandad]

Surely Staines was using a combination of sarcasm and the fact that you can use statistics to prove what ever you want to prove! Nobody really thinks Deaner was better than Reardon! To be fair to Andy, at least he tried despite his limitations, unlike some other "better" players we have had over the years.

[Guest RWG]

Originally Posted By: Bobbys Hatt

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Rebel you wrote " Out of curiosity, what is your best 11 of all time?"- yet you did not give us the benifit of yours.All choices of peoples best players is subjective of course. But I will give you mine, bearing in mind that most of you won't know who they are

Richard Teale. ( Q.P.R. England Non league )
Ian Reid ( England Non League )
John Delaney ( Bournmouth England Non League )
Phil Beal ( Spurs Full England )
Ray Eaton ( England Non League )
Steve Thompson ( Wycombe-Yeovil as a professional )
Terry Reardon ( England Non League )
Roger Day ( England Non League )
David Kemp ( Brentford-Wimbledon )
John Richardson ( Arsenal )
Rowan Dodds

I'd play them as 4 3 3 we only had the incomparable John Richardson for one season, he hit 40+ goals then Arsenal came knocking.
As centre backs Delaney- Beal- Keith Mead- Young( Brighton-Wimbledon-Wolves-Wales )Bobby Hatt- Mickey Droy ( Chelsea ) were all far far better than Daly.

I have got to say i am a little surprised you dont mention Alf D'arcy in that list of centre backs above RWG ? and also that you include Phil Beal who i thought was pretty average for the Rebels given his illustrious past and also are you sure Bobby Hatt was best known as a centre back ? possibly more of a half back to use the term of the day ? that said your team is pretty good ! Ian Wolstenholme would surely push Teale for the keepers spot , Alf D was pretty handy too , as you would expect from an England captain ? Joey Adams was a classy little player and Chalkie was similar later on ......... oh for some players with that kind of flair these days ! it used to be really exciting looking forward to Slough games , these days its hard to get motivated to make the effort ! once the best team in the area and capable of giving Wycombe a real game we are now sadly light years behind them , something i find hard to stomach ! Really surprised when i was told by another old pal that Steve E was the new chairman ! he is a really nice guy whose heart is in it and seems to be making a difference already ! I will be trying to get along to a game soon and bring along a few other "lapsed" Rebels with me ! Do we still sing " His name is John Delaney ,hes the leader of our team " ? :-)

Hi Bobby Hatt-at last some one who knows what a footballer looks like.Just to answer your points ( im my humble opinion)yes Alf Darcy was another great non league player, especially at Barnet and Enfield, I thought he came to Slough in the very twilight of his career but still performed well,and Bobby Hatt yes he was originally a defender but as you say played more in midfield,but they were both far better than Mr Daly.
Ian Wolstenholme was another gem of a keeper, down the years we have had some great keepers.One player I had to leave out and he was almost Reardon's equal-was Les Hartridge !
My dad and uncle who both played for Slough thought both of them could have made it to the very top.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Fair point Andy did try harder than a good few who have done their best to disgrace the shirt ! but do you really think he would have been at Slough if his Dad wasnt the chairman ? Staines Rebel said in a certain context it was a matter of opinion who was best . Well lets put it this way , if they were leagues Terry would be where we used to be ( Conference )

and Andy would be where we are going ( Combined Counties or worse !) Unless we get some defenders that are up to the job ! I went to one pre - season game Henley Town , with a mate from Henley whose brother plays for them , having a beer afterwards it came out in conversation that they had just previously been done 7-1 by Bracknells Ressies boy did that set the old alarm bells ringing ! I have to agree with RWG on the pitch we are a shambles ! I am sorry but i can not have any faith in a manager who prattles on about the strikers whilst the defence resembles an average pub side and the midfield provides poor service , one of the best in the league Danny Jordan may well be but without any chances he may as well sit in the stands !

[Bobbys Hatt]

Ah now you are talking ! Les Hartridge ! with Terry and the rest what a quality midfield we had ! as a youngster i was all of those guys in the school playground , when i had to go in goal i was Chris Reynolds then later Wolsty ! Skelmersdale at the Dolphin sat on straw bales right near the touch line you couldnt have got any closer without playing ! if only Chris Mullens penalty went in ! the big cup games with Wycombe , Barnet etc. then the " Lawrence era " Dagenham at Charlton , how much time did that ref want to add on until they equalised ? then getting pipped at Fulham , that hurt ! playing so well at Watford to beat a fine Stortford side only to go down to those cloggers at Wembley and Roger Connell to get the goal it still rankles ! Yeah i guess you could say we saw the golden times , of course we have had our moments since, the win over Millwall , the superb performance at Brisbane Road , Rowans finest ! if only he had managed to slot the third !? holding other league sides to draws and then the excellent season that saw us unlucky not to get past Southport and to Wembley again , the win over Walsall .......... so how the hell did we end up where we are now RWG ? and more importantly can/will the good times ever return ? I havent figured out who you are just yet but i will if you keep on giving out big clues ! what era / team did your Dad and Uncle play in ? oh forgot to say yes dear old Alf was in the twilight but he still strolled and made it look easy , but i know what you mean my Dad took me to England amateur internationals so i did see him at his best , i remember massive crowds at Dulwich , Tooting & yes Southall ! :-)

[Guest RWG]

Ah! such memories Bobby Hatt,saw all those games you mentioned,went to both Skem games 67 & 69, I remember going to West Auckland in amateur cup, we won 3-1 and it was so so cold,Peter Wright on the left wing took em to the cleaners that day.Remember cup replay at Leytonstone 17 coaches went, and Sutton another cup replay 21 coaches.Hillingdon Borough ( who had the finest playing surface in non league)versus Slough was 2 games of 8000 fans,Slough v Wycombe at the old Loakes Park ground another 9000 and 8000 in replay.We let Chelsea have Mickey Droy and they came and played us with there full European Cup Winners side as a thank you-thousands turn up and they were lucky to win the game.

I use to go on the first team coach as a kid and they always gave me the same meal the players had after the game.Times we will never see again sadly, especially as some of the fans on here seem content with mediocre players and management.

Ok give you another clue Bobby my Uncle also played for Wycombe.

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

"especially as some of the fans on here seem content with mediocre players and management." - have you scouted, signed up and paid the three new players yet? - oh I forgot you had those rose tinted glasses on again - living in the past and not in touch with the financial realities of today!

 

[Martin]

RWG nobody is "content" with mediocrity and nobody wants to see Slough in this division but those that you choose to slate are the people that are aware of the reality of our situation and think that you need to allow Sweets a bit more than 15 games before condemning him and his signings. They are also the people who go week in and week out and actually try to support the team.

 

I actually think we will come good this season and achieve our aims which at best must be a flirtation with the play-offs this season ready for a promotion push hopefully next season.

 

Part of what it is to be a football supporter is to take the rough with the smooth, to stick with it through the tough times so that you appreciate the highs. Otherwise we would all supporter Man United/Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea and watch the trophies roll in.

[Ian]

Terry Reardon may well have been been the best thing since sliced bread to play for Slough but the clue is in the name...Reardon "WAS" God. "Was" will not get anybody anywhere so people would do well to stop dreaming about the good old days and focus their energies into now.

 

By the looks of it the management have secured a couple of very good signings.

[Bobbys Hatt]

And by the looks of it North Leigh & Cinderford must have secured a full team of very good signings ! :-) , hopefully we will get a few more soon ? hopefully before we have to play Truro !

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

Well if you read other peoples post Bobble Hat you will see that new players are on there way - even the Farnborough fan rates the player they are losing to us, and that player helped win the league for them last year.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Staines Rebel

"especially as some of the fans on here seem content with mediocre players and management." - have you scouted, signed up and paid the three new players yet? - oh I forgot you had those rose tinted glasses on again - living in the past and not in touch with the financial realities of today!

Well know thats fair comment about the financial side , except what kind of a budget do a village team like North Leigh operate on ? do they have a wealthy benefactor ? maybe we just had another of those bad days at the office and they are not really that good ? and Cinderford ?? so what happens if there arent any good days at the office ? tell the manager about 10 games from the end of the season " win on saturday or your out , but if you like you can stay as assistant " Jeez i know its all gone downhill but i never , ever thought i would see the day when we brought in an assistant manager from Burnham ! and the only local sides we can beat would be Eton Wick and Holyport ! Holy who ?? and you wonder why the likes of RWG and i prefer to remember the past ? Its because i dream of seeing a Slough team playing in Amber & Royal blue and looking like they care about the shirt ! I can watch sunday morning players biding their time till the pub opens down at Upton Park !

[Ian]

So go and watch Maidenhead. You're old enough to remember Man United getting relegated in the mid 70's and Tottenham a couple of years later. I remember Chelsea being an absolute laughing stock for years. Kids today wouldn't believe that was possible. It happens.

 

Slough ARE in the division they are in. Get used to it.

[Bobbys Hatt]

Originally Posted By: Staines Rebel

Well if you read other peoples post Bobble Hat you will see that new players are on there way - even the Farnborough fan rates the player they are losing to us, and that player helped win the league for them last year.

Its Bobbys Hatt matey ! please dont tempt me to come up with funny names for you , given that you have Staines in your monicker ! ever see Captain Pugwash ?
fair dos you say that Farnborough are " losing " this player to us , why ? are we paying more ? or is it he cant get in their team ? Is it only one fan that rates him ? Dont get me wrong i hope he is the Mutts Nuts and not just another guy looking for a pay cheque in an easier league ! we have had way too many of them in latter years ! :-(

[Bernie Gogan]

Bobby Hatt, great player...........in 1968-71 ish. Football's moved on, they were still "amateur" then for a start.

 

We're desperate to bring back the good times, when of course you personally can return to watching the Rebels. Give those of us a break who still support the club by going to games. I've had my moments over the past 2-3 years but I still come back to the Amber & NAVY shirts(yes we've done Royal Blue when you were a supporter, but traditionally it's Navy Blue).

 

Enough of all this - come on you Rebels, onward and upward.

 

SUPPORT THE CLUB!

[Staines-upon-Thames Rebel]

You are touchy Bobby Ball - yes i did see Pugwash as a kid and am well aware of the "names" given to the crew!

 

Its good to see you are putting the new players down before you have even seen them - If Steven Gerrard was bought in would you still moan about him - dont answer that as we already know the answer - you and RWG have a stuck needle - you know all about 78's.