Fleet to be run by the supporters trust????

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Jeff

I'm not sure I want to be part of it. You wouldn't think that we are in a cup final today from reading the forum at the moment.

Jeff - remember the purpose of the website, including the forums, is to facilitate members in running the club - not to have discussions about how great it is to be in a final. This is not to say that talking about today's game is not part of it - but it is definitely not the sole purpose.

MyFC has a long, long way to go in the process of it's evolution. Many mistakes have been made over the past 10 months and a lot of work is going to have to go into redressing them. The main push by those who are active on the forums at the moment is to construct the (virtual) infrastructure to facilitate the development of MyFC and it's role as owner of the club.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Darter

I know all about the other potential deals.

Having been a member of the FT you should - and you should also acknowledge how close the deal with Leigh RMI was to be concluded.

[Jeff]

Dom. I fully understand that.

 

It is full of complete egotistical morons who have absolutely no idea what the whole venture is or what it is all about.

 

It fecking pi$$e$ me off sometimes.

 

A lot of it seems not to be about the Fleet but more about personal point scoring, ego massaging and political gain.

 

The best decision made by MyFC is the appointment of a CEO to drag us into the modern age of business and football. The rest of it is hollow and vacous.

[Darter]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Darter

I know all about the other potential deals.

Having been a member of the FT you should - and you should also acknowledge how close the deal with Leigh RMI was to be concluded.

I didn't join the FT until several months after the deal was done, Dom. I wasn't party to the information - I had another source, though. That's the great thing about MyFC, information-wise - it leaks like a rusty bucket

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Darter

Uncs is right about location.

Actually Sal - he's talking bullshit.

MyFC came close to concluding a deal to buy Halifax when Ralph was threatening to put the club into administration. Looking at how things have panned out we were very fortunate it ddin't happen.

A deal with Leigh RMI was even closer (details were outlined on the RMI messageboard and there were signifiant recriminations within the club that it didn't happen). The only thing that appears to have prevented the deal at that time was a desire by EUFC owners to move on a deal and the fact that Wigan council wouldn't give guarantees about RMI playing at the new stadium. There were also concerns about RMI getting rooted to the bottom of the CN table and likely impact on sign-ups if the club got relegated.

So there was no laid-out plan to purchase a club around London. It happened because it was the best available deal at the time.

sorry dom but I am not talking bullshit at all...and I didn't say there was a laid out plan I said it was preconceived to be a london club driven by self interest...big difference so pay attention please...

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club) and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club)

Well the only thing I can say Unc is that your relative is not as much in the know as he/she is making out. The deal with Leigh RMI was done and dusted until the local council backed out of giving guarantees that RMI would play at the new stadium (the council we trying to entice FCUM to play there at the time - bigger crowds). There was no way we could conclude a deal if the club was going to be left without a ground. The deal began to unravel at that point. RMI only got the go ahead to play at the new ground when FCUM rejected the approach and by that stage the agreement with EUFC was almost concluded.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

Your opinion - but I suggest that you read the report from Shaymandownsouth in the Halifax fanzine about how close a deal with Halifax was - he was closely involved in the negotiations.

MyFC had negotiations in one form or another with about a dozen clubs between League 2 and the Conferecne divisions. Some progressed more than others. Excluding Halifax (who were out of the picture very early) negotiations progressed very significantly with three clubs, EUFC, RMI and a league 2 club - to the point of acutally agreeing final figures. Two of the deals collapsed for different reasons - the deal with EUFC was completed.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Jeff

It is full of complete egotistical morons who have absolutely no idea what the whole venture is or what it is all about.

It fecking pi$$e$ me off sometimes.

A lot of it seems not to be about the Fleet but more about personal point scoring, ego massaging and political gain.

The best decision made by MyFC is the appointment of a CEO to drag us into the modern age of business and football. The rest of it is hollow and vacous.

obviously a little frustrated this morning jeff which is apparent from several of your posts and all of what you have posted may have some substance but the fact remains that these members are the reason that the fleet still exists at its current level and are frankly.. at this moment in time.. the most important people in the whole farrago in the short to medium term...

I have had a little update read on there this morning and it is alarming to see how many of them are actually rebelling against the initial marketing spin..

own the club pick the team....

its gonna be a close one in february in my opinion and much smoke up morons ar5es seems about the order of the day from where I am sitting..

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club)

Well the only thing I can say Unc is that your relative is not as much in the know as he/she is making out. The deal with Leigh RMI was done and dusted until the local council backed out of giving guarantees that RMI would play at the new stadium (the council we trying to entice FCUM to play there at the time - bigger crowds). There was no way we could conclude a deal if the club was going to be left without a ground. The deal began to unravel at that point. RMI only got the go ahead to play at the new ground when FCUM rejected the approach and by that stage the agreement with EUFC was almost concluded.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

Your opinion - but I suggest that you read the report from Shaymandownsouth in the Halifax fanzine about how close a deal with Halifax was - he was closely involved in the negotiations.

MyFC had negotiations in one form or another with about a dozen clubs between League 2 and the Conferecne divisions. Some progressed more than others. Excluding Halifax (who were out of the picture very early) negotiations progressed very significantly with three clubs, EUFC, RMI and a league 2 club - to the point of acutally agreeing final figures. Two of the deals collapsed for different reasons - the deal with EUFC was completed.

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

[Darter]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club)

Well the only thing I can say Unc is that your relative is not as much in the know as he/she is making out. The deal with Leigh RMI was done and dusted until the local council backed out of giving guarantees that RMI would play at the new stadium (the council we trying to entice FCUM to play there at the time - bigger crowds). There was no way we could conclude a deal if the club was going to be left without a ground. The deal began to unravel at that point. RMI only got the go ahead to play at the new ground when FCUM rejected the approach and by that stage the agreement with EUFC was almost concluded.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

Your opinion - but I suggest that you read the report from Shaymandownsouth in the Halifax fanzine about how close a deal with Halifax was - he was closely involved in the negotiations.

MyFC had negotiations in one form or another with about a dozen clubs between League 2 and the Conferecne divisions. Some progressed more than others. Excluding Halifax (who were out of the picture very early) negotiations progressed very significantly with three clubs, EUFC, RMI and a league 2 club - to the point of acutally agreeing final figures. Two of the deals collapsed for different reasons - the deal with EUFC was completed.

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

Classic ... and you are absolutely right about the politics of NW Lancashire, Uncs

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

the initial marketing spin..

own the club pick the team....

None of the above statement is true though is it?

MyFC members don't own the club, and they don't pick the team. The sooner they realise it was, as Unc puts it, just 'spin', the faster this whole idea will move onto the next stage.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

Interesting given that I had a long conversation with the lawyer involved in the negotiations - the same lawyer that was involved in the negotiations with EUFC. Unc - please don't try and give the impression that you have the remotest idea about everything that MyFC (or other clubs for that matter) has been involved in over the past 10 months.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

Do you actually know Simon? I doubt it. And I suggest that you read the article before passing comment - I do believe it is online.

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: PatMan

the faster this whole idea will move onto the next stage.

And what would you consider to be 'the next stage' Pat?

[Darter]

I was going to ask that question ... might get away with jettisoning PTT, as will no doubt happen, but without "Own the Club" what is there left for MyFC members? Granted, many now follow the Fleet, but they could have done that anyway ... and it isn't exactly a local club for most people.

[chris blanc]

Originally Posted By: Darter

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club)

Well the only thing I can say Unc is that your relative is not as much in the know as he/she is making out. The deal with Leigh RMI was done and dusted until the local council backed out of giving guarantees that RMI would play at the new stadium (the council we trying to entice FCUM to play there at the time - bigger crowds). There was no way we could conclude a deal if the club was going to be left without a ground. The deal began to unravel at that point. RMI only got the go ahead to play at the new ground when FCUM rejected the approach and by that stage the agreement with EUFC was almost concluded.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

Your opinion - but I suggest that you read the report from Shaymandownsouth in the Halifax fanzine about how close a deal with Halifax was - he was closely involved in the negotiations.

MyFC had negotiations in one form or another with about a dozen clubs between League 2 and the Conferecne divisions. Some progressed more than others. Excluding Halifax (who were out of the picture very early) negotiations progressed very significantly with three clubs, EUFC, RMI and a league 2 club - to the point of acutally agreeing final figures. Two of the deals collapsed for different reasons - the deal with EUFC was completed.

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

Classic ... and you are absolutely right about the politics of NW Lancashire, Uncs

Auto Blanc - in the absence of Jeff - Jesus, could your tongue be any further up his ar$e?

[Claudius]

LOL..next stage,Pat..funny stuff!

 

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Interesting given that I had a long conversation with the lawyer involved in the negotiations - the same lawyer that was involved in the negotiations with EUFC. Unc - please don't try and give the impression that you have the remotest idea about everything that MyFC (or other clubs for that matter) has been involved in over the past 10 months.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Do you actually know Simon? I doubt it. And I suggest that you read the article before passing comment - I do believe it is online.

ha ha..very good dom...you may have had a conversation with brooks's lawyer but you didn't have one with a lawyer representing LRMI now did you..?

you would also be surprised what I know about the situation prior to the takeover of the fleet by MyFc as fellow shareholders in one of our family businesses had meetings with the last board of directors with a view to becoming financially involved/taking over the club (I was not involved in those negotiations but was aware of them at all times and have all of the financials) so don't tell me what I do or do not know...!!

your ego gets the better of you at times which is unfortunate and I would remind you that I have been predicting that this lot will end in tears since it started at a time when you were screaming the gospel from the rooftops...you may have changed your tune now all of your little plans have been scuppered and brooks has cold shouldered you but I haven't....

and no dom...I don't do halifax fanzines....

[Darter]

Blanc, how unpleasantly vulgar you can be ... I worked in West Lancashire and know the politics well. You haven't and don't. UU is absolutely right - hence I agree absolutely. If you posted something I agreed with absolutely, I would say the same ...

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: chris blanc

Originally Posted By: Darter

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: doheochai

you came a million miles from buying leigh (that was in truth a non starter as I have a relative closely involved with that club)

Well the only thing I can say Unc is that your relative is not as much in the know as he/she is making out. The deal with Leigh RMI was done and dusted until the local council backed out of giving guarantees that RMI would play at the new stadium (the council we trying to entice FCUM to play there at the time - bigger crowds). There was no way we could conclude a deal if the club was going to be left without a ground. The deal began to unravel at that point. RMI only got the go ahead to play at the new ground when FCUM rejected the approach and by that stage the agreement with EUFC was almost concluded.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

and halifax never even got off the ground and was a smokescreen..

Your opinion - but I suggest that you read the report from Shaymandownsouth in the Halifax fanzine about how close a deal with Halifax was - he was closely involved in the negotiations.

MyFC had negotiations in one form or another with about a dozen clubs between League 2 and the Conferecne divisions. Some progressed more than others. Excluding Halifax (who were out of the picture very early) negotiations progressed very significantly with three clubs, EUFC, RMI and a league 2 club - to the point of acutally agreeing final figures. Two of the deals collapsed for different reasons - the deal with EUFC was completed.

there were several discussions with LRMI which never got anywhere near being concluded nor lawyers being instructed...the council problem with the ground was a political smokescreen to scupper the deal...you obviously don't understand the lord hardhat winstanley rules of north western lancashire politics dom...

fanzines and halifax info eh...crikey dom I thought you had better sources than fanzines...I am disappointed...

Classic ... and you are absolutely right about the politics of NW Lancashire, Uncs

Auto Blanc - in the absence of Jeff - Jesus, could your tongue be any further up his ar$e?

now don't be jealous chrissie just cos the ladies cannot resist me...

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you would also be surprised what I know

Uncle Urchin - the oricle of wisdom

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

I have been predicting that this lot will end in tears

You certainly have enough experience of destroying a club anyway

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

now all of your little plans have been scuppered and brooks has cold shouldered you

Poor me.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: doheochai

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

you would also be surprised what I know

Uncle Urchin - the oricle of wisdom

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

I have been predicting that this lot will end in tears

You certainly have enough experience of destroying a club anyway

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

now all of your little plans have been scuppered and brooks has cold shouldered you

Poor me.

ha ha...I wondered how long it would take you to morph back into wanchai....you must live with your own disappointments dom over the problems with MyFc ....I shall as always do what I do and continue to do so....