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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
Originally Posted By: Horace

To keep out people we don't want?


oh dear horace....your slip is showing....

who said we wanted you over here..? but we still allow you to post as its a truly democratic forum...unlike your new elitist one....

44 members...wow....where are they all...? grin


Interesting and predictable reply! Interesting that you say "we" and interesting that you claim to "allow" us to post on here.
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Originally Posted By: Horace
Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
Originally Posted By: Horace

To keep out people we don't want?


oh dear horace....your slip is showing....

who said we wanted you over here..? but we still allow you to post as its a truly democratic forum...unlike your new elitist one....

44 members...wow....where are they all...? grin


Interesting and predictable reply! Interesting that you say "we" and interesting that you claim to "allow" us to post on here.


its the royal we horace but pedantics aside... what are your views on secretive forums which allow and encourage abuse of non members who cannot reply...?
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
Originally Posted By: Horace
Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
Originally Posted By: Horace

To keep out people we don't want?


oh dear horace....your slip is showing....

who said we wanted you over here..? but we still allow you to post as its a truly democratic forum...unlike your new elitist one....

44 members...wow....where are they all...? grin


Interesting and predictable reply! Interesting that you say "we" and interesting that you claim to "allow" us to post on here.


its the royal we horace but pedantics aside... what are your views on secretive forums which allow and encourage abuse of non members who cannot reply...?


I realise that there's no point in entering into a debate/argument with yourself Uncle, so I'll bugger off to the "secret" forum. I can tell you however that it is a happy place where no-one acts like the stasi and summarily deletes posts or bans members for expressing their own views.
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
but we still allow you to post as its a truly democratic forum


Oh this is a democratic forum then, must be a whole new meaning of the word I've not encountered before.

I suppose that means the GMs have a vote on who they are going to indiscriminately ban next then?
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
Originally Posted By: thespursfan
Who are the "we" that "allow" people to post?

Personally Id like to see horace and others posting here still, but I can see why they started a separate ssml one, and if they just want ssml people on it fair enough.




who are they..? smile


i know who "they" are
I dont know who "we" are
"we" knows who "they" are but "they" dont know who "we" are.
I am not part of the "we" nor part of the "they"

I am the walrus.
Goo goo ge joob.

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Originally Posted By: Global Mod
Yet again a thread hijacked by sniping and bitching.

Listen to yourselves. The rules are simple. Personal abuse will be deleted. If that is too difficult to take in and abide by then go.

it wasnt too fascinating a thread in the first place, but it did quickly show the divide.
personal abuse should be deleted and the offenders dealt with, for which thanks.

"our aim is for everyone to be able to enjoy this site"
everyone? im not convinced the mods have been neutral on this, and we've lost some good correspondents.

the mods seem to be adopting a my way or the highway attitude, and using h potters cloak of invisibility to do it. its been detrimental to the site.





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Originally Posted By: thespursfan
Originally Posted By: Global Mod
Yet again a thread hijacked by sniping and bitching.

Listen to yourselves. The rules are simple. Personal abuse will be deleted. If that is too difficult to take in and abide by then go.

it wasnt too fascinating a thread in the first place, but it did quickly show the divide.
personal abuse should be deleted and the offenders dealt with, for which thanks.

"our aim is for everyone to be able to enjoy this site"
everyone? im not convinced the mods have been neutral on this, and we've lost some good correspondents.

the mods seem to be adopting a my way or the highway attitude, and using h potters cloak of invisibility to do it. its been detrimental to the site.


you have much to say on all of these issues jeff and thats fine and dandy...but answer me these questions please....

how would you deal with posters on here who use 23 different log in names to abuse people with...on all FF forums...

how would you deal with posters on here who send abusive and threatening PM's to fellow members....

how would you deal with members on here who have a financial agenda far remote from the well being of these forums....

how would you deal with members on here who privately ask for money from other members and then openly slag those members off when they decline to assist....

you have all the answers jeffrey old boy...answer me those questions....

and as for the forum...it will be fine...they always are and have a sturdy habit of moving on from trolling and spamming and abusive posters....

much healthier and wiser for the experience...smile
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abuse?ban them.

 

23 login names ? how do you know? but if its just to issue abuse ban them

 

pms to other users ? none of my business p is for personal rather than private?. Threatening? perhaps thats a police matter

 

financial agenda? no idea you'd need to explain.

 

privately ask for money? thats private.reaction should be too.

 

i dont have all the answers or id be king of the castle.

 

and the forum is too quiet.

 

neither healthier or wiser in my view.

 

 

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Originally Posted By: thespursfan
abuse?ban them.

23 login names ? how do you know? but if its just to issue abuse ban them

pms to other users ? none of my business p is for personal rather than private?. Threatening? perhaps thats a police matter

financial agenda? no idea you'd need to explain.

privately ask for money? thats private.reaction should be too.

i dont have all the answers or id be king of the castle.

and the forum is too quiet.

neither healthier or wiser in my view.



a quiet forum can only ever becomes a noisier one jeff.....you are entitled to your opinion but so are others who have made decisions on here related to the past activity.....

it may be perhaps significant to also note that the senior admins and owners of thse fora have supported the GM's in their endeavours to clean the site up....these people have also 'seen it done it' before on here and recognise the danger signs...

may I suggest in the politest possible way that you start posting about football again and stop whinging about whats gone and won't change and then we may all be happier on here....

I include myself in that critisism also...lets move on...
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Originally Posted By: thespursfan
and we've lost some good correspondents

Like Football Man and Spidermanor you mean
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Originally Posted By: thespursfan
uncle, sometimes things happen I dont like, and Id rather discuss it than quit posting in a huff.

You've been good enough to answer, thanks.

Its off my chest, on the record, and away we go.


thanx jeff...its not been a good period on this forum for many and I suppose we are all a bit responsible for that but we do need to shake it off and move on....the new ssml forum is up and running and good luck to them and this one is still here and will re-energise itself....it all sorts itself out in the end...
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
..the new ssml forum is up and running and good luck to them and this one is still here and will re-energise itself....it all sorts itself out in the end...

Yes but my mole on the inside tells me that it is like a library, morgue and graveyard all rolled into one, it's just a facade to attract attention away from our Forum which, to be fair, it has done albeit on a temporary basis.
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