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[Alan ( GNFC )]

There must come a point when PTT is kicked into touch and MYFC act like any other club owner, full of good ideas for revenue streams but letting the football operations team get on with the football.

 

The sooner the better as they are a dinosaur as far as quick reactions / negotiations are concerned.

[Ian_D]

Originally Posted By: KShep

As far as the numbers have gone in terms of participation in votes, increase in attendances and so on, I think it will be a success to get 10,000 renew. How many have signed up since we've been announced?

 

It's been said from day one that we can't have our cake and eat it- we can't accept the investment from MyFC without giving something back i.e. team selection. However, if this idea is to work in the long-term, there needs to be a major rethink of the direction of the organisation between now and next season, and well in advance of renewal time so members know exactly what they are paying for.

 

To be blunt, team selection has to be written out. It could only have ever worked if thousands of people were watching the games, the full 90 minutes. A few hundred at best are making use of this facility, which means any vote on team selection will be swayed by rumours and hearsay on both forums, and those who hold prominent positions or some sort of credibility on the MyFC forum will be able to hugely influence team selection by effectively telling people who to pick. I don't mean they'll behave dictatorially, but those who are unsure who to pick are going to trust the judgement of those members who go to the games. There's nothing bad-natured about this, but we will move from letting an experienced professional do the job, to a few fans- something which totally undermines the ethos of Myfootballclub.

 

MyFC needs to move from PTT to off-the-pitch areas, where the club have arguably struggled in recent years, and where MyFC would be most effective.

 

As far as infrastructure goes, we are only a small club. Those at the club do a good job with the resources we have in terms of promoting the club in the town, to schools, and with soccer schools. However, with the swell in the size of the club now MyFC have become involved, we could do so much more. After all, many members have said they see it as a responsibility of MyFC to boost long-term local support. Activities like the proposed 'fun day' on the 12th/13th July, the new kit, the improved training facilities we have, demonstrate where MyFC could really make a difference. Just look at how it managed to sway the FA to get worldwide coverage of last Saturday. That has done so much more for the club than picking the team ever could.

 

The ideology behind MyFootballClub is a great one; thousands of like-minded people all taking part in something they care in. In theory, it is hard to criticise. But now we've realised the harsh reality of the apathy of the majority of members, and the difficulties in turning great ideas into working systems, we need to reassess the direction of it all.

 

Brilliant post Kayne. Like on so many subjects you put my words onto the page for me. Saves a lot of typing and thinking about how to put it on my part

[doheochai]

Originally Posted By: KShep

As far as the numbers have gone in terms of participation in votes, increase in attendances and so on, I think it will be a success to get 10,000 renew. How many have signed up since we've been announced?

Membership at takeover 18,000 - membership now 30,000

Originally Posted By: KShep

It's been said from day one that we can't have our cake and eat it- we can't accept the investment from MyFC without giving something back i.e. team selection.

Fortunately/Unfortunately - was part of the deal

Originally Posted By: KShep

To be blunt, team selection has to be written out. It could only have ever worked if thousands of people were watching the games, the full 90 minutes. A few hundred at best are making use of this facility, which means any vote on team selection will be swayed by rumours and hearsay on both forums, and those who hold prominent positions or some sort of credibility on the MyFC forum will be able to hugely influence team selection by effectively telling people who to pick. I don't mean they'll behave dictatorially, but those who are unsure who to pick are going to trust the judgement of those members who go to the games. There's nothing bad-natured about this, but we will move from letting an experienced professional do the job, to a few fans- something which totally undermines the ethos of Myfootballclub.

This is sensible - however, as PTT hasn't actually happened yet then we do not know how many members will actually be involved. While several hundred regularly participate, a lot of people indicate that it is a pointless exercise. As for giving direction and influencing people's attitudes - the coach will first and foremost be the person that does this. Unfortunately there has been practically no communication between Laim Daish and the members since MyFC took over the club. If after proper procedures are put in place to facilitate communication between the coaching staff and the membership and PTT actually happens - and we only have a couple of hundred people participating - then by all means scrap it. It deserves to be dumped in those circumstances. I will however, repeat what I have said before - I expect PTT to be far less controversial when it is actually in operation than it is now and I suspect that the coach will have a team that he would be happy to put on the pitch 95% of the time. Remember also that the coach will have a certain flexibility when it come to team selection.

Originally Posted By: KShep

MyFC needs to move from PTT to off-the-pitch areas, where the club have arguably struggled in recent years, and where MyFC would be most effective.

Certianly there is a lot more to running the club than PTT and I would agree that it is here that MyFC can potentially have its biggest impact.

Originally Posted By: KShep

As far as infrastructure goes, we are only a small club. Those at the club do a good job with the resources we have in terms of promoting the club in the town, to schools, and with soccer schools. However, with the swell in the size of the club now MyFC have become involved, we could do so much more. After all, many members have said they see it as a responsibility of MyFC to boost long-term local support. Activities like the proposed 'fun day' on the 12th/13th July, the new kit, the improved training facilities we have, demonstrate where MyFC could really make a difference. Just look at how it managed to sway the FA to get worldwide coverage of last Saturday. That has done so much more for the club than picking the team ever could.

I agree - unfortunately if we lose thousands of members as a result of a failure to implement PTT then MyFC will be in a far weaker position to have such an impact.

Originally Posted By: KShep

The ideology behind MyFootballClub is a great one; thousands of like-minded people all taking part in something they care in. In theory, it is hard to criticise. But now we've realised the harsh reality of the apathy of the majority of members, and the difficulties in turning great ideas into working systems, we need to reassess the direction of it all.

MyFC has been in ownership of the club for three months - give it a chance.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: KShep

The ideology behind MyFootballClub is a great one; thousands of like-minded people all taking part in something they care in.

I actually find it very hard to believe that you wrote that...

[KShep]

From my experience of meeting dozens of members and reading the comments of hundreds more it seems that the organisation has a large proportion of members who were driven to sign up by a desire to de-commercialise football, to give it back to the fans, to ensure the stable running and prosperity of a club, and to see notable progress as a result of their input. That seems like-minded enough to me.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: KShep

From my experience of meeting dozens of members and reading the comments of hundreds more it seems that the organisation has a large proportion of members who were driven to sign up by a desire to de-commercialise football, to give it back to the fans, to ensure the stable running and prosperity of a club, and to see notable progress as a result of their input. That seems like-minded enough to me.

well maybe the like minded fans would consider getting rid of the 30 grand a month losses being incurred and which are surely... as I type... counter productive to the stable running of and prosperity of the club...

the club will be okay in spite of... not because of....

[KShep]

The idea is many like-minded people do a little bit each in the long-term to make the club prosperous. It would counter the ethos of the organisation to act radically- we've seen that MyFC is not the quickest-operating organisation in the world, and it would not be realistic for, in the space of three months, operating losses of

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: KShep

the interest they have generated has gone some way to rising flagging attendances, therefore reducing monthly losses.

well that hasn't been proven as yet has it although I join you in hoping that it will....as for losses being reduced...I doubt it somehow and believe that they have probably risen now the fees and rental agreements have clicked into place...I mentioned on another thread the need for and lack of financials....due out this week I am told...

don't wait up tho'...

[BustaGut]

I cannot understand how some people ( myfc members) cannot see that it is there apathy that will make Myfc fail.

If only a thousand or even two, can be bothered to vote on important matters, it makes there voting system very very week.

Fans from other teams, Will be able to sway our team selection.

They will not have to vote on the whole team but individual members of our team.

Lets take Stevenage for a example, Say 200 of them are members of Myfc. The 200 Stevenage members decide to vote out our inform striker's.

When we either play them or anyone else, that they would rather we did not win against.

Because so few MYFC can be bothered to vote. The 200 Stevenage Myfc members WILL make a big difference.

I do not believe Myfc apathy will change. Even if PTT takes place.

From what I have read on here. They have yet to sort out a budget for the players and transfers. This decision must be One of, if not the most important decision that has to be made in any season. Yet they have so far failed to finalise anything. While other teams are buying and selling players, we are waiting for someone to decide on what sort of vote to have. Puts us at such a disadvantage. will this not leave us with second choice? because they are so slow at making a budget decision

so PTT working ?

I am afraid PTT is unworkable if you want the team to improve

[Darter]

The MyFC forum is very interesting right now. The members are asking for more lots more information, the Operator is quiet and people are posting who've never posted before. I have never seen the forum like this and I have posted on there every single day since August 1st last year. It's like a wind of change.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: BustaGut

I cannot understand how some people ( myfc members) cannot see that it is there apathy that will make Myfc fail.
If only a thousand or even two, can be bothered to vote on important matters, it makes there voting system very very week.
Fans from other teams, Will be able to sway our team selection.
They will not have to vote on the whole team but individual members of our team.
Lets take Stevenage for a example, Say 200 of them are members of Myfc. The 200 Stevenage members decide to vote out our inform striker's.
When we either play them or anyone else, that they would rather we did not win against.
Because so few MYFC can be bothered to vote. The 200 Stevenage Myfc members WILL make a big difference.
I do not believe Myfc apathy will change. Even if PTT takes place.
From what I have read on here. They have yet to sort out a budget for the players and transfers. This decision must be One of, if not the most important decision that has to be made in any season. Yet they have so far failed to finalise anything. While other teams are buying and selling players, we are waiting for someone to decide on what sort of vote to have. Puts us at such a disadvantage. will this not leave us with second choice? because they are so slow at making a budget decision
so PTT working ?
I am afraid PTT is unworkable if you want the team to improve

good post busta and I agree with much of what you say but don't worry about the good players being all signed up.....many a good manager refuses to get involved in the close season transfer fandango and I agree with that course....players are expensive now and are cheaper in the late autumn...

[BustaGut]

[quote=Uncle Urchin.

good post busta and I agree with much of what you say but don't worry about the good players being all signed up.....many a good manager refuses to get involved in the close season transfer fandango and I agree with that course....players are expensive now and are cheaper in the late autumn...

 

I realise that you are correct about the players etc UU, but being able to have the option,on players would be a nice thing.

[KShep]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: KShep

the interest they have generated has gone some way to rising flagging attendances, therefore reducing monthly losses.

well that hasn't been proven as yet has it although I join you in hoping that it will....as for losses being reduced...I doubt it somehow and believe that they have probably risen now the fees and rental agreements have clicked into place...I mentioned on another thread the need for and lack of financials....due out this week I am told...

don't wait up tho'...

You can't dismiss the assumption that attendances have risen slightly since MyFC's involvement began yet jump to the conclusion that agreed rent costs have rocketed monthly outgoings. However this is another reminder that financial transparency needs to be implemented soon to make this clear- yet then we reach the stumbling block of how much we actually make clear- enough to give other clubs the upper hand in transfer dealings?

I want to give MyFC the chance it deserves to work but I am worried too much that it will destroy the progress made since I've supported the Fleet, and hinder chances of future progress.

[Darter]

Financial information is to be available on Monday 26th, so the Chairman of the Society Board told us.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: KShep

You can't dismiss the assumption that attendances have risen slightly since MyFC's involvement began yet jump to the conclusion that agreed rent costs have rocketed monthly outgoings.

the rise in attendances is minimal but the STATED rise in costs is not...I haven't jumped to any conclusions about that as it was much broadcast in the revelations related to the deal posted on here and everywhere else...

[Harry J Allstars]

Originally Posted By: Darter

Financial information is to be available on Monday 26th, so the Chairman of the Society Board told us.

Oh damn, I'm going out that day.

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Harry J Allstars

Originally Posted By: Darter

Financial information is to be available on Monday 26th, so the Chairman of the Society Board told us.

Oh damn, I'm going out that day.

Stay in and wash your hair, Paul!

[PatMan]

Bringing this back 'on topic', can anyone shed some light on the 'Soccer Am - An apology' thread?

 

I guess it refers to the fact they totally ignored the Trophy result in case it made Helen cry, but would be interested to know for sure

 

Cheers

 

Pat C

[Stu M]

This was the first post in that thread:

 

Quote:

I emailed Soccer AM complaining about the one-sided coverage of the FA Trophy Final. I expected no reply, but Rob Wakeling, a producer on the show, took the time to write this:

 

Hi Steve

 

Many thanks for your email. Apologies for any offence you might have taken from our coverage of Ebbsfleet in recent weeks. Helen