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Harry J Allstars

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Originally Posted By: ianinho
...you can see why some of us feel it's 'a local team, for local folk'.


Surely that's the idea of having clubs all over the country? You pick one close to home and support them?



You would get eaten alive if you said that on MyFC.

I'm staying completely out of that one.
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Originally Posted By: ianinho
...you can see why some of us feel it's 'a local team, for local folk'.


Surely that's the idea of having clubs all over the country? You pick one close to home and support them?



Support your local club... Now that is radical thinking..

Do you ever think it will catch on.


Up the Fleet
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Originally Posted By: PatMan
Originally Posted By: ianinho
...you can see why some of us feel it's 'a local team, for local folk'.


Surely that's the idea of having clubs all over the country? You pick one close to home and support them?






You would get eaten alive if you said that on MyFC.

I'm staying completely out of that one.


It's almost worth joining just to ask that question....

Anyone want to lend me
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Originally Posted By: PatMan
Originally Posted By: ianinho
...you can see why some of us feel it's 'a local team, for local folk'.


Surely that's the idea of having clubs all over the country? You pick one close to home and support them?



Support your local club... Now that is radical thinking..

Do you ever think it will catch on.


Up the Fleet


'Support your local club' wasn't working for you.
The finances say that Ebbsfleet didn't have enough support to keep going. That's why your previous owners sold the club, and that's why some of us new fans have appeared. You'll think we're misguided, but we'd like to help.
If you'd had 2,000 plus supporters locally, you wouldn't have had to pick some up from any place else.
Yes you want 'real local' supporters. But I'm going to get to more games next season than AFF.
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Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1
Good point Ian...........................But you still have forty five years of attending to catch up on!


If it wasn't for my(and others)long term support.............You wouldn't have a Team to think you own!


Sorry, I won't be able to do 45 years, but my kids might.

I completely accept your point on the long term support. Hopefully we can build on it.
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Originally Posted By: wobbly Wayne II
Originally Posted By: PatMan
Originally Posted By: ianinho
...you can see why some of us feel it's 'a local team, for local folk'.


Surely that's the idea of having clubs all over the country? You pick one close to home and support them?



Support your local club... Now that is radical thinking..

Do you ever think it will catch on.


Up the Fleet


'Support your local club' wasn't working for you.
The finances say that Ebbsfleet didn't have enough support to keep going. That's why your previous owners sold the club, and that's why some of us new fans have appeared. You'll think we're misguided, but we'd like to help.
If you'd had 2,000 plus supporters locally, you wouldn't have had to pick some up from any place else.
Yes you want 'real local' supporters. But I'm going to get to more games next season than AFF.


You missed the point of the post, which is a dig at the local populous rather than MYFC.


'Support your local club' wasn't working for you. - Since 1890's we have had teams of varying degrees of success, could we support a league team on our support, obviously no. Can we support a conference club on our support, again the answer is no.
But can we locally support a team the answer is obviously yes. As we have done for over 100 years, and this was solely by locals. I found the manner of your post on the patronising side.


I also , and I think speak for most, couldn't give a [****!!****] if the turnstiles click with locals or non locals, I myself have a 60 mile round trip to home games, and make all weekend games. They just need to be clicking with more regularity than they have done in the past couple of seasons to compete in this league. You are right a serious conference club needs at least 2000 regulars. we have only very recently become a conference club, otherwise we could very successfully compete at the lower level, as we have done in the past.

Clubs tend to find their true level and that is inexplicably linked to attendances. Yes, some clubs buck the trend in the short term , but soon or later they go back to their level. It is when you try to buck the trend you get unstuck. We were bucking the trend by remaining in the conference with a budget we couldn't support as our attendances fell. The board obviously gambled that the quite rapid rise in attendances from the last few ryman years and the first conference years would continue unabated if they just kept the team on the rise,some people at the time thought it was a folly and as attendances declined this showed you reap what you sow.. we are in danger of bucking the trend further with our current set up.

so whether MYFC are on board or not, for us to keep going at this level we need more in through the gates, otherwise we will fall down the pyramid, let alone talk about promotion.

My line on this has not changed from day 1, I dont understand how anyone can have affinity with a team that they had chosen for them, but I am more than happy to stand shoulder to shoulder alongside them on the terraces, and as they have paid the money I am more than happy for them to dictate off the field activities especially as within our number we must have experts in most fields, and if they put a strategy in place that will build a long term fan base for us , then I would be over the moon. ( But in saying all that, PTT will be a step to far for me, and I am afraid I would have to walk away from a 35 year association with my club)


I want league football at Stonebridge Road more than most, but to do that we need over 2000 every week regardless of opposition, until we get that I would prefer to stay where we are, as if you lot walk away if we fail to steam up the divisions,we would be bigger in the [****!!****] than we are now.

FYI - I am a previous owner ( shareholder) and I have sold to no one, so I am a still an existing owner as well, although now watered down by the continuing new releases of shares over the years.
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American FLEET FAN No1

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Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1
Good point Ian...........................But you still have forty five years of attending to catch up on!


If it wasn't for my(and others)long term support.............You wouldn't have a Team to think you own!


Sorry, I won't be able to do 45 years, but my kids might.

I completely accept your point on the long term support. Hopefully we can build on it.



Then please don't alienate the Fleet Faithful that have spent thousands of Pounds down the years by trying to act as the Saviours whilst spending 27.5 pounds! Buy a season ticket so the Club gets an annual income they can use!
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Superb post Wobbly - you're not the only one for whom attaining League status isn't the be-all and end-all. Indeed, it concerns me that the Club may be so set on this that budgetary over-reaching may continue, keeping the Club in potential jeopardy.

 

Ultimately, our fanbase attending matches is much the same as it has been for several years, and if the consequence of this is a slide down the division and even out of the Conference, then so be it - it wouldn't affect my support for the Club one bit. Living within our means is preferable to bankruptcy; MyFC or no MyFC, we shouldn't be trying to be something we're not by spending money we don't have (the cash injection from MyFC, after all, is still covering previous and ongoing monthly losses).

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Agreed. It doesn't matter to me whether the club are playing League 2 football or Kent League football, I'll always support them - it's certainly nice to see them as successful as they are now but I'll always follow them

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This is an arguement that Fleet followers and fans will not be able to win. PTT is THE stumbling block and the main cause of divide. A few of the few MYFC who have attended Stonebridge Road have seen the light, and have either been persuaded, or worked out for themselves that PTT is an unworkable experiment, as those picking the team have insufficient inside knowledge and expertise so to do.

As others have said, whilst I yearn for Fleet to play league football, it is not the be all and end all. I watched thenm in the heady days of the 70's against the likes of Corby and Merthyr Tydfil, barely 1 league above Kent league.

But I watched them.

Whilst I cannot envisage us descending to that level again, stranger things have happened, take Margate, Maidstone,Dartford and Dover as prime examples.

Sadly the majority of MYFC, whether living in Australia, Timbucktoo or Outer Mongolia have paid their shillings and wrongly expect to pick Liam's team.

Our only hope is that PTT fails, Will and his board see that it a failure, do not instigate it the following year, and MYFC continues in a watered down form, "Own the team, decide how the club is run" - but no PTT.

Even 10,000 members in this format would raise

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I note that one of the teams we were never going to play against (but some thought otherwise) during the poorly planned trip to Scotland, has been elected to the Scottish Football League - Annan Athletic. Good luck to them in their first campaign at this level.

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ebbsfleet is for life Newbie

ebbsfleet is for life

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The truley wonderful Manicscot must be gutted now. He could have lifted his ego sorry profile no end by arranging a gamr against Annan
looks like we are heading for barrow on sept 27 instead.hopefully we get a good following up there.booked in at the travelodge near the ground.should be a great weekend.come on the fleet
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