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Originally Posted By: Riverview Supporter
There is healthy debate amongst the locals actually. I had a brief conversation with one supporter who although isnt 100% behind MYFC is happy how things are. We debated the fine points and ended up parting amicablly and likely to have a beer together at the Oxford game.

If you ever get 100% of the locals agreeing then it will be a boring time at the club.


On here more than two agreeing is a first a lot of the time cuddle
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So, a board is democratically elected by the members, yet you want to change it because you ( or whoever the "we" is that you refer to ) do not like the result !!

My attitude to the board election has nothing to do with my personal opinion and everything to do with what is in the best interests of the club and MyFC. Interestingly that the Board, comprising mostly of locals also acknowledge that the problem needs to be addressed.

Originally Posted By: Hirsty

I know that there are no overseas members on the Board.....but that's democracy for you !

Democracy isn't perfect - and a election often throws up unexpected results for whatever reason. Most of the time those elected try and ignore problems that an election result can create. Credit must be given to the members of the MyFC board for acknowledging that a problem exists and discussing how to deal with it.
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Originally Posted By: David Holden

I've never been entirely clear on what the function of the Society Board is.

Is it more than simply overseeing the day to day running of the Society?

It includes initiating and facilitating proposals from members and implementing decisions in relation to MyFC and, through the club Board, decisions in relation to the club.

There now appears to be a question mark over the willingness of one board member to engage with other board members and, in particular, with the MyFC membership. I can see where some people are coming from on this - I would suggest that people need a bit more than a month to demonstrate if they intend to do the job they were elected to do. Problem is that this particular member has, so far, not addressed any of the concerns that have been expressed.
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Originally Posted By: Heenan73

Don't get me wrong, MyFC is important, and are undoubtedly having a beneficial effect on the club. But don't worry about the Hot Air. Just think 'Liverpool' and thank your stars we don't have so much at stake.

 

Speak for yourself. There is a lot at stake here is MyFC goes wrong.

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But it isn't going wrong; it's just 'doing their own thing'.

 

My point is that if Liverpool can keep playing well while their owners bicker, EUFC supporters really have no need to get anxious about much of what is happening at MyFC - Hey, most of us at MyFC aren't even getting anxious about it - most of the 'noise' comes from a tiny minority.

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Originally Posted By: doheochai


Democracy isn't perfect - and a election often throws up unexpected results for whatever reason. Most of the time those elected try and ignore problems that an election result can create. Credit must be given to the members of the MyFC board for acknowledging that a problem exists and discussing how to deal with it.


So...in plain English....you have had a vote of the members, as per the rules, you don't like the result of the member's votes, so you want to change it somehow ? Sounds very fair to me....NOT !

You are not covering yourself in glory here mate ( can I call you mate ? or do you get the right ravin' with that as well ?)

You do talk a load of old sh*t !

How many other polls will you try and manipulate to suit your needs ?

Cheers,

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you don't like the result of the member's votes, so you want to change it somehow ? Sounds very fair to me....NOT !

Actually its the board that you are so stoutly defending that want to change it. Fortunately they are not as close-minded about it as yourself.
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I'm not so sure it's about being closed minded, thousands of people voted for something that a few of us are talking about changing. I'm not sure we really have the right to be honest.

 

I'm also not really happy about voting so soon to change any vote that hasn't really had a chance to implement itself. Give the whole thing time to work. If it can't, then we change it next season.

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I'm not so sure it's about being closed minded, thousands of people voted for something that a few of us are talking about changing. I'm not sure we really have the right to be honest.

I'm also not really happy about voting so soon to change any vote that hasn't really had a chance to implement itself. Give the whole thing time to work. If it can't, then we change it next season.



Nicely put... applause
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Originally Posted By: chris blanc
I'm not so sure it's about being closed minded, thousands of people voted for something that a few of us are talking about changing.

If we have a vote and ask the membership do they want to increase the size of the board then we will find out if it is a few people or many people that want to change it.
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I'm not sure we really have the right to be honest.

Under the rules of MyFC the membership can or the Board can.
Originally Posted By: chris blanc
Give the whole thing time to work. If it can't, then we change it next season.

There is a danger that there could be damage done in the meantime.

The main advantage of MyFC as an ownership model over that of an individual owner - is that if a mistake is made we have a mechanism to change it. A single owner who makes a mistake inevitably compounds it by make more. This is what we should avoid.
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Originally Posted By: chris blanc
I'm not so sure it's about being closed minded, thousands of people voted for something that a few of us are talking about changing.

If we have a vote and ask the membership do they want to increase the size of the board then we will find out if it is a few people or many people that want to change it.
Originally Posted By: chris blanc
I'm not sure we really have the right to be honest.

Under the rules of MyFC the membership can or the Board can.
Originally Posted By: chris blanc
Give the whole thing time to work. If it can't, then we change it next season.

There is a danger that there could be damage done in the meantime.

The main advantage of MyFC as an ownership model over that of an individual owner - is that if a mistake is made we have a mechanism to change it. A single owner who makes a mistake inevitably compounds it by make more. This is what we should avoid.


What worries me is where we have a vote, give it a month, decide it's not working so have another vote. Less people will vote on that, because what's the point? If someone doesn't like it we'll just take it again, and again, and again. Where do we stop??

We'll get to the point where we have less than 1000 people voting on important issues.

Who's to say that by changing it we're not making it worse? At the very least it cheapens us in my view.
We don't know what we're doing. Everyone accepts that. Some would use it against MyFC, some would say that it's the beauty of the project, but lets at least give ourselves a chance to shine.

Is 7 members on the board too few? Perhaps, but instead of going through all the crap that we've had for the past few months (god forbid we add more board members and a foreigner doesn't get on), why don't we help the current board rather than spend all our time damaging them?

If we all pulled together we could do wonders here. But that's gonna be the hard part and that's why people don't think this can work.

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I know im a newbie on here so I don't know the full ins and outs, but from an outsiders point of view I think the MyFC will go far once they've had a little while to find their wings. Now you have more fans (the odd 30,000 thats joined up) the club can move forward with the amount of marketing and money it can make in this venture.

 

Once the money starts to come in then more players can come in and lift Ebbsfleet into League two.

 

Obviously I completely understand the hardcore supporters not being happy with such take over, but I say give it some time and hopefully the club will reap the rewards, and reward the suporters by gaining football league status.

 

It might seem a long way off yet, but give it time rather then fight them on every issue.

 

 

I dont expect everyone to agree with me on here, im just giving an outsiders point of view.

 

Well hopefully a win today on my first first to stonebridge!!!

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The danger is that MyFC will disappear up it's own a*se; with every vote, there's a bunch of die-hards who didn't win, trying to find excuses to take it again.

 

Not a problem in itself, most of them are so obvious, boring and repetitive - but with a less than confident board, they could start winning. Then it will be anarchy - and 30,000 will have wasted their money, misdirected and not controlled by a board that is being harassed and bullied, and has not - yet - had the courage to face down the troublemakers.

 

I'm not too worried, I think the board is young yet, and there's time. But they only have to give in once to endless stupid campaigns, and they are deep, deep sh*t.

 

Even then, UEFC is not at risk - but worse case scenario is simply not getting the benefits that 30,000 people want to direct to the club. Which would be a serious shame.

 

We'll see soon enough, I guess.

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Originally Posted By: doheochai
If we have a vote and ask the membership do they want to increase the size of the board then we will find out if it is a few people or many people that want to change it.


This would do nothing for the credibility of MyFC as a democratic organisation and the press would have a field day. The obvious reason why the majority might now vote for an increase is they don't like the disproportional number of locals that were elected to the board. Now remind me where H J Allstars finished....oh I remember, 10th just in front of yourself and behind the girl who draws comics.


Originally Posted By: doheochai
There is a danger that there could be damage done in the meantime.


There could, but there are ways of co-opting foreign members without compromising the original vote.


Originally Posted By: doheochai

The main advantage of MyFC as an ownership model over that of an individual owner - is that if a mistake is made we have a mechanism to change it. A single owner who makes a mistake inevitably compounds it by make more. This is what we should avoid.

Very poor..... what mistakes have MyFC made in this respect ? And anyone with enough (spare) money to own a football club generally has enough sense to recognise their mistakes and not repeat/compound them.
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If a few people making a lot of noise are allowed to overturn a democratic vote then every vote will be followed by an awful lot of noise.

It would be anarchy, MyFC is sold on the principles of Wisdom of the Crowds not He who shouts loudest wins.

It hasn't been helped by the fact that the instant reaction to the vote by some of those who thought that they would be elected and wheren't left a very sour taste in the mouth.

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