Town and the QE Stadium

[etfc]

we have 84% MULLTI PURPOSE ONLY HAS 16%

[football fanatic]

That's about as Legit as voting in Zimbabwe.

[BrimsdownRover]

Originally Posted By: Albury_Walker

Originally Posted By: Sponsor of Beer

Originally Posted By: enfield_paul

Ps..One united Enfield football club would have had a much better chance of securing the site.I hope all those who rejected any discussion towards that aim in the past,take a long hard look at themsleves,if the Fairview or Lloyds ultimately demolish the stadium

It's hard to see how there is any common ground between the 1893 & ETFC proposals for the QE Stadium. 1893's is based around building a new bar; there wasn't much clarity of thought about how the stadium would operate other than it would be a joint venture with Town, Ignatians & athletics, save for a rather vague reference to a 'committee'. Personally, I can't see the Council or the Police finding the new bar acceptable, and I guess more competition for the Halfway House will probably draw them into the debate.

I suppose 1893 could approach Town for a ground share agreement at the re-vamped QE, but that wouldn't seem to be consistent with their own business plan. On that basis, it seems a bit rich that they complain elsewhere that Town didn't include them in its proposals!

So you Townies wont be putting up your own clubhouse then ? Who are you trying to kid or are the tactics of brimsdown going to be repeated, use the existing clubhouse and howell for bar revenue when you put up your mecano stands . looks like a repeat performance to me .Do you think the other businesses are that stupid ,There are more of you townies than the other clubs members ,so a townie clubhouse would have a bigger impact on the beefeater and the rugby club than the Enfield 1883 bid .

[BrimsdownRover]

Originally Posted By: Mr Happy

Originally Posted By: Soppy_Lemon

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

What do you want answered that isn't covered?

What happens to our ground when you move out?

On a serious note, I would have thought that both sites would be used as Rovers and Town both have reserve and youth sides and Town also have the Ladies to consider. Over the two sites, both clubs would then have the ability to really develop football throughout the Borough at all levels and to guys and gals alike. Rovers coul;d then have the potential to move up the pyramid and become well-established as teh second non league club in the Borough.

The level of arrogance and bare faced cheek never ceases to amaze me , You people are just a bunch of freeloaders . By the way ...... The lease applies to your 1st team only not all the other hangers on as well . If these teams want to play at Brimmo then you have to pay rent , But knowing you lot as I do I wont hold my breath waiting for the cheque to arrive .

[Sponsor of Beer]

Originally Posted By: BrimsdownRover

Originally Posted By: Albury_Walker

Originally Posted By: Sponsor of Beer

Originally Posted By: enfield_paul

Ps..One united Enfield football club would have had a much better chance of securing the site.I hope all those who rejected any discussion towards that aim in the past,take a long hard look at themsleves,if the Fairview or Lloyds ultimately demolish the stadium

It's hard to see how there is any common ground between the 1893 & ETFC proposals for the QE Stadium. 1893's is based around building a new bar; there wasn't much
clarity of thought about how the stadium would operate other than it would be a joint venture with Town, Ignatians & athletics, save for a rather vague reference to a 'committee'. Personally, I can't see the Council or the Police finding the new bar acceptable, and I guess more competition for the Halfway House will probably draw them into the debate.

I suppose 1893 could approach Town for a ground share agreement at the re-vamped QE, but that wouldn't seem to be consistent with their own business plan. On that basis, it seems a bit rich that they complain elsewhere that Town didn't include them in its proposals!

So you Townies wont be putting up your own clubhouse then ? Who are you trying to kid or are the tactics of brimsdown going to be repeated, use the existing clubhouse and howell for bar revenue when you put up your mecano stands . looks like a repeat performance to me .Do you think the other businesses are that stupid ,There are more of you townies than the other clubs members ,so a townie clubhouse would have a bigger impact on the beefeater and the rugby club than the Enfield 1883 bid .

The point is that ETFC has a plan that will allow the reuse of the existing building structures. 1893 doesn't & intends for something new and bigger to generate more revenue. It has no apparent thinking about the recycling/reuse of the stadium. It's simply a matter of having different business plans and differing priorities.

Does the area need a new late night venue there, I doubt it.

[Sponsor of Beer]

Originally Posted By: BrimsdownRover

Originally Posted By: Mr Happy

Originally Posted By: Soppy_Lemon

Originally Posted By: lovely stuff

What do you want answered that isn't covered?

What happens to our ground when you move out?

On a serious note, I would have thought that both sites would be used as Rovers and Town both have reserve and youth sides and Town also have the Ladies to consider. Over the two sites, both clubs would then have the ability to really develop football throughout the Borough at all levels and to guys and gals alike. Rovers coul;d then have the potential to move up the pyramid and become well-established as teh second non league club in the Borough.

The level of arrogance and bare faced cheek never ceases to amaze me , You people are just a bunch of freeloaders . By the way ...... The lease applies to your 1st team only not all the other hangers on as well . If these teams want to play at Brimmo then you have to pay rent , But knowing you lot as I do I wont hold my breath waiting for the cheque to arrive .

That strikes me as very unlikely!

[Gazza]

Originally Posted By: Soppy_Lemon

What happens to our ground when you move out?

Dont stress we will let all three of you know what will happen to our ground in good time!!!

[lovely stuff]

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[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted By: Gazza

Originally Posted By: Soppy_Lemon

What happens to our ground when you move out?

Dont stress we will let all three of you know what will happen to our ground in good time!!!

Simple WE take OUR ground with US and leave YOU with A pitch, seen as tho you have no gratitude for the work we have done.
I'm sure you will be more than happy with your ground whoooops i mean pitch back to how it was

[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted By: BrimsdownRover

But knowing you lot as I do I wont hold my breath waiting for the cheque to arrive .

O please do...dont let us stop you

[Southport - TOWNER]

as BRFC have never even paid for a light bulb in 6 years, do we take those as well, as the seats, covered areas, tea huts, out buildings, paint off the dressing room walls, shower curtain from thr refs room?

 

[andyetfc]

The seated accommodation and covered terracing have been identified as the property of ETFC. I am sure they are on some form of asset register somewhere.

[MK James]

Originally Posted By: Southport - TOWNER

as BRFC have never even paid for a light bulb in 6 years, do we take those as well, as the seats, covered areas, tea huts, out buildings, paint off the dressing room walls, shower curtain from thr refs room?

Why not? If you paid for it, it's yours.

[Mr Happy]

For the good of ETFC and BRFC, we need to work closer. SL, like myself, had misgivings about the shared lease. However, we are now in it and need to make it work. As such, nasty sniping between the two parties should cease. Friendly banter should continue though.

[Squadron Leader]

Originally Posted By: Mr Happy

For the good of ETFC and BRFC, we need to work closer. SL, like myself, had misgivings about the shared lease. However, we are now in it and need to make it work. As such, nasty sniping between the two parties should cease. Friendly banter should continue though.

Quite agree Mr H, we are trying to make it work but it is still very difficult. I think we need a few more people to join BRSSC like Mr Safety Officer and myself did.

[Albury_Walker]

Sponsor of beer said

 

The point is that ETFC has a plan that will allow the reuse of the existing building structures. 1893 doesn't & intends for something new and bigger to generate more revenue. It has no apparent thinking about the recycling/reuse of the stadium. It's simply a matter of having different business plans and differing priorities.

 

Does the area need a new late night venue there, I doubt it. So what your saying is its OK to have a clubhouse as long as you use the existing buildings ? Oh well thats alright then maybee nobody will notice then . So what about the Rugby club's bar and the beefeater's customers then ? you failed to answer that one and the fact that its ok for you to be in competition for punters and nobody else can ? . Also what about the kids that use the buildings for weekend football and Rugby and the Athletics clubs which also use the existing buildings ? Do they get the boot too then ? maybee Enfield 1883 wish to continue to let the buildings be used by those that currently do and have no intension of pushing them away , Maybee thats why they want to build a clubhouse in some part of the stadium boundary so not to interfere with anybody else ? What about the 70 or so tree's you plan to fell, You know the very same tree's that filter down the glare of the lights that maybee will be lighting up peoples homes until 11 pm each night . If I lived around there I would find it unacceptable . How can you live with yourselves with the fact that you'll be turfing out schools and disabled people's pleasure's just so you can tell all who will listen that your so bloody wonderful . The multi choice option is by far the lesser of the two evils as to what you people have in store over there .

[lovely stuff]

Your ignorance of the subject is frightening.Where you as concerned when the five-a-side pitches were placed directly onto the playing fields.Were you concerned at the prospect of the light they were beaming into peoples houses?

 

ETFC reperesent hundreds of children in the borough.We have hundreds of kids playing for us from U9 onwards, in both boys and girls team.The needs of the rugby club and those who hire out the football pitches and changing rooms and Saturday/Sunday morning will be taken care of, in consultation with the council.I believe all those teams that currently use the pitches pay well over

[Gazza]

Originally Posted By: Albury_Walker

.... What about the 70 or so tree's you plan to fell, You know the very same tree's that filter down the glare of the lights that maybee will be lighting up peoples homes until 11 pm each night . If I lived around there I would find it unacceptable . How can you live with yourselves with the fact that you'll be turfing out schools and disabled people's pleasure's .....

Is Albury Jose O'Ware in disguise?

Talk about dramatic & over the top, I think he peaked at the "turfing out schools & disabled people's pleasure" surely you must include Mother & Toddler play groups in there somewhere as well then you have a full house!

Your nothing more than a $hite stirer!

[Sponsor of Beer]

Originally Posted By: Albury_Walker

Sponsor of beer said

The point is that ETFC has a plan that will allow the reuse of the existing building structures. 1893 doesn't & intends for something new and bigger to generate more revenue. It has no apparent thinking about the recycling/reuse of the stadium. It's simply a matter of having different business plans and differing priorities.

Does the area need a new late night venue there, I doubt it. So what your saying is its OK to have a clubhouse as long as you use the existing buildings ? Oh well thats alright then maybee nobody will notice then . So what about the Rugby club's bar and the beefeater's customers then ? you failed to answer that one and the fact that its ok for you to be in competition for punters and nobody else can ? . Also what about the kids that use the buildings for weekend football and Rugby and the Athletics clubs which also use the existing buildings ? Do they get the boot too then ? maybee Enfield 1883 wish to continue to let the buildings be used by those that currently do and have no intension of pushing them away , Maybee thats why they want to build a clubhouse in some part of the stadium boundary so not to interfere with anybody else ? What about the 70 or so tree's you plan to fell, You know the very same tree's that filter down the glare of the lights that maybee will be lighting up peoples homes until 11 pm each night . If I lived around there I would find it unacceptable . How can you live with yourselves with the fact that you'll be turfing out schools and disabled people's pleasure's just so you can tell all who will listen that your so bloody wonderful . The multi choice option is by far the lesser of the two evils as to what you people have in store over there .

So, by definition you'd prefer there to be another housing development encroach upon the Playing Fields. Or are you just with the NIMBY fringe. You really shouldn't believe all that you read, although as Cheshunt now seems to be seeking to develop a similar third party investment set-up I assume AW is just trying to stir up trouble here.

[Mr Happy]

If you look at all proposals, the only one that really speaks about regenrating a site that has fallen into disrepair if ETFc's. All the other proposals are just bit part ideas. Igantains can be accomodated by ETFC. For athletics to contiue the track needs ripping up. Who will pay for that?? 1893 are not part of the Borough of Enfield and NEVER have be so why should they be given the opportunity to muscle in. What do they give back to Enfield. Jack s4it. Etfc offer people of all ages and sex the opportunity to take part in the biggest sport in the UK.