Should MYFC members be allowed to pick our team?

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Bitch

We are lonely for you Uncs! Paranoid Moonie Loonies

I see you have escaped from the deluded clutches of Rhodesy!

[Bitch]

Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1

Originally Posted By: Bitch

We are lonely for you Uncs! Paranoid Moonie Loonies

I see you have escaped from the deluded clutches of Rhodesy!

I am his puppet, gosh you should see his hand in this!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Bitch

Originally Posted By: American FLEET FAN No1

Originally Posted By: Bitch

We are lonely for you Uncs! Paranoid Moonie Loonies

I see you have escaped from the deluded clutches of Rhodesy!

I am his puppet, gosh you should see his hand in this!

[Cardomon]

I try UU. I post under the same name over there but I doubt I have more than half a dozen posts.

 

One of the things that suprised me was the whole Nike debate. There was quite a healthy debate on the subject, heated at times. But it was obvious that there was a very vocal group of people against the deal. To then see that only about 1200 out of 28k actually voted against makes you wonder.

In saying that I'm also aware that internet forums tend to polorise opinion and you can get a distorted view simply because most of the people holding the middle ground dont post.

 

I dont come here with any hidden agenda. I like to see what people think (especially as I now have to vote about things some of which I know very little about), and I like the banter of the forums.

I realise there is a lack of trust, but trust has to be earned and as I don't 100% trust myfc yet then why would the people for whom the club has meant alot over many years trust them.

[John Pearce]

Originally Posted By: Cardomon

I realise there is a lack of trust, but trust has to be earned and as I don't 100% trust myfc yet then why would the people for whom the club has meant alot over many years trust them.

Christ!

Somebody talking sense from MyFc?

[.matty]

hmm, well myfc enjoy the democracy of voting. On an independant Ebbsfleet United fans forum (here) after 8 days of voting 81% have voted NO to myfc picking the team.

[Jeff]

Picking the team is a farcical notion.

[Derryman]

How dare you, peasant ! I'll have you know I am now a CLUB OWNER and a TEAM PICKER. Peel me another grape while I'm having my Executive legs waxed.

[fatbury]

This is what I think about the situation. I believe that there should be an option to pass your vote over to Liam to select the side if you so wish. If over 50% do that then Liam basically carries on as normal and picks the team he likes. I think the way things are going most people will take this option - I know I would. However if results aren't so good in the future and people want a change then the votes to Liam might drop below the 50% required and the members pick the team. I think this way everyone will be happy including Liam and the players.

 

(Incidentally this is my first post on this forum - Id like to say ive been involved with Ebbsfleet since the MYFC takeover team was initially announced as Ebbsfleet and have been following them ever since, making 3 home games and 3 away games but listening on the radio whenever I couldnt attend and in this short space of time I've taken the club fully to my heart which I wasn't sure would be possible but it is. I'd also like to say thank you to the long serving supporters of EUFC for making me feel so welcome)

[DA11]

Hi Fatbury. Welcome.

[kaizen]

Yes, welcome along Fatbury - a reasoned first post might I add

[Derryman]

Hi, Fatbury. I've already said elsewhere that I think it's ridiculous that 28,000+ people scattered to the 4 winds should be telling the man who works day in, day out on the scene with the players who he should or shouldn't pick to play in a particular game. I favour a "Leave it to Liam" option.

 

Between you and me (don't tell anyone else), some of these 28,000 couldn't pick their nose never mind a team !

[fatbury]

Thank you for welcoming me to the forums. I think its inevitable that some people have no idea whatsoever but I do think that the percentage of people who know absolutely nothing will be offset by the people who are studying it intently and getting it exactly right (like me ) ... which leaves the middle people to actually pick the team should it be down to the members ie there isnt a Liam vote.

 

Its easy to think this might not work ... but I dont think its necessarily so. Where I do see difficulties is that tactical awareness is lost - members may pick too attacking a formation in an away game against a tough side but what is also lost is that members don't see the players week in week out and most importantly don't see them in training - interact with them daily - ie actually know the player in question. For example one week a personal issue may affect a player and he would be better left out for that week but only really Liam would know that as it's not likely to be publicised.

 

We can only hope that all goes well - Im certain that the majority of the members want us to be successful and hopefully this positivity will help the members choices be for the better rather than the worse.

 

I still think a pass your vote to Liam option is required though. After all as far as Im concerned Id still be picking the team even though Im not - fully satisfied that if I wasnt happy Id still be able to do something about it in the future. But as it is I have every confidence in Liam Daish and his staff and we are very lucky to have him at Ebbsfleet.

[Derryman]

I broadly agree with you. In a real club situation, if we were owners/directors or whatever, we'd appoint a manager and let him get on with it. Any manager worth his salt would soon get fed up with directors telling him who to pick or not pick. The Special One is said to have blown his top a few times because Roman was coming into the dressing room too often at Chelski - even though he owned everything.

 

The "own the club, pick the team" business is just smoke and mirrors.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Derryman

I broadly agree with you. In a real club situation, if we were owners/directors or whatever, we'd appoint a manager and let him get on with it. Any manager worth his salt would soon get fed up with directors telling him who to pick or not pick. The Special One is said to have blown his top a few times because Roman was coming into the dressing room too often at Chelski - even though he owned everything.

The "own the club, pick the team" business is just smoke and mirrors.

it is of course well known and much publicised that I pick the Hx teams....

[kaizen]

And now Mr wotsisname at Grays will be picking their team now old Justin's gone to sign on...

 

 

[clowntown]

Originally Posted By: Derryman

The "own the club, pick the team" business is just smoke and mirrors.

Indeed. As I have been stating on here since the day MyFC were first linked with Ebbsfleet.

HOWEVER: "own the club, pick the team" is what people were paying £35 for. If you don't want to pick the team why sign up in the first place? Why not give the £35 to your local Non-League team or a grassroots football initiative?

Whilst the opinion on message boards suggests us MyFC members/moonies/muppets don't want to pick the team only a small percentage even post on boards. Look at the Nike issue where message board posts suggested a 50/50 yes-no split yet the final vote was nearly 95% yes.

The fact of the matter is that the 'silent majority' of MyFC signees joined purely and simply to play Championship Manager for real. That was the pitch, that was the appeal.

If they end up not getting to pick the team for real (and I don't think they will) they will at the very least not renew, meaning - as most people are coming to accept now - the MyFC 'experiment' isn't financially viable in Year Two.

More seriously, if you deny them the chance to pick the team, they can sue. Who is liable then? Just MyFC or EUFC too? No-one seems to have contemplated the legal and financial repurcusions that will inevitably flare up when the sheer scale of MyFC's 'smoke and mirrors' approach becomes apparent.

[Hempstead Gaz]

If the members vote to leave it to Liam, then those who voted against can sue those who voted for.

Just leave Ebbsfleet out of it!

[American FLEET FAN No1]

Originally Posted By: Chatham Gary

If the members vote to leave it to Liam, then those who voted against can sue those who voted for.
Just leave Ebbsfleet out of it!

They vote not to pick the team(if they are allowed to vote on that), those that joined to pick the team sue Myfc, so they can pick the team. Wouldn't they just be suing themselves?
I bet Willie is fireproof!

[.matty]

Originally Posted By: clowntown

More seriously, if you deny them the chance to pick the team, they can sue. Who is liable then? Just MyFC or EUFC too? No-one seems to have contemplated the legal and financial repurcusions that will inevitably flare up when the sheer scale of MyFC's 'smoke and mirrors' approach becomes apparent.

But would it really reach court? Anybody wishing to goto court would be trying to claim £35 back, who would risk the legal fees for this? Only an idiot. I very much doubt the CPS would consider it worth the courts time, let alone the Judge who would have to sit in on it.