I question for Arsenal/ England fans

[Eastside Urchin]

if they are good enough and want it enough they will get through

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: urchin_mentalist

if they are good enough and want it enough they will get through

and.....if the Holy Spirit..i mean the foreigner manager helps them!

[Eastside Urchin]

just watching an arsenal forum on arsenal tv and martin keown said this "when some of the first foreign players arrived at highbury i would be in the gym recovering from injury and all the english players would jump in their cars after training and go home.The foreign players would be in the gym with me trying to get in to peak physical shape"

that just about sums it up coach,our players have since the age of about 8 had their ar$es wiped for them,money thrown at their parents,the simple fact of the matter is that the foreign players want it more.Fair enough you get the odd story of an englsih player staying behind after training and smashing balls in the net but when it comes to foreign players they don't just f**k off after training to the pub or china whites they get stuck in to more training,this is where englands problems lie.

Look at our top players,wright phillips out with a bottle of JD stuck in his pants,rooney out whoring with grannies,lamps,terry involved in drunken rows with americans,joe cole getting chased round west london after being caught in bed with someones bitch.

Its easy to knock the foreign players but harder to actually realise our players are simply not dedicated enough,they want the money but don't want to live the life they should.

And theres our friend ashley "i don't need a dunkey coz i get an aids test weekly " cole.

Can no one else really see why england aren't the best side around???

 

 

 

 

 

 

And i haven't even started on rio,micah richards & the other idiots that are supposed to be our top players

[coach et 64]

The new generation of young players that are at the Academies have been educated in a more professional way.They don't drink,and do all that crap you mentioned.They deserve a chance ahead of the 150 poor foreigner players that are in England.And don't you worry you won't hear all those stories about Terry pissing on a pub floor etc,etc, Capello will send them home with a no return ticket....

[Eastside Urchin]

will believe it when i see it coach.

ashley cole was educated thay way and look whats happened to him

[coach et 64]

Asley Cole is not part of this younger generation.It was a Wenger mistake....he picked the wrong french left back!

[Eastside Urchin]

ashley cole is just a c**t

[coach et 64]

only because he left you for Chelsea.More money and a bigger club... anyway you had Gael Glichy,a talented youngster...shame he is another French

[Eastside Urchin]

not a shame for france.He is worth 5 ashley coles.

He is just a good a player without the attitude and bad discipline

[cider]

Coach i cannot see where you get the idea that these new kids on the block are any differenet than the ones that are breaking through now.Pro football is hard to get into but it is even harder to stay in it.The standard has gone through the roof with the big 4/5 clubs so if they cannot find good youngsters within their set up.Where else can they get them from? The only way is to look in other countries,except if you are in a certain London club where their is no limit to what you can spend on compensation when stealing the best players from other English clubs and breaking all the rules.This is what Arsenal,Liverpool,Tottenham,and most of the bigger lubs in England are doing.Is it a coincidence that all the dircters of Football at these clubs are Foreigners?Coach,the players are not currently available in this country that meet the standard and needs of our bigger clubs and they want success now not tommorrow.I am told that Man Utd will be keeping one out of last years Youth Cup runners up team.One out of 16-20 players.What does that tell you.

 

[coach et 64]

yeah and i'm gonna manage Hornchurch! 5 Asley Cole??feck me they gave you Gallas and money and you're still moaning!

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: cider

Coach i cannot see where you get the idea that these new kids on the block are any differenet than the ones that are breaking through now.Pro football is hard to get into but it is even harder to stay in it.The standard has gone through the roof with the big 4/5 clubs so if they cannot find good youngsters within their set up.Where else can they get them from? The only way is to look in other countries,except if you are in a certain London club where their is no limit to what you can spend on compensation when stealing the best players from other English clubs and breaking all the rules.This is what Arsenal,Liverpool,Tottenham,and most of the bigger lubs in England are doing.Is it a coincidence that all the dircters of Football at these clubs are Foreigners?Coach,the players are not currently available in this country that meet the standard and needs of our bigger clubs and they want success now not tommorrow.I am told that Man Utd will be keeping one out of last years Youth Cup runners up team.One out of 16-20 players.What does that tell you.

I might agree on the top 4....but what about the rest?sure they can have a look at those other 19 Man utd youth players and find a little gem that has been overlooked.Look at Manchester City...they have foreigners but Erikson still found a couple of good English youth team players.It's all about being brave enough to give them a chance,there is English talent out there.

[cider]

Would defo agree,just look at how many of Arsenals youngsters make their way at other clubs,however your point was why does Wenger not look for his young english players to come thorugh so we do not have to look abroad.How many did Mclaren use in the qualifyers from the England u/21 squad? Theirs your answer.How many are in their now.Young,agbonlahor,Bently,

[coach et 64]

Mc Laren didn't use many of them because he relied on some players that in the end let him down.Instead of looking for alternatives to his senior players,especially in friendlies,he opted for the "big names",too scared of leaving any of them out and he paid a price in the end.England were at their best when played a side that wasn't formed by the best players but by the ones that were functioning better as a balanced team.In other words that's what Capello is gonna do.He is looking for younger and hungrier players.Going back to Wenger,i just think it is a shame that he hasn't got an English player in his starting line up,that's all.It says everything....I would like to know which language they speak in their changing rooms...i guess is french

[T.A.F.K.A.M 9]

no only english is allowed in the dressing room

[cider]

My question would then be what english players, that may be available to purchase,could Wenger buy that would get into Arsnals starting eleven?

[coach et 64]

Originally Posted By: cider

My question would then be what english players, that may be available to purchase,could Wenger buy that would get into Arsnals starting eleven?

Peter Crouch,Jermain Defoe,kieron Dyer,Owen Hargreaves,Michael Carrick,Jermain Jenas,Ledley King,Michael Owen,Paul Robinson,Alan Smith,Shaun Wright Phillips,Luke Young,David Bentley,Agbonlahor,Wayne Bridge,Steve Downing,Aron Lennon,Reo-Coker,Nicky Butt,James Milner,Darren Bent,Daniel Sturridge,Glen Johnson,nicky Shorey,Steve Sidwell,Leighton Baines.......and yes ASHLEY COLE!

[T.A.F.K.A.M 9]

I'd take Rooney and Gerrard (never gonna happen)

[coach et 64]

Arsenal has 5 class players(Fabregas,Rosicky,Gallas,Adebayor,Van Persie and Gilberto 2 years ago)the rest are youngsters and foreigner players that are either not regulars in their national sides, like Flamini,Glichy,Almunia,or play for 2nd rate nations like Hleb(belarus)Kolo Toure,Eboue(Ivory Coast)Senderos(Switzerland).What people don't understand is thanks to Wenger ability to develop these players that Arsenal have been one of the top 2 sides in the last 10 years.Not many people will admit it but is the coach work and his football philosophy that has allowed Arsenal to be the side that everybody enjoys watching playing.A part them 5 the rest are not really exiciting foreign players and are not any better than the English players i mentioned before.It's Wenger that makes them play in a certain way.

[GAFFA1]

Originally Posted By: The_Monk

Gaffa u sum up most spurs fan a Fukking Prick, what a sh@T post i am big arsenal and england fan, arsenal play gr8 football which england r not capable of at the moment but unfortunatly i still love them.

And i was pleased for Jenas scoring the other night would u be pleased when Theo starts scoring for england doubt it cos you r a dumb yid!!!

listen here u cocck if its shiit dont read it u arsee wipe, know feck off to the whole u came out of, spurs are on there way to wembley ha ha ha