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Uncle Urchin

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is a lot of money for a training ground and probably about 800 quid a week above the commercial rate for such a facility...now I will be happy to apologise if I am wrong but I am most surprised that no one on here has asked the obvious questions regarding this part of the completion arrangements....

 

why is the MyFc members money being used to subsidise FL when they have no financial interest in FL...?

 

is the overpayment a hidden agenda to recompense the outstanding directors loans...?

 

are the existing directors loans being taken off the balance sheet of EUFCL...?

 

in anticipation and with many thanks from a fully paid member... laugh

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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
(1000) is a lot of money for a training ground and probably about 800 quid a week above the commercial rate for such a facility

Not being as familiar as you with the English, or Kentish, real estate market, I would be much obliged to see the facts underlying this claim. Any info whatsoever as regards Gravesham realty prices would inject a nice dose of objectivity into this discussion.

It's my understanding that the "training ground" leased here encompasses substantially more than just a pitch, and is several acres large and also includes locker room and training facilities. Perhaps things are cheaper in Kent than in the US (although all economic indicators seem to suggest otherwise), but it doesn't seem like an outrageous price to me. I'd be happy to be disabused of my naivete, though. Do you have any realty websites you could point me to or any facts you could share that would help?

Further, this cost includes the management of the training ground and facilities, including running the Fleet Leisure aspect of the ground. Surely, that adds some value as well. But again, I'd joyfully re-evaluate if presented with some facts -- from independent, preferably web-based, sources -- that support your view that this is too much money.
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin


answer the questions...it is important.....


Ah, but you know as well as we do that we don't know the answers.

Nice carrot to dangle, Unc, but as the 'Sue Barker' of this operation (ie. you're asking the questions and you very likely could have a wild stab at the answers), suppose you answer your own questions?
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Originally Posted By: Friejose
Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
(1000) is a lot of money for a training ground and probably about 800 quid a week above the commercial rate for such a facility

Not being as familiar as you with the English, or Kentish, real estate market, I would be much obliged to see the facts underlying this claim. Any info whatsoever as regards Gravesham realty prices would inject a nice dose of objectivity into this discussion.

It's my understanding that the "training ground" leased here encompasses substantially more than just a pitch, and is several acres large and also includes locker room and training facilities. Perhaps things are cheaper in Kent than in the US (although all economic indicators seem to suggest otherwise), but it doesn't seem like an outrageous price to me. I'd be happy to be disabused of my naivete, though. Do you have any realty websites you could point me to or any facts you could share that would help?

Further, this cost includes the management of the training ground and facilities, including running the Fleet Leisure aspect of the ground. Surely, that adds some value as well. But again, I'd joyfully re-evaluate if presented with some facts -- from independent, preferably web-based, sources -- that support your view that this is too much money.


Well for one thing, it's £48000 a year more than we are paying now for the same facilities.

That's £48000 that cant be spent on the team
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(1000) is a lot of money for a training ground and probably about 800 quid a week above the commercial rate for such a facility

Not being as familiar as you with the English, or Kentish, real estate market, I would be much obliged to see the facts underlying this claim. Any info whatsoever as regards Gravesham realty prices would inject a nice dose of objectivity into this discussion.

It's my understanding that the "training ground" leased here encompasses substantially more than just a pitch, and is several acres large and also includes locker room and training facilities. Perhaps things are cheaper in Kent than in the US (although all economic indicators seem to suggest otherwise), but it doesn't seem like an outrageous price to me. I'd be happy to be disabused of my naivete, though. Do you have any realty websites you could point me to or any facts you could share that would help?

Further, this cost includes the management of the training ground and facilities, including running the Fleet Leisure aspect of the ground. Surely, that adds some value as well. But again, I'd joyfully re-evaluate if presented with some facts -- from independent, preferably web-based, sources -- that support your view that this is too much money.


any credibility you had with me has just gone out of the window josh...think before you post..

oh and by the way...we pay 75 quid a week for a council owned floodlit training ground and we still complain.... laugh

as you lawyers say...5th ammendment perhaps... grin



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Originally Posted By: waggamick

My interpretation is that it is a strategy designed to put off sale of the land for other purposes.
More insurance than rent.


and you talk a load of bollox sometimes as well wagga wagga...its council land..... grin

it cannot be sold without a star chamber brown bag carve up...

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Why can't the council sell the land?


can't go there mate as its toooooooooooo political and there really is no answer...the thames gateway is a potentially open abramovich size chequebook and every fcker is trying to get into the act...(including me I may add so no complaints there) shocked

farrago is a good word... grin

I'm at wentworth west by the way on tuesday next.... yay
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nice first post from the outgoing chairman


Ah, actually, that was the former and once again incoming chairman replacing the outgoing chairman until such time as a new chairman is appointed.

Just to clarify, like...


thank you...I think I have got it.... laugh
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Originally Posted By: Friejose
Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin
(1000) is a lot of money for a training ground and probably about 800 quid a week above the commercial rate for such a facility

Not being as familiar as you with the English, or Kentish, real estate market, I would be much obliged to see the facts underlying this claim. Any info whatsoever as regards Gravesham realty prices would inject a nice dose of objectivity into this discussion.

It's my understanding that the "training ground" leased here encompasses substantially more than just a pitch, and is several acres large and also includes locker room and training facilities. Perhaps things are cheaper in Kent than in the US (although all economic indicators seem to suggest otherwise), but it doesn't seem like an outrageous price to me. I'd be happy to be disabused of my naivete, though. Do you have any realty websites you could point me to or any facts you could share that would help?

Further, this cost includes the management of the training ground and facilities, including running the Fleet Leisure aspect of the ground. Surely, that adds some value as well. But again, I'd joyfully re-evaluate if presented with some facts -- from independent, preferably web-based, sources -- that support your view that this is too much money.


Well for one thing, it's £48000 a year more than we are paying now for the same facilities.

That's £48000 that cant be spent on the team


God I think the penny has begun to drop!

While your on about the cost of using Fleet Leisure, what about the other £40 odd grand to pay for a consultant to sort out the new stadium?

Dare I suggest that very same consultant could possibly (or even allegedly) be one of Botley's existing motley crew of directors???
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