the truth PLEASE

[Guest]

Great answers ...so honest...so open.

 

So I now know that the Shareholders own the shares. Well blow me down, I add to my education every day.

 

There is no legal requirement for a PAID Chief Executive. In this new era of openness and honesty I'm sure that we will be told how much he has paid himself for such an outstanding performance. Alternatively, now he knows that it's not a legal requirement he might repay what's been paid.

 

Great its not to be Southend. I wish I had been clever enough to read what's going to happen in 4+ years time. Maybe I can borrow your crystal ball for when I pick my lottery numbers. The crux of this issue remains...Why will Stadia Management entertain the ongoing prospect of 600 fans (if we're lucky), watching our team in a £8 million stadium.

 

How surprising you don't like this forum....I guess this comment is about as honest and straightforward as your reply that the Shareholders own the share!!

 

Having watched deteriorating team performances this year, due in no way to playing staff management , I conclude that its a pity the Chief Exec is not paid by results.... he would owe us all a small fortune.

[Simon BTFC]

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So I now know that the Shareholders own the shares.

Well I'm prepared to admit that I own some shares. I'm not going to tell you how many because I am not prepared to discuss my private financial affairs with an anonymous poster on a public forum. I rather suspect that most people are the same - whether they own shares in BTFC or not they don't like having their finances discussed in public. I will, however, be at Hendon on thursday. Buy me a pint and I'll tell you <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[Ryan.c]

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Great answers ...so honest...so open.

Well you asked the bloody questions or did you? Have I just imagined it all? So let me get this right. The only reason Stadia Management have hooked up with Billericay Town is so that they can use us to build a brand new stadium. Once we're in, Stadia Management turn round and say "sorry chaps your just not making the money we expected". Whilst in the meantime Stadia and Southend Utd are hatching a devilish plot to oust BTFC and hey presto, Southend have a new stadium and we are left homeless!

 

Stadia Management are no mugs. I think they might have done thier homework before commiting to this, don't you? I never said I didn't like this forum, it's [censored] stirring twats like you I don't like. Your arguement may have more credibility if you could actually spell your name, and you know where you can stick your crystal ball!!

 

 

[Simon BTFC]

And he ignores the salient fact that Stadia won't own the stadium anyway. The site will be leased from Bas council by a company jointly owned by US and Stadia. Changing the team will not increase Stadia's profits because all the football monies will go to BTFC.

 

Anybody else find it highly ironic that somebody who bangs on about "openess and honesty" hides behind an anonymous moniker.

[Guest]

Ryan C/Simon etc,

 

There's no doubt that you guys and a number of other posters to this forum are true loyal/dedicated supporters - the kind we could do with more of. I wish was able to show your committment to the club but I can't and here's my problem;

 

1 - I am simply not enjoying watching the football being played at new lodge anymore. I don't like Calders tatics, I can't understand why we don't use subs and I can't believe that Rantala/Fewings were not good enough to play, were are to defensive etc etc.

 

2 - I find the attitude of Rod Moore unacceptable, first he wants to move us to Basildon - no consultation with the fans.

Then we see the dismantling of a promising young team (I can accept some housekeeping but not Carthy/Essendoh/Williams/Douglas/Fewings/Moore/Rantala/M Graham/Kerrigan - thats nine first team players leaving) surely gross mismanagement here. He won't be open and honest with the fans - no fans forum, no questions answered in the program. He slags the fans off in the paper for not turning up to a midweek game.

 

The mans a walking PR disaster - if he was open and honest about the situation, a tried to rally some support among the fans, then we would have a better idea of how the club was moving forward and how we all could help.

 

Myself and my dad have supported this team through thick and thin, we were going to all the home and away game in the seventies and eighties but have now lost interest.

 

I'm not walking away from the club BUT I'm not prepared to support a Chairman who has so little regard and respect for the fans of this football club.

 

By all means please try and convince my otherwise but I am totally disillusioned with this situation. I can't see a way out of this situation other than a fresh injection of funds and/or a new chairman but I think we all know this won't happen - just like the move to gloucester park will fade away.

 

PS Mr Harry is my nickname - sorry if anyone has a problem with this - I use it all the time.

[Guest]

Andy, thank you for your comments about future finances of the club,its nice to be informed that the club will survive this season and be in a healthy position for next season, but why doesnt the Chairman make a similar statement to stop all the rumours?

[Guest]

Your loyalty is admirable but misplaced and ultimately damaging. By supporting the existing regime you are prolonging their control and an increasingly desperate and deteriorating financial situation. The worse that this gets , the less chance their is of a White Knight coming in to save BTFC.

 

In its long existence the Club has never been so close to going out of business. Bear in mind that it is now owned by a limited company and if that company goes into liquidation we will be faced with the same situation as Aldershot, ie dropping down to who knows what division and having to start again.

 

Why don't you ask the Chairman to meet with you and a couple of others and give you the honest and full lowdown on the debt situation of the Club. It is an absolute fact that there are streams of outstanding creditors who cannot be paid. It only takes one of them to obtain a winding up order against the club and we will be in the situation I outlined above. Don't take my word for it, ask a qualified accountant to confirm.

 

I stand by the assessment of the Stadia Management situation although the probability is that the scheme will never get off the ground. It is increasingly likely planning permission will be refused but even if it is not BTFC will risk collapse in the lengthy interim period which will inevitably follow.

 

We all share the same objective ie securing the long term future of the Club. Although your support is noble it is the most damaging in the longer term. The best thing you can do for the Club is to help dismantle the Chairman's Republican Guards before they become suicide squads.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

And the reason people write under anonymous names is that the Chairman is a very unpleasant man who holds grudges and doesn't give a s**t about the fans of this football club.

 

It's a shame people are leaving, but I am not surprised.

[Guest]

All members were informed of this years ago when a group of people made up of youth and ladies teams voted for this regime, they should have like the rest of us seen the writing on the wall then, where are all these Rod Moores fans now ??

[GazzaBTFC]

To be honest, I think this is all very damaging to the club and it is going to take a very big man to heal the rift between Club and Supporters.

 

I'm not to sure that Rod is the man and it doesn't help that he is taking on a siege mentality (for obvious reasons). With some supporters not having the balls to put their names up on the board, can you blame the management to give us short shrift and no answers. If someone who remains nameless, comes on here and slags off everything that is said to him, then what do we expect. We lose the arguement. And as far as the management is concerned, we supporters all tied with that brush. It just takes one coward to lose our credibility.

 

One the other hand I have agreed with a lot that has been said for and against the chairman, manager and the team. There has been a massive [****!!****] up here and someone is to blame. Not the supporters, 'cos it is the peoples right to do what they want with their money and if the team is, in their opinion, not performing, they have that right to not come down and watch the team or support the club. The [****!!****] up lies with the management and the running of the club. the promoting of the club to local business and the handling of the Stadium deal. Answers need to be asked (painful ones) and answered (truthfully).

 

I would like to mention those of the "lost" supporters that call 'emselves "true" supporters. I don't go to every game but watch as many as I can. I do have a life, as I am sure that many of you all do and if there is something else happening of a Saturday (or there is an away game that I do not fancy - which is a few, I'd admit), I don't go. lets face it, it's a game and family come first but that is a very rare occurrence and I manage to juggle chores, family commitments, girlfriend's (when I have one - and that is another reason I find the anonymous tag cowardly and beyond contempt) with my football. I get there whenever I can. Same with our Norwiegan friends. They get here when they can and I consider them no less loyal than me or Ryan C and the others that turn up to as many or all the games, they can. What really sticks in my craw is that some F**king, stupid, cowardly, d**khead come's on here and spurts off under the anonymous tag, spouting that it is his club and something should be done about Rod Moore and Gary Calder and this person and that person. Funny, you know their names but they don't know yours. Really brave of you that one. Stand up and be a bloody man for christs sake or don't come on here at all. We would all take your opinion a bit more seriously instead of consider you to be some trouble maker who revels in stirring up trouble. Some of you have chosen to not go to the games and voted with your feet. Good luck to you, you have made your choice but if you still want to consider it your club, put a name down.

[Guest]

WELL SAID GAZZA...AGREE ENTIRELY..I too have family but I still, and will still go to as many games as I can get to.

It really does not hurt to put a name on a posting - and afterall surely it is THE TEAM we are supporting at the end of the day...

Let's rumble on the happy bus to BEDFORD....

 

[Andy Walsh]

A lot of mindless idiots post on this site anonymously, but it is not that important that they don't put their name. It is still an opinion from a probable Ricay fan. I put my name on this site, but no one knows who I am especially Rod Moore and the management. Whether someone puts their name or not, if people don't know who they are, how can you take someone's opinion more seriously just because they put their name. Just because someone writes anonymously doesn't mean you can't take their opinion seriously. Writing anonymously allows someone people to say what they really think, which is what this forum is about.

 

www.billericaytownfc.20m.com

[Guest]

Why is a name so important. The important things are the issues and questions I raise. I'm just as loyal as any of you and although I won't be at Bedford, I will be at New Lodge for the next home game. If you must have a name, why not

 

Zorro

 

 

[pabird]

But in between times Simon you watch over a club with a bigger natural crowd than almost any other senior Essex side

Therefore why is it that with better than reasonable gate money and sponsors as good as most other sides you continue to manage substantial mid-term loss figures so bad you are required to release any player on half decent wages

I/We will always chide and have knock-a-bout jokes with rivals but no malice

This is not the first time for your club

As I have said before your club turned down offers to run the club from people prepared to put money in and to act unpaid in executive management of the club

It looks sort of odd shall we say??

 

 

[Guest]

this is all excellent stuff chaps, don't understand the furor about anonymous postings though...most of the registered ones are micky mouse names anyway,

 

as to the future shenanigins of the Clubs Directors and Management, well, as an objective observer the whole thing seems a bit flaky to me.

team being broken up.

new stadia.

once all that sort of talk starts and the 'artists impressions' appear in the papers...the games up.

can anyone really believe that an Investment Company will spend 8m on a new stadium for 300 people to go to......

give me a break...

Sarfend...well there's a thing, no secret that the existing site would make a luverley retail park...outline planning as well it seems, has anyone thought about a merging of the club with Southend once the new stadium is built and losing money,

 

end result...no more 'ricay and a nice new home for the seagulls....great stuff, good income stream for the stadia developers as well, that'll keep their shareholders happy.......nice few quid for old ronnie as well no doubt, thats a good motivation to keep things tight and tidy for a year or two .....always look for the profit boys...there always lies the answer....!

[ray bellici]

What's in a name? I do not know,to look at, any of the posters on this site, Anonymous doesn't bother me. I think the majority of posters are hiding behind a moniker (me included). At the AGM meeting pre-season where the Stadia plans were officially unveiled, the atmosphere was one of aggression from the top table (not the supporters club, I hasten to add), Moore, Calder and Borg were replying to the VERY FEW questions with a threatening manner as if anything untoward would be sorted outside. This seemed to have the desired effect as almost everyone went schtum. So here we can all rant and rave and not have to worry about them sending the heavy boys round.

[Guest]

Hold on Gazza, Zorro has never criticised Gary Calder. Sure different supporters have differing opinions as to his tactics but lets examine the facts.

 

Gary has shown that given the resources, he is capable of producing a team capable of challenging for top honours. As I understand it Gary and /or his son raised the money to pay players who hadn't been paid wages for weeks. What I would like to know is how often the Chairman and Chief Executive has foregone his pay?

 

As far as I'm concerned Gary would not be a bad candidate to take over the Club.

 

He has shown loyalty in the face of extreme provocation from his boss; he has put his hand in his pocket to try to help; and I suspect he has a far more engaging attitude and personality to attract vital sponsorships.

 

The man in the job screwed up trying to run the Jewels Restaurant and he's making even more of a [****!!****] up at BTFC.

[Guest]

disagee with that. there were many questions asked and and at one point things got very heated. agree that the chairman is not the best advert for our club, is 2 highly strung, but he does actualy do a lot for the club.

[pc27]

Everyone is saying 'go and ask the chairman your questions and he will give you answers'

I think the point is that we shouldnt have to ask the chairman. As part of his role, he should be informing us of the situation at the club, we shouldnt have to go in search of the questions.

As for the chairman answering our questions in the gazette this week - is this the same coloumn written by his son!

 

while we are on the subject of user names:

pc27 = Paul Cusack

[Guest]

Not wise as you will get slagged off, I should know.

 

If you look at my early postings they were all positive, critical but positive.

 

The language used against me and the insults I recieved drove me to be very negative about ricay.

 

I used to visit the club regularly and was new in the area trying to decide where I should lay my hat. The arrogance of your chairman, the rudness of your supporters and the abuse I took decided for me that the place to be was Park Lane I have never looked back.

 

I do not take pleasure in your present plight, but where were you all when I was asking questions and get slagged og by the likes of Simon etc.