Apolgies on the performance today

[Graham S]

My own that is, when I roundly, loudly & foully abused the 4th official for disallowing our "equalizer" at the death.

 

If anyone in the Centre Stand, or close by was offended by the profanities hurled in the official's direction, I can only apologize for indulging my need to let off steam via creative obscenity in a part of the ground where there's likely to be family groups around.

 

We didn't deserve to lose did we? Surely not on the basis of the spirit we showed after York apparently killed the game off with that soft 2nd goal. As for the linesman's decision, it never occurred to me we might be offside, but I spoke to 2 people who said it was - but that it was very harsh justice given our overall performance.

 

Graham S

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: Graham S

We didn't deserve to lose did we? Surely not on the basis of the spirit we showed after York apparently killed the game off with that soft 2nd goal. As for the linesman's decision, it never occurred to me we might be offside, but I spoke to 2 people who said it was - but that it was very harsh justice given our overall performance.
Graham S

We didn't deserve anything today, mind you York didn't either.
Other than Panther and Sodge for York and McPhee and Purcell for us I didn't see too many players who did anything to warrant a win bonus.

[Hirsty]

You don't need to apologise at all !!...we all do it on occasions.

 

Nice to see people having a passion for the cause !

 

I give credit to Sodje, he didn't milk the celebration of his goal, and had the decency to hit the post ( rather than score himself !) for their second goal !!!

 

Can the MyFC vote him back in please ?

 

Did I hear correctly ? was the crowd 933 ??

 

Awaits bar takings stats !!!

 

Cheers,

 

[Hempstead Gaz]

Agreed Slarti - I have posted a fuller "beef" on another thread.

[Hirsty]

You should go more often CG....then you could really moan !!

 

See you New Year's Day.........

 

 

Cheers,

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Graham S

We didn't deserve to lose did we?

Not on the basis of the titanic final 15 minutes. Shame we did deserve to lose on the first 75.

[Harry J Allstars]

Originally Posted By: Hirsty

Awaits bar takings stats !!!

I did get Ukrainian Phil in there so the takings should be pretty good.

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Harry J Allstars

I did get Ukrainian Phil in there so the takings should be pretty good.

I bet he was really enjoying himself what with the wonderful weather to add to the local scenery...

[DA11]

Not meaning to sound anti board. But Duncans programme comment today said we have made continual improvement on and off the pitch after the last few years in fulltime football. I agree with on the field improvement but surely if the off the field improvement has been that good why are we so much in debt? I just thought it was a strange thing to say with virtually everyone knowing the current financial situation.

[Slartibartfast]

Didn't he say that we had improved in every area other than getting people in through the turnstiles.

If the people of Gravesham wanted a football team there would be no debt.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Didn't he say that we had improved in every area other than getting people in through the turnstiles.
If the people of Gravesham wanted a football team there would be no debt.

I recall you once saying sbf that all clubs should cut their cloth according to their means....we all want more fans and more success....but we cannot have it according to our means without a paymaster...you have always been against such benefactors....

or have you now changed your mind...

[DA11]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Didn't he say that we had improved in every area other than getting people in through the turnstiles.
If the people of Gravesham wanted a football team there would be no debt.

That was a different sentence. I still think as a club we have been complacent at times when attracting new or stay away fans. I'm not criticising them as there is only so much that a small group of people can do.

[PatMan]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Didn't he say that we had improved in every area other than getting people in through the turnstiles.
If the people of Gravesham wanted a football team there would be no debt.

Fleet are hundreds of thousands in debt - could this really have been reversed by a couple of hundred extra fans each game?

[Slartibartfast]

No I haven't UU.

 

Many of us on this forum where extremely worried when we went full-time but accepted assurances that the club could afford it.

It now seems that going full-time was based on the premise that if a decent product was put before the public they would turn up to support it, last season proved that to be a false assumption.

The board have always stated that their ambition is to take the club into the league and it seems they have gambled on attendances to achieve that.

If we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it, if that means dropping down a league or two that is fine by me, if it means playing Hornchurch, Margate and Folkestone then thats fine too.

All clubs should play at their rightful level and whether its one benefactor or twentyfive thousand I don't really want them at my club.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

No I haven't UU.

Many of us on this forum where extremely worried when we went full-time but accepted assurances that the club could afford it.
It now seems that going full-time was based on the premise that if a decent product was put before the public they would turn up to support it, last season proved that to be a false assumption.
The board have always stated that their ambition is to take the club into the league and it seems they have gambled on attendances to achieve that.
If we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it, if that means dropping down a league or two that is fine by me, if it means playing Hornchurch, Margate and Folkestone then thats fine too.
All clubs should play at their rightful level and whether its one benefactor or twentyfive thousand I don't really want them at my club.

well then get used to the ryman 1st division leagues as thats the level that an average of 700 fans will give you without some idiot putting money into the club...(yes irony dear boy but knowledgeable irony)

or is it okay for your lot to run up massive bills but not anyone else....600k and counting...?

give it a rest slarti....your loyalty is commendable but your double standards are most transparent...

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

No I haven't UU.

Many of us on this forum where extremely worried when we went full-time but accepted assurances that the club could afford it.
It now seems that going full-time was based on the premise that if a decent product was put before the public they would turn up to support it, last season proved that to be a false assumption.
The board have always stated that their ambition is to take the club into the league and it seems they have gambled on attendances to achieve that.
If we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it, if that means dropping down a league or two that is fine by me, if it means playing Hornchurch, Margate and Folkestone then thats fine too.
All clubs should play at their rightful level and whether its one benefactor or twentyfive thousand I don't really want them at my club.

well then get used to the ryman 1st division leagues as thats the level that an average of 700 fans will give you without some idiot putting money into the club...(yes irony dear boy but knowledgeable irony)

or is it okay for your lot to run up massive bills but not anyone else....600k and counting...?

give it a rest slarti....your loyalty is commendable but your double standards are most transparent...

If you can't read yourself UU maye you should ask someone to explain what the squiggles mean.

What double standards are you talking about? I never said it was ok for anyone to run up bills I said that if we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it and we should play at our rightful level.
You seem to struggle with numbers as well, an average of 700 fans in the Ryman 1st division??? Your lot are in the Rymans Premier aren't they, haven't you been to any matches this season? you are struggling to get 350, still never let the truth get in the way of a good lie eh UU?
700 fans would equate to a Conference South team although to be honest if we went down we would be back to 500 fans.
We will soon find out if you are right about our debt being 600k and rising though won't we.
I don't know what our debt is anymore than you do UU but the auditors who are carrying out DD at the moment will know. MyFC chose us because of the manageable level of debt if you are right we will fail DD because we told porkies about the level of debt and you will be proved right if we don't fail it won't prove anything we didn't already know about you.

[Stu M]

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

well then get used to the ryman 1st division leagues as thats the level that an average of 700 fans will give you

Welling are doing OK for themselves then, two divisions above where they should be for the last several seasons.

[jc]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Many of us on this forum where extremely worried when we went full-time but accepted assurances that the club could afford it.
It now seems that going full-time was based on the premise that if a decent product was put before the public they would turn up to support it, last season proved that to be a false assumption.
The board have always stated that their ambition is to take the club into the league and it seems they have gambled on attendances to achieve that.
If we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it, if that means dropping down a league or two that is fine by me, if it means playing Hornchurch, Margate and Folkestone then thats fine too.
All clubs should play at their rightful level and whether its one benefactor or twentyfive thousand I don't really want them at my club.

Spot on as usual Slarti - a superb post. For me, the enjoyment in going to games, win or lose, overrides the apparent (and worrying) obsession with needing to improve every season. The truth is that a club our size has done fantastically well to reach the Conference and stay there (and, after the first season, comfortably so) for several seasons, and it feels too much importance is being placed on achieving League status - it would be nice, of course, but shouldn't be at all costs.

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

Originally Posted By: Uncle Urchin

Originally Posted By: Slartibartfast

No I haven't UU.

Many of us on this forum where extremely worried when we went full-time but accepted assurances that the club could afford it.
It now seems that going full-time was based on the premise that if a decent product was put before the public they would turn up to support it, last season proved that to be a false assumption.
The board have always stated that their ambition is to take the club into the league and it seems they have gambled on attendances to achieve that.
If we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it, if that means dropping down a league or two that is fine by me, if it means playing Hornchurch, Margate and Folkestone then thats fine too.
All clubs should play at their rightful level and whether its one benefactor or twentyfive thousand I don't really want them at my club.

well then get used to the ryman 1st division leagues as thats the level that an average of 700 fans will give you without some idiot putting money into the club...(yes irony dear boy but knowledgeable irony)

or is it okay for your lot to run up massive bills but not anyone else....600k and counting...?

give it a rest slarti....your loyalty is commendable but your double standards are most transparent...

If you can't read yourself UU maye you should ask someone to explain what the squiggles mean.

What double standards are you talking about? I never said it was ok for anyone to run up bills I said that if we can't afford full-time football we shouldn't have it and we should play at our rightful level.
You seem to struggle with numbers as well, an average of 700 fans in the Ryman 1st division??? Your lot are in the Rymans Premier aren't they, haven't you been to any matches this season? you are struggling to get 350, still never let the truth get in the way of a good lie eh UU?
700 fans would equate to a Conference South team although to be honest if we went down we would be back to 500 fans.
We will soon find out if you are right about our debt being 600k and rising though won't we.
I don't know what our debt is anymore than you do UU but the auditors who are carrying out DD at the moment will know. MyFC chose us because of the manageable level of debt if you are right we will fail DD because we told porkies about the level of debt and you will be proved right if we don't fail it won't prove anything we didn't already know about you.

bit of a knee jerk rant there slarti old boy...fact is that whatever you do or do not agree with.... your football club has been subsidised by the directors for years and playing at a false level (have I heard that one before )...and thats why you have such large debts....no doubt most of the debt relates to bank funding which the revilled owners will have guaranteed....

as I said...700 fans a week is just enough to fund a self sustaining budget in the ryman one (if you want to compete for promotion)....my guess is that your 7/8 grand a week wage bill is being funded by at least 2 grand from the directors and I will not be far wrong...

we at Hx have averaged circa 500 so far this season and it is nowhere near enough to fund our attempt at the play offs so the directors fund the deficit...yes slarti...we all have the hated sugar daddy but some stick their heads in the sand and take the moral high ground in denial .....or they think they do and most that think they do have little or no understanding of NL finances...

now be a good chappy and cut out the personal stuff....its blatantly transparent that you seek to cut off my comments at every turn but this is not about you and I slarti...its about a football club in peril and not only should you refrain from attempting to undermine my views (which many others amongst you want to hear) but you should also think on yourself......as for what we think about me...(nice desperate use of mates syndrome there slarti) you do not know me...have never met me....know nothing of my family or my life and therefore are not really in a position to comment... thee that is as well as we

your slip is showing slarti and does you much credit...so calm down and don't worry about me on this forum..worry about your club...

thanx

[Uncle Urchin]

Originally Posted By: jc

Spot on as usual Slarti - a superb post. For me, the enjoyment in going to games, win or lose, overrides the apparent (and worrying) obsession with needing to improve every season. The truth is that a club our size has done fantastically well to reach the Conference and stay there (and, after the first season, comfortably so) for several seasons, and it feels too much importance is being placed on achieving League status - it would be nice, of course, but shouldn't be at all costs.

all very noble jc but of course it has been at a cost as you stuck your heads in the sand.....600k's worth of debt...